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Red_Dragon
y ddraig goch ddyry gychwyn

Location: Redneck Nation 
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Sep 13, 2008 - 2:13pm |
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom wrote: love him!
Should CB be jealous?
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom

Location: Seattle Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Sep 13, 2008 - 2:11pm |
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What John Barrowman knows about men...
John Barrowman, the openly gay star of "Torchwood" and many major stage musicals, has written the essay "What I Know About Men" for the UK's The Ovserver newspaper. I just love it. I want every repressed person in this world to read this and see what it is like when someone just speaks their truth and is so comfortable in their own skin. It's really something to stive for.
I was especially touched by this section about growing up gay. So many of us can relate: When I was growing up, homosexuality was like a curse. This was midwest America in the Eighties, so I couldn't exactly make it a known thing. But I never doubted my sexuality. Even as a child, I knew I was different. I would look at a dirty magazine and I would feel drawn to the guy rather than the girl. His bits were more interesting than hers. It would make me feel warm and tingly. After gym class, I'd secretly peek at the other boys in the shower when I knew that I shouldn't. I was nine or 10 and I didn't know what being gay meant. Later, I made sure I was good at sports and I worked out so they couldn't call me a wimp. I had to copy the others to fit in and avoid being bullied; I'd date girls, dance with them, go for dinner but I used to panic when I was on her doorstop and I'd have to kiss her and feel her up. This part was interesting. It's something every person who favors "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" should read: I get loads of letters from soldiers in Iraq. Mostly they say thanks for making their sexuality acceptable but a lot tell me when they come home they are going to come out. I'm proud to represent my community and help these guys if I can. And finally, John writes about being famous and being gay: Some celebrities do cash in on being gay. I have and I haven't. Part of my success is down to my honesty in that department but I also like cars, mechanical things, and sports. I exist on that end of the gay community. Gay men aren't all the same. I can be camp but that's just me acting. The biggest homophobes in Hollywood are the gay guys themselves. I reckon loads of Hollywood actors are gay, we don't know which ones. I guess the industry should be easier for gay men to succeed in, but I honestly don't know. When a straight gay man plays a gay man they get an Oscar. I just play me. If I am looked upon as a role model for young, gay men and women then so be it. I will never be negative about my sexuality. love him!
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samiyam
Authentic Fake

Location: Inner Outlands 
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Aug 28, 2008 - 12:16pm |
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Bob Reinhold from St. Louis, Missouri, writes:Dear Bishop Spong, If the point of the Christian faith is for people to be whole, what does that mean? Can people be whole and still be against gays and lesbians? Can people be whole while distancing themselves from poverty and the poor? ~~~~~~~~ Dear Bob, Your questions get to the heart of my understanding of the Christian gospels. When I use the word "whole," I am trying to put substance into the fourth gospel's definition of Jesus' purpose, "I have come that you might have life and have it abundantly." My thinking is informed by the struggle to survive that I believe is implanted in every living thing but that comes into self-consciousness and choice only in human beings. Plants turn to the sunlight, conscious animals respond to a threat to their survival with the instinct of fight or flight, but self-conscious creatures install survival as their highest value and thus become overtly self-centered. If survival is my primary goal, I judge every person and every deed by the effect that person or deed has on my ability to survive, so I engage in the constant act of enhancing my survival ability by diminishing that of others. The self-centered nature of human life was in early Christian history understood as the product of "the fall" from our original perfection and was called "original sin." So long as my primary agenda is survival, I cannot be whole. I am not free. I am not able to live for others, to love beyond my boundaries or to discover the freedom just to be. So, in order to become human, in order to become whole, human life must transcend its survival mentality. Wholeness is thus a synonym for being fully human, which I define as transcending survival in the cause of being. With that definition I find it impossible to combine wholeness with any other human emotion that is "against," to use your word, the "being" of another. I regard "being" to be a description of the "givens" of a person's life, such as race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation. The whole person cannot be against the being of homosexual beings, but the whole person can oppose any behavior pattern of either homosexual persons or heterosexual persons that diminishes the life of another, which seems to me to include any forced sexual act, all promiscuity, pimping, prostitution, any act of child abuse, etc. I see no evidence that suggests that the proclivity to diminish another through sexual behavior is any more prevalent in homosexual persons than it is in heterosexual people. This is an act of personal decision making. When you move to the issue of distancing yourself from poverty and the poor, personal decision making is joined with corporate action of both the state and larger communities. I do not see how an individual can make work on poverty successful without the action of the state other than as a witness in the public arena raising consciousness and by the act of simplifying your own personal lifestyle. A better leveling of the society between the rich and the poor can be accomplished by taxation politics, by which I mean graduated income taxes, inheritance taxes and, to a much lesser degree, taxes on consumption, though that is the most regressive tax of all. Yet a government that taxes too heavily destroys initiative and the entrepreneurial talent that builds wealth for all. So a balance must be found. In recent years, our society has widened the gap between wealth and poverty to dangerous proportions. We have expanded the percentage of the tax on the income of the poor and the middle class while lowering the percentage of tax on the income paid by the wealthy. We have expanded the multiple between the CEO's salary and a worker's salary by some 5000% in the last 20 years. This gap widened during the eight years of President Clinton and galloped out of all boundaries during the eight years of President George Bush. An aroused populace is one way to address this issue. Self interest also requires that the economic and political system of a nation must serve the vested interest of all the people if it wants to survive. I do not believe that any nation or even the stability of the world will survive if half of its people are starving when the other half are dieting. So on this issue, personal and corporate action must coalesce. Thank you for your question. - John Shelby Spong
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rosedraws
hearing

