OK, I'm not going to debate religion vs. spirituality here, with you or anyone else.

My original point was that Mitt donates 10% to his church because he's instructed to do so as a part of his faith. As for that being something that we the populous should all examine as to whether or not that makes him a good presidential candidate is simply ludicrous. And as has already been stated herein, if the IRS is OK with the Romneys' returns, so am I. I make it my fiduciary responsibility to pay as little in taxes as I can, so what's wrong with Mitt (or Barack) doing the same?

I violated my own rule by even coming in here this morning. But as long as I did so, I'm going to let you know that I have family (brother) and friends who espouse the views of the political party to which I am opposed. There is nothing I can do to persuade them otherwise, just as they cannot change my mind. It's a mistake, therefore, for you to think you can alter the course of events by repeatedly slamming Mitt (and Ann) herein, just as it would be for me to slam Barack in the "Re-elect" forum, if that's how I feel about the POTUS.

With the media jumping on Ann's "you all" utterance yesterday and trying to make that into something it isn't, then for you to seize that and promote it herein is mindless. Much of the media is mindless; truly smart people can smell sensationalism and know to leave it alone, that it's just a misguided effort to garner higher ratings, sell more newspapers or whatever.

Now about Barack's cross-dressing tendencies....

   

No, all religious people pick the parts out that they like, that's why there are so many different kinds of churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, etc. Religion is simply a social club of people who all believe in the same thing, godwise. Religious institutions are one of the the most narrowly defined institutions existing, with membership consisting usually of people of the same social strata if not same color and political beliefs.

How many people still worry about mixing different kinds of fibers? I read the OT, and there is a whole lot that even the most religious person does not practice any more. The OT is absolutely horrible, Lot sacrificed his daughters to be raped. In fact, I find that the more people take religion seriously, the more likely they are to pick out only the parts they like.

Spirituality is something completely different from religion.

jagdriver wrote:
OK, make it "the vast majority" then.

And I'm very grateful that we don't have more people being stoned to death for or sold into slavery or sacrificed on altars. If you buy the whole package and ride every ride it's pretty gruesome.

Should read, "Some religious people..."

Your brush is too broad.

Should read, "Some religious people..."

Your brush is too broad. 

Religious people like to pick the parts that work for them, and ignore the rest. I know that in the OT, a farmer was to leave the edges of his crop for those in need, and that every 7 (?) years he was to leave his whole crop.

A god and religion are two separate entities, imo.

Although it's open to interpretation, the Bible does contain scripture suggesting that 10% of one's income should be returned to God for the furtherance of His kingdom.

Now if only the Romneys subscribed to only that book as being their guiding light, rather than the magical Book of Mormon. As I recall, there is also Biblical scripture instructing one to neither add to, nor take away, anything from the Bible, so I don't understand how Mormons can justify this additional volume. But then those of the Jewish faith do not subscribe to the New Testament, so where's that put them?

In the end, I'm not picking a presidential candidate because of his/her faith and like many of us, I am enamored with neither of the current choices. Is this the best we can do? 

“He’s a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year."

I don't consider giving money to a church so that they can use that money to send missionaries to convert people to Mormon to be generous. More like a business investment.

Slabby's unavailable at the moment so,
 
"mitt" 
 
Sorry if I did it wrong.  

Human Rights

Equally for

Everyone

Everywhere

 true. Whats to be done? grab some sterno and tents at Costco?

i feel like i'm living an issue of a supermarket tabloid

obama and romney are feeding from the same lobbyist trough

and people believe there is a difference and expect miracles

never going to happen...

like Obama's birth certificate or vaginal ultrasounds?