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Posted: May 18, 2012 - 2:08pm

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Dennis, we're gonna miss you.  He is retiring at the end of this term.  He has guts, the kind we need most.  And losing Ron Paul this term as well will be another huge loss to the American people.

Of particular interest is that he flat out urges "members to read this" 3 times during his speech.  The first time is at the 30 sec point.  How telling of the fact that no one reads what they vote on.  Not to mention the topic he is speaking on.

Yep, we certainly seem to be headed to war with Iran.  The Navy is already refurbishing a vessel to launch commando raids for this specific purpose.  No doubt there will be more.  It is being done quietly.  The MSM ain't covering this stuff and I didn't learn of it by listening to Fox or reading blogs.  The source was Coast to Coast AM, which I have been a regular listener for nearly 20 years.  This was brought up back in January, right after the specs were released.  I remembered hearing it and went to look for the supporting info just now and sure enough, with the right search questions it came up and on a credible source.  Coasties are rarely surprised about anything going on in the real world.  We just sit back and wait and see how long it takes to hit the MSM.  We are usually months ahead of the curve.  The honey bees are a great example as they were being discussed nearly a year before it broke on network news.  C2C is about a whole lot more than UFO's and ghosts.

It is also the place I learned about the real reason for the invasion of Iraq.  Its about oil, but not about having it, but how it is bought and sold.  A currency war.  It was widely discused within a year after the war began.  This idea is only recently starting to gain traction and cred in the blogosphere.  The MSM will never cover this angle.

My apologies for going on, but this seemed to be the time and the place for this.

 
It's all the crap about UFOs and Ghosts that make it so hard to take any of the other content seriously.  Suppose I told you the sky was yellow, that you  could substitute sand for sugar, that walking on glass was fun, that Twinkies and diet Coke was a nutritious diet, that there are 4 quarters to a dollar, and that it's a good idea to drive on the left side of the road in Delaware because it was founded by the British.  Would you go buy Twinkies and Coke for dinner just because you recognized the number of quarters per dollar?
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Posted: May 18, 2012 - 1:58pm

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That is right Kurt and things like this going on is just another reason I get so frustrated at the partisan bickering. These are the kinds of things they want to distract us from. I really miss Art too.
 
Rearranging the deck chairs, my friends. Just rearranging the deck chairs...
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Posted: May 18, 2012 - 2:13am

 kurtster wrote:

Dennis, we're gonna miss you.  He is retiring at the end of this term.  He has guts, the kind we need most.  And losing Ron Paul this term as well will be another huge loss to the American people.

Of particular interest is that he flat out urges "members to read this" 3 times during his speech.  The first time is at the 30 sec point.  How telling of the fact that no one reads what they vote on.  Not to mention the topic he is speaking on.

Yep, we certainly seem to be headed to war with Iran.  The Navy is already refurbishing a vessel to launch commando raids for this specific purpose.  No doubt there will be more.  It is being done quietly.  The MSM ain't covering this stuff and I didn't learn of it by listening to Fox or reading blogs.  The source was Coast to Coast AM, which I have been a regular listener for nearly 20 years.  This was brought up back in January, right after the specs were released.  I remembered hearing it and went to look for the supporting info just now and sure enough, with the right search questions it came up and on a credible source.  Coasties are rarely surprised about anything going on in the real world.  We just sit back and wait and see how long it takes to hit the MSM.  We are usually months ahead of the curve.  The honey bees are a great example as they were being discussed nearly a year before it broke on network news.  C2C is about a whole lot more than UFO's and ghosts.

It is also the place I learned about the real reason for the invasion of Iraq.  Its about oil, but not about having it, but how it is bought and sold.  A currency war.  It was widely discused within a year after the war began.  This idea is only recently starting to gain traction and cred in the blogosphere.  The MSM will never cover this angle.

My apologies for going on, but this seemed to be the time and the place for this.

 
That is right Kurt and things like this going on is just another reason I get so frustrated at the partisan bickering. These are the kinds of things they want to distract us from. I really miss Art too.
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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 8:20pm

 miamizsun wrote: 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was William Clark who was the guest I spoke about on this subject.  2003 ish sounds about right in the time line.  I just went to the website and the guest list only goes back 90 days.  Your link and his 2003 award is for this very subject.