Location: close to the edge Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 19, 2008 - 2:43pm |
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom wrote: Interesting. I was wondering about that. Good explanations there. Especially the whole, "we don't have time for it all anyway" explanation.
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out_to_lunch
I wan a pay-eeza

Location: Philly by way of CT Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 19, 2008 - 1:34pm |
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom wrote:In Beijing Olympics, only 10 openly gay athletes Of the 10,708 athletes who will march into Beijing’s Bird’s Nest Olympic stadium on Friday, Outsports is aware of only 10 who are publicly gay, on par with the 2004 Games. There is also a bisexual American softball player. Of the 10 publicly gay Olympians this year, only one is a man: Matthew Mitcham (Australia, diving). The out lesbians are: Judith Arndt (Germany, cycling), Imke Duplitzer (Germany, fencing), Gro Hammerseng and Katja Nyberg (Norway, handball and a lesbian couple), Natasha Kai (U.S., soccer), Lauren Lappin (U.S., softball); Victoria "Vickan" Svensson (Sweden, soccer); Rennae Stubbs (Australia, tennis) and Linda Bresonik (Germany, soccer). (...) The reasons athletes stay in the closet are varied, but revolve mainly around fear of the consequences of being out — from the effects on performance, interaction with teammates, fans and the media, and, in some cases, endorsements. In addition, the vast majority of Olympic athletes are under 30, a time when even people who are not elite jocks are wrestling with their sexuality. Being an Olympic athlete requires full-time dedication and a lot of things get put on hold. It is just easier to hide and deal with one’s sexuality later. Dover told the Associated Press prior to the Athens Games about why more gay athletes are not open. "You spend a day with these athletes, and it becomes obvious that gay people are everywhere," Dover said. "The reason many of them aren't out is because they're focused on their job during this time when sports is the No. 1 thing in their lives." (...) In the case of men’s gymnastics, Brandon Triche, who was out on his team in college, said he knows of prominent former U.S. gymnasts who are gay but closeted, in some case having sham marriages. These athletes, Triche said, are likely to never come out. One reason for the secrecy in gymnastics, Triche says, is that gay gymnasts do not want to feed the public perception that theirs is a “gay sport,” at a time when men’s programs are being cut at the collegiate level and the sport struggles for visibility. Triche disputes this perception. “I think that those who keep their sexuality secret and act overly heterosexual hinder the sport,” Triche said. “My experience shows there are no more gay men competing in gymnastics than in any other sport. I was on my high school football team and there were many more homosexuals on that team than I ever met who were ever openly gay in gymnastics. I was out on my team and had a gay teammate. But there still has not been an Olympic gymnast that has come out. “I think that for closeted elite gymnasts, not only are they scared to be a role model for gay youth, they are afraid that coming out will confirm the perception that they compete in a ‘gay sport.’ The misconceptions are so far from the truth. Gymnastics is one of the toughest, hardest and most gruelingly difficult sports in the world.” In a classic Catch-22, the reluctance of gay athletes to come out will be tough to overcome until more like them come forward and prove that being a “gay athlete” is not an oxymoron or hindrance to success. DAMMIT!!! Why'd he have to be gay? we always get stuck with the dumpy ones. hmmph.
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom

Location: Seattle Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 19, 2008 - 1:19pm |
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In Beijing Olympics, only 10 openly gay athletes Of the 10,708 athletes who will march into Beijing’s Bird’s Nest Olympic stadium on Friday, Outsports is aware of only 10 who are publicly gay, on par with the 2004 Games. There is also a bisexual American softball player. Of the 10 publicly gay Olympians this year, only one is a man: Matthew Mitcham (Australia, diving). The out lesbians are: Judith Arndt (Germany, cycling), Imke Duplitzer (Germany, fencing), Gro Hammerseng and Katja Nyberg (Norway, handball and a lesbian couple), Natasha Kai (U.S., soccer), Lauren Lappin (U.S., softball); Victoria "Vickan" Svensson (Sweden, soccer); Rennae Stubbs (Australia, tennis) and Linda Bresonik (Germany, soccer). (...) The reasons athletes stay in the closet are varied, but revolve mainly around fear of the consequences of being out — from the effects on performance, interaction with teammates, fans and the media, and, in some cases, endorsements. In addition, the vast majority of Olympic athletes are under 30, a time when even people who are not elite jocks are wrestling with their sexuality. Being an Olympic athlete requires full-time dedication and a lot of things get put on hold. It is just easier to hide and deal with one’s sexuality later. Dover told the Associated Press prior to the Athens Games about why more gay athletes are not open. "You spend a day with these athletes, and it becomes obvious that gay people are everywhere," Dover said. "The reason many of them aren't out is because they're focused on their job during this time when sports is the No. 1 thing in their lives." (...) In the case of men’s gymnastics, Brandon Triche, who was out on his team in college, said he knows of prominent former U.S. gymnasts who are gay but closeted, in some case having sham marriages. These athletes, Triche said, are likely to never come out. One reason for the secrecy in gymnastics, Triche says, is that gay gymnasts do not want to feed the public perception that theirs is a “gay sport,” at a time when men’s programs are being cut at the collegiate level and the sport struggles for visibility. Triche disputes this perception. “I think that those who keep their sexuality secret and act overly heterosexual hinder the sport,” Triche said. “My experience shows there are no more gay men competing in gymnastics than in any other sport. I was on my high school football team and there were many more homosexuals on that team than I ever met who were ever openly gay in gymnastics. I was out on my team and had a gay teammate. But there still has not been an Olympic gymnast that has come out. “I think that for closeted elite gymnasts, not only are they scared to be a role model for gay youth, they are afraid that coming out will confirm the perception that they compete in a ‘gay sport.’ The misconceptions are so far from the truth. Gymnastics is one of the toughest, hardest and most gruelingly difficult sports in the world.” In a classic Catch-22, the reluctance of gay athletes to come out will be tough to overcome until more like them come forward and prove that being a “gay athlete” is not an oxymoron or hindrance to success.
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Leslie
FIGHT THE H8

Location: Antioch, CA Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:39pm |
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You're a nut, Tom  |
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Coaxial
SHINE ON

Location: 543 miles west of Paradis,1491 miles east of Paradise Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:32pm |
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom wrote:
 Maybe the blog I saw it on won't allow remote linking ... anyway, rather than try to repost it elsewhere, I just deleted the posting. It did crack me up though... It was a guy in a red t-shirt standing next to the gawdly (carrying a sign about homosexuals burning in eternal hellfire and ranting into a microphone). The guy's red t-shirt had an arrow pointing at the gawdly, and above the arrow it said "He Loves The Cock". Besides being funny, it was quite possibly accurate. Leslie apparently was standing on in the opposite direction of the arrow.