I sure miss Art and hope is well.  At least he and his wife and daughter were finally let back in the country and he is back in Nevada.  George is doing a great job and I really enjoy the way he has steered the franchise.  He is the gentleist of souls and no man is sincerely kinder on the airwaves to all, even the craziest and sometimes the rude who manage to slip in.

John B. Wells, who took over Saturdays for Ian Punnett is really unafraid.  George has doen Art proud and kept it going in the spirit intended.

Its just that the show starts at 1 am  eastern and many late nights of listening, but still worth it.  Sometimes the subjects are so good or intense that falling asleep becomes difficult.  Not many places where 1 guest can be on for 4 hours nonstop anymore. 

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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 8:01pm

 kurtster wrote:
Dennis, we're gonna miss you.  He is retiring at the end of this term.  He has guts, the kind we need most.  And losing Ron Paul this term as well will be another huge loss to the American people.

Of particular interest is that he flat out urges "members to read this" 3 times during his speech.  The first time is at the 30 sec point.  How telling of the fact that no one reads what they vote on.  Not to mention the topic he is speaking on.

Yep, we certainly seem to be headed to war with Iran.  The Navy is already refurbishing a vessel to launch commando raids for this specific purpose.  No doubt there will be more.  It is being done quietly.  The MSM ain't covering this stuff and I didn't learn of it by listening to Fox or reading blogs.  The source was Coast to Coast AM, which I have been a regular listener for nearly 20 years.  This was brought up back in January, right after the specs were released.  I remembered hearing it and went to look for the supporting info just now and sure enough, with the right search questions it came up and on a credible source.  Coasties are rarely surprised about anything going on in the real world.  We just sit back and wait and see how long it takes to hit the MSM.  We are usually months ahead of the curve.  The honey bees are a great example as they were being discussed nearly a year before it broke on network news.  C2C is about a whole lot more than UFO's and ghosts.

It is also the place I learned about the real reason for the invasion of Iraq.  Its about oil, but not about having it, but how it is bought and sold.  A currency war.  It was widely discused within a year after the war began.  This idea is only recently starting to gain traction and cred in the blogosphere.  The MSM will never cover this angle.

My apologies for going on, but this seemed to be the time and the place for this.

 
this is from early 2006, an oldie but goody with William Clark - Petrodollar Warfare

here's something a little mo fresh The Petrodollar, Iran, and Gold—What You Need to Know
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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 7:15pm

 miamizsun wrote:
welcome to another war...


 
Dennis, we're gonna miss you.  He is retiring at the end of this term.  He has guts, the kind we need most.  And losing Ron Paul this term as well will be another huge loss to the American people.

Of particular interest is that he flat out urges "members to read this" 3 times during his speech.  The first time is at the 30 sec point.  How telling of the fact that no one reads what they vote on.  Not to mention the topic he is speaking on.

Yep, we certainly seem to be headed to war with Iran.  The Navy is already refurbishing a vessel to launch commando raids for this specific purpose.  No doubt there will be more.  It is being done quietly.  The MSM ain't covering this stuff and I didn't learn of it by listening to Fox or reading blogs.  The source was Coast to Coast AM, which I have been a regular listener for nearly 20 years.  This was brought up back in January, right after the specs were released.  I remembered hearing it and went to look for the supporting info just now and sure enough, with the right search questions it came up and on a credible source.  Coasties are rarely surprised about anything going on in the real world.  We just sit back and wait and see how long it takes to hit the MSM.  We are usually months ahead of the curve.  The honey bees are a great example as they were being discussed nearly a year before it broke on network news.  C2C is about a whole lot more than UFO's and ghosts.

It is also the place I learned about the real reason for the invasion of Iraq.  Its about oil, but not about having it, but how it is bought and sold.  A currency war.  It was widely discused within a year after the war began.  This idea is only recently starting to gain traction and cred in the blogosphere.  The MSM will never cover this angle.

My apologies for going on, but this seemed to be the time and the place for this.


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Posted: May 17, 2012 - 6:36pm

welcome to another war...

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Posted: May 14, 2012 - 4:14pm


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Posted: Apr 4, 2012 - 1:35pm

Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all

A man whose lies helped to make the case for invading Iraq – starting a nine-year war costing more than 100,000 lives and hundreds of billions of pounds – will come clean in his first British television interview tomorrow.

"Curveball", the Iraqi defector who fabricated claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, smiles as he confirms how he made the whole thing up. It was a confidence trick that changed the course of history, with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi's lies used to justify the Iraq war.

He tries to defend his actions: "My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime's oppression."

The chemical engineer claimed to have overseen the building of a mobile biological laboratory when he sought political asylum in Germany in 1999. His lies were presented as "facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence" by Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, when making the case for war at the UN Security Council in February 2003.

But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him "we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie", he simply replies: "Yes."

US officials "sexed up" Mr Janabi's drawings of mobile biological weapons labs to make them more presentable, admits Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, General Powell's former chief of staff. "I brought the White House team in to do the graphics," he says, adding how "intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy".

As for his former boss: "I don't see any way on this earth that Secretary Powell doesn't feel almost a rage about Curveball and the way he was used in regards to that intelligence."

Another revelation in the series is the real reason why the FBI swooped on Russian spy Anna Chapman in 2010. Top officials feared the glamorous Russian agent wanted to seduce one of US President Barack Obama's inner circle. Frank Figliuzzi, the FBI's head of counterintelligence, reveals how she got "closer and closer to higher and higher ranking leadership... she got close enough to disturb us".

The fear that Chapman would compromise a senior US official in a "honey trap" was a key reason for the arrest and deportation of the Russian spy ring of 10 people, of which she was a part, in 2010. "We were becoming very concerned," he says. "They were getting close enough to a sitting US cabinet member that we thought we could no longer allow this to continue." Mr Figliuzzi refuses to name the individual who was being targeted.

Several British spies also feature in the programme, in the first time that serving intelligence officers have been interviewed on television. In contrast to the US intelligence figures, the British spies are cloaked in darkness, their voices dubbed by actors. BBC veteran reporter Peter Taylor, who worked for a year putting the documentary together, describes them as "ordinary people who are committed to what they do" and "a million miles" from the spies depicted in film. He adds: "What surprised me was the extent to which they work within a civil service bureaucracy. Everything has to be signed off... you've got to have authorisation signed in triplicate."

Would-be agents should abandon any Hollywood fantasies they may have, says Sonya Holt at the CIA recruitment centre. "They think it's more like the movies, that they are going to be jumping out of cars and that everyone carries a weapon... Yes we're collecting intelligence but we don't all drive fast cars. You're going to be writing reports; you're in meetings so it's not always that glamorous image of what you see in the movies."


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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 - 9:26pm


Nine years after Baghdad erupted in “shock and awe,” we’re once again hearing in America the drumbeat for war in the Middle East. Now, the bull’s-eye is on Iran. But what we need more than a simple change of target is a complete change in perspective, says Andrew Bacevich, a West Point graduate and Vietnam veteran-turned-scholar who’s become one of the most perceptive observers of America’s changing role in the world.

This week, on an all-new Moyers & Company, Bill Moyers and Bacevich explore the futility of “endless” wars, and provide a reality check on the rhetoric of American exceptionalism.

“Are we so unimaginative, so wedded to the reliance on military means that we cannot conceive of any way to reconcile our differences with groups and nations in the Islamic world, and therefore bring this conflict to an end?” Bacevich tells Moyers.

Bacevich also answers the question of whether Iran is a direct threat to America with a definitive no. "Whatever threat Iran poses is very, very limited," he tells Moyers, "and certainly does not constitute any kind of justification for yet another experiment with preventive war."
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Posted: Mar 16, 2012 - 2:09am

The nerve...
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Posted: Mar 15, 2012 - 2:24pm

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Beating Iran with a MOP

 
the psychological front lines
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Posted: Mar 15, 2012 - 2:21pm

 RichardPrins wrote:
U.S. May Attack Iran with New ‘Great Weapon’ – Pentagon Official
The United States may use a new 13,600-kilogram bunker-buster bomb against Iran, DefenseNews.com reported on Thursay quoting the U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. Herbert Carlisle as saying.