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Alt-Ctrl-Tom

Location: Seattle Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Leslie
FIGHT THE H8

Location: Antioch, CA Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:28pm |
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Coaxial wrote:
Not quite sure what you are saying about me... 
Hey, I didn't mention you at all  |
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Coaxial
SHINE ON

Location: 543 miles west of Paradis,1491 miles east of Paradise Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:27pm |
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Leslie wrote:
And I'm not seeing anything at all. I guess that's because I do not love the cock. 
Not quite sure what you are saying about me...
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Leslie
FIGHT THE H8

Location: Antioch, CA Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:25pm |
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Coaxial wrote:
Hey Tom, I'm just seeing a red x... 
And I'm not seeing anything at all. I guess that's because I do not love the cock. |
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Coaxial
SHINE ON

Location: 543 miles west of Paradis,1491 miles east of Paradise Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Aug 10, 2008 - 8:23pm |
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Alt-Ctrl-Tom wrote:
Hey Tom, I'm just seeing a red x...
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RichardPrins


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Jul 24, 2008 - 1:42pm |
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'Don't ask, don't tell' policy is reexamined
Lawmakers review the 1993 law that prohibits gays and lesbians from openly serving in the military.
WASHINGTON — The U.S. military is being harmed by prohibiting gays and lesbians from serving openly, a congressional panel was told Wednesday, the first time lawmakers have examined the "don't ask, don't tell" policy since the law was passed in 1993.
Opponents of the policy told a House Armed Services subcommittee that it is hurting the military by barring the enlistment of otherwise qualified people and requiring the discharge of highly trained personnel who have publicly acknowledged their sexual orientation.
Several recent polls show that Americans are significantly more accepting of allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly, and the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, has said he would work to repeal the law. His expected Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, has said the policy should be maintained.
Democratic lawmakers called the subcommittee hearing a long-overdue session to begin the process of dismantling the policy. Legislation to do so was initially introduced in 2005, but the Republican control of Congress at the time ensured it would fail. The bill was reintroduced last year.
"We have figured out how to deal with racial integration and gender discrimination," said Rep. Ellen O. Tauscher (D-Alamo), the bill's sponsor. "This is the last frontier." (...)
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Danimal174

Location: Upstate South Carolina Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Jul 20, 2008 - 6:31pm |
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hippiechick wrote: Conservatives Insist South Carolina Is Not Gay ... Not Even a Little Bi-Curious
By Isaac Fitzgerald, AlterNet
Posted on July 17, 2008, Printed on July 19, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/91775/
Amro Worldwide has managed to upset a few folks in the Palmetto State with an advertising campaign they commissioned in London. A South Carolina state employee has resigned over the fiasco, and many state officials have publicly denounced the ads. MSNBC reports:
The campaign, which plastered the London subway with posters advertising the charms of South Carolina and five major U.S. cities to gay European tourists, landed with a resounding thud in South Carolina, where the issue of gay rights has long been a political flashpoint.
The advertisements were timed for London's Gay Pride Week, which ended Saturday. The posters touted the attractions of the state to gay tourists, including its "gay beaches" and its Civil War-era plantations.
Similar ads were posted for Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, New Orleans and Washington, D.C., none of which reported any negative backlash. But in South Carolina, reaction to the posters -- dubbed "the gayest ever mainstream media advertising campaign in London" by Out Now, the Australian advertising firm that designed the promotion -- was swift.
After The Palmetto Scoop, a South Carolina political blog, uncovered the promotion last week, Republican state Sen. David Thomas of Greenville protested the campaign and called for an audit of the advertising budget overseen by the state Department of Parks, Recreation and Tourism.
"South Carolinians will be irate when they learn their hard earned tax dollars are being spent to advertise our state as 'so gay,'" Thomas said in a statement.
Sounds like a classic case of denial to me.
The article goes on to quote Ventphis Stafford of Charleston saying "We're so gay? Nah. Wrong state. Go to California." Given the growing gay-tourism industry, many in California hope that people will take Ventphis' advice.
Todd Lappin at Laughing Squid is concerned about South Carolina dipping into his city's lucrative gay tourism revenues:
Sound absurd? Consider: San Francisco may have The Castro, Pride, and legalized marriage, but South Carolina has Hilton Head, antebellum mansions, and burly Civil War reenactors dashing though the woods in cute uniforms. And which of those do *you* think Judy Garland would prefer?
Indeed.
LOL...I was in Myrtle Beach last weekend when this story broke; it was their top story on the evening news. Of course, my wife & I were staying with her very conservative parents while down there, and they had quite a bit to say about the ad.
Here's a pic of the ad -
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Servo
Keeping Hope Alive

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Jul 19, 2008 - 7:58pm |
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hippiechick wrote: Conservatives Insist South Carolina Is Not Gay ... Not Even a Little Bi-Curious
Hmmm...looks like the Repubs are courting Iran to be their sister state.
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hippiechick
Did you ever grow anything in the garden of your mind?