"The massive ordnance penetrator* is a great weapon. We are continuing to improve that. It has great capability now and we are continuing to make it better,” Carlisle said on Thursday. “It is part of our arsenal and it will be a potential if we need it in that kind of scenario.”

Speaking at the conference on the U.S. defense programs, Carlisle said that the bomb was "a great weapon," specially designed to attack countries like Iran which have their nuclear facilities buried underground. (...)
* I need a smoke...

 
Beating Iran with a MOP
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Posted: Mar 15, 2012 - 2:18pm

Top ten media failures in the Iran war debate | Stephen M. Walt
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Posted: Mar 8, 2012 - 11:00pm

U.S. May Attack Iran with New ‘Great Weapon’ – Pentagon Official
The United States may use a new 13,600-kilogram bunker-buster bomb against Iran, DefenseNews.com reported on Thursay quoting the U.S. Air Force Lt. Gen. Herbert Carlisle as saying.

"The massive ordnance penetrator* is a great weapon. We are continuing to improve that. It has great capability now and we are continuing to make it better,” Carlisle said on Thursday. “It is part of our arsenal and it will be a potential if we need it in that kind of scenario.”

Speaking at the conference on the U.S. defense programs, Carlisle said that the bomb was "a great weapon," specially designed to attack countries like Iran which have their nuclear facilities buried underground. (...)
* I need a smoke...
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Posted: Mar 8, 2012 - 3:20pm

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Shades of Iraq
 

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Posted: Mar 8, 2012 - 5:44am

 RichardPrins wrote:
Satellite images show Iran cleaning secret nuclear activity, sources say
Diplomat tells Associated Press alleged testing at site could indicate attempt to develop nuclear arms; other sources say images show vehicles at site, indicating crews trying to clean it of radioactive traces.

Ambiguous satellite photos. Check. Anonymous sources tell. Check.
Is it time yet for someone to present an ominous looking little container?

 
Shades of Iraq
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Posted: Mar 7, 2012 - 9:40pm

Satellite images show Iran cleaning secret nuclear activity, sources say
Diplomat tells Associated Press alleged testing at site could indicate attempt to develop nuclear arms; other sources say images show vehicles at site, indicating crews trying to clean it of radioactive traces.

Ambiguous satellite photos. Check. Anonymous sources tell. Check.
Is it time yet for someone to present an ominous looking little container?
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Posted: Mar 7, 2012 - 9:14pm




Obama's Press Conference: Who Are the Cowards Now?

by Charles P. Pierce
Esquire
March 6, 2012

I don't think we should ever minimize the political value of carefully bridled contempt. The president — who can, his attorney-general has said, pretty much kill anyone he wants, anywhere — held a press conference on (Super) Tuesday afternoon in which most of the questions were about the ongoing concerns about the Iranian nuclear program, the issue on which the Republican presidential candidates have become increasingly bellicose. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Joe Lieberman — the Moe, Larry, and Curly of the national-security state — are all up in his grill now, too, about why he hasn't yet bombed the hell out of Syria. (Thanks, commenter Jennifer Hill!) So the president took the opportunity to remind the entire noisy peanut gallery that it's easy to call for another war from the cheap seats...

He leaned heavily on the notion that we are still in a "window of opportunity" in which diplomacy and sanctions could forestall a military action, something that NBC's Richard Engel said afterwards might not sit well with "hardline Israelis." (My opinion? "Hardline Israelis" can sit in a corner and have a cookie.) But what was more evident was that the president pretty much feels as though he's been pecked at by ducks who really don't have any skin in the actual game, and that he finds their bellicosity not only against the national interest, but also politically offensive. They don't have the courage to stand up against their own compulsion to demagogue the most serious job a president has. Who are the cowards now?...


 


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