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Jul 19, 2008 - 8:35am |
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Conservatives Insist South Carolina Is Not Gay ... Not Even a Little Bi-Curious
By Isaac Fitzgerald, AlterNet
Posted on July 17, 2008, Printed on July 19, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/91775/
Amro Worldwide has managed to upset a few folks in the Palmetto State with an advertising campaign they commissioned in London. A South Carolina state employee has resigned over the fiasco, and many state officials have publicly denounced the ads. MSNBC reports:
The campaign, which plastered the London subway with posters advertising the charms of South Carolina and five major U.S. cities to gay European tourists, landed with a resounding thud in South Carolina, where the issue of gay rights has long been a political flashpoint.
The advertisements were timed for London's Gay Pride Week, which ended Saturday. The posters touted the attractions of the state to gay tourists, including its "gay beaches" and its Civil War-era plantations.
Similar ads were posted for Atlanta, Boston, Las Vegas, New Orleans and Washington, D.C., none of which reported any negative backlash. But in South Carolina, reaction to the posters -- dubbed "the gayest ever mainstream media advertising campaign in London" by Out Now, the Australian advertising firm that designed the promotion -- was swift.
After The Palmetto Scoop, a South Carolina political blog, uncovered the promotion last week, Republican state Sen. David Thomas of Greenville protested the campaign and called for an audit of the advertising budget overseen by the state Department of Parks, Recreation and Tourism.
"South Carolinians will be irate when they learn their hard earned tax dollars are being spent to advertise our state as 'so gay,'" Thomas said in a statement.
Sounds like a classic case of denial to me.
The article goes on to quote Ventphis Stafford of Charleston saying "We're so gay? Nah. Wrong state. Go to California." Given the growing gay-tourism industry, many in California hope that people will take Ventphis' advice.
Todd Lappin at Laughing Squid is concerned about South Carolina dipping into his city's lucrative gay tourism revenues:
Sound absurd? Consider: San Francisco may have The Castro, Pride, and legalized marriage, but South Carolina has Hilton Head, antebellum mansions, and burly Civil War reenactors dashing though the woods in cute uniforms. And which of those do *you* think Judy Garland would prefer?
Indeed.
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Inamorato
A deeply-rooted affectional preference

Location: Twin Cities Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Jul 14, 2008 - 2:48pm |
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Man wins damages over gay driving test retake
ROME (Reuters) - An Italian court has ruled the government must pay 100,000 euros ($157,700) in damages to a man who was told to retake a driving test because he was homosexual.
When 26 year-old Danilo Giuffrida told doctors he was gay at his medical examination for military service, they passed the information to the transport ministry, who told him he must repeat his driving test or have his license withdrawn due to his "sexual identity disturbance."
Giuffrida agreed to re-take his test, passed it for a second time, but the ministry renewed his license for just one year rather than the usual 10 years because of his homosexuality.
The judge ruling on the case in Catania, on the southern island of Sicily, said the actions of the defense and transport ministries showed "evident sexual discrimination" against Giuffrida and ran counter to his constitutional rights.
The behavior of the ministries led Giuffrida to have "a grave sense of mistrust towards the state," added the judge, who ordered them to pay him 100,000 euros of damages in his verdict issued on Saturday.
Giuffrida's lawyer said the case marked the first time the state had been punished for sexual discrimination, and he hoped Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi would "summon Giuffrida and apologize to him on behalf of the state and all Italians."
Giuffrida said the sentence was "a step forwards for civil rights because from now on what happened to me can't happen again." |
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hippiechick
Did you ever grow anything in the garden of your mind?

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Jun 26, 2008 - 5:55pm |
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Why does Heinz feel the need to bend over (pun intended) for homophobes? |
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MrClean
When in Paradise

Location: just south of paradise Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Jun 26, 2008 - 3:19pm |
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1) That ad is classic funny! I find most evangelical TV waaaaaay more offensive.
2) If your doc wont treat you because of who or what you are, find another, less close minded and uptight doctor who will. Theres a million of them and not all of them cling so tightly to their book of fairy tales.
3) I've seen the Mariners play, I'd rather watch two chicks in the bleachers make out.
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