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AliGator

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 12:12pm

out_to_lunch wrote:


dude, I know chefs. I've been told this. I'll quote you one in fact:

(click here)

"Last night, on Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations Holiday Special, we got a mixed bag: part educational, part foodie fantasy land, and part goofy, indulgent "cool guy" time-filler. This is to be expected, but also, as usual, the educational and the fantasy parts overlapped, and made up for the random stuff.

In particular, we were very pleased to see the force-feeding of ducks at Hudson Valley Foie Gras, where Bourdain chatted with a veterinarian who explained why it is perfectly un-cruel to eat their delicious, fatty livers. The birds don't choke when the tubes are inserted down their throats, because their windpipes are not obstructed, as ours would be. Also, he said that storing fat in the liver is normal for these guys, not a disease, as animal rights groups claim. "

In the US, foie gras is done differently than the tradition as found still in Paris, a sort of culinary capital of the world. And I would further argue that the cruelty is also based on how these animals are housed - tiny cages for their whole lives.

Foie gras is reprehensible.



You and Zep are talking about two different things. He's talking about a photo of an embryonic duck in an egg; he posted it a page or so back.

You're talking about foie gras, which I don't agree with you about, and I doubt we could ever agree about it. But since you're talking about Bourdain, I'll give you this quote from him in an article from Salon:

"In proper foie gras farming, the same feeder tends the duck every day, and more often than not, it's the duck who approaches the feeder. They have room to run around, to live a good, natural life -- even a pampered one -- compared with the horrifying and vastly more widespread practice of raising battery chickens."

Here's the whole thing, for anyone who's interested.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 12:11pm

out_to_lunch wrote:
Foie gras is reprehensible.


That's foie gras.

I'm talking about balut.

Different.

out_to_lunch
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 12:06pm

Zep wrote:


Ummm no, duck eggs. The whole thing, not just the liver. There is no feeding (it's an embryo). And no electrocution. And from what I can tell, probably not much liver either.



dude, I know chefs. I've been told this. I'll quote you one in fact:

(click here)

"Last night, on Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations Holiday Special, we got a mixed bag: part educational, part foodie fantasy land, and part goofy, indulgent "cool guy" time-filler. This is to be expected, but also, as usual, the educational and the fantasy parts overlapped, and made up for the random stuff.

In particular, we were very pleased to see the force-feeding of ducks at Hudson Valley Foie Gras, where Bourdain chatted with a veterinarian who explained why it is perfectly un-cruel to eat their delicious, fatty livers. The birds don't choke when the tubes are inserted down their throats, because their windpipes are not obstructed, as ours would be. Also, he said that storing fat in the liver is normal for these guys, not a disease, as animal rights groups claim. "

In the US, foie gras is done differently than the tradition as found still in Paris, a sort of culinary capital of the world. And I would further argue that the cruelty is also based on how these animals are housed - tiny cages for their whole lives.

Foie gras is reprehensible.


Welly
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 12:05pm

AliGator wrote:
I'm a huge fan of foie gras.


Moi aussi.

*edit* I should probably add that while I love it, I am entirely conflicted by it and haven't eaten it in years. I expect to be sorely tempted in France later this year.
hippiechick
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:59am

out_to_lunch wrote:


It's Duck Liver (not baby, though) and they force feed it throughout it's whole life, to the point where it's completely engorged. Then - for maximum tastiness - the electrocute it at death. This causes the liver (pate) to be full of fat, which is what you see below.


Yeah, great stuff.


It's a delicacy for the wealthiest, it seems, and it makes me think of David Cross talking about the time he took his girlfriend to a fancy dinner. It was $800 for the two and dessert was a mountain of chocolate covered in 14 k gold shavings. His take on it was, "there - see that poor people? I just ate gold. And in a minute, I'm gonna shit gold. How do you like that?" Pretty funny....I should find the quote....

In Chi they made it illegal, then they made it legal again. Blechh! I hate the way animals are tortured for food.

Yes, I am a meat eater, and one with a lot of shame. I have cut way down, and try to buy my meat from Whole Foods, where animals are treated compassionately up until slaughter.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:58am

out_to_lunch wrote:
It's Duck Liver (not baby, though) and they force feed it throughout it's whole life, to the point where it's completely engorged. Then - for maximum tastiness - the electrocute it at death. This causes the liver (pate) to be full of fat, which is what you see below.


Ummm no, duck eggs. The whole thing, not just the liver. There is no feeding (it's an embryo). And no electrocution. And from what I can tell, probably not much liver either.


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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:54am

Zep wrote:


Duck.


It's Duck Liver (not baby, though) and they force feed it throughout it's whole life, to the point where it's completely engorged. Then - for maximum tastiness - the electrocute it at death. This causes the liver (pate) to be full of fat, which is what you see below.


Yeah, great stuff.


It's a delicacy for the wealthiest, it seems, and it makes me think of David Cross talking about the time he took his girlfriend to a fancy dinner. It was $800 for the two and dessert was a mountain of chocolate covered in 14 k gold shavings. His take on it was, "there - see that poor people? I just ate gold. And in a minute, I'm gonna shit gold. How do you like that?" Pretty funny....I should find the quote....
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:54am

AliGator wrote:
Ah, I see from the URLs that that's a jackfruit. I was about to ask if it was a durian. I've heard that's pretty darn stinky.


Jackfruit, right, though they pronounce it as "jock" fruit.

I think Trek's fruit might indeed be a durian, however. See here.



AliGator

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:49am

Zep wrote:


This one?







Ah, I see from the URLs that that's a jackfruit. I was about to ask if it was a durian. I've heard that's pretty darn stinky.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:44am

trekhead wrote:
The Filipinos seem to have a knack.

They produce that fruit that made the GROSS FOODS guy throw up.

That big, prickly pungent abomination.
I've tried a piece.



You do NOT get rid of the smell.


This one?






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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:41am

Zep wrote:
Another Filipino entry,


The Filipinos seem to have a knack.

They produce that fruit that made the GROSS FOODS guy throw up.

That big, prickly pungent abomination.
I've tried a piece.



You do NOT get rid of the smell.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:41am

agnes wrote:
K, so it's definitely not a delicacy, but it's very gross and it's the only thing my belly wants after a few too many boozes:

the double-cheeseburger from McDonald's.

I go away, and feel shame.


Doesn't it taste the best at 3am when you get it at the drive thru and eat it all in the car, disposing of the wrapper and bag before going into the house so you can pretend it never happened??
AliGator

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:40am

MrsHobieJoe wrote:


We are off to the land of foie gras (Perigord) on Friday. Don't shoot the messenger though- I'm a veggie.


Gah! Lucky!
AliGator

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:40am

I'm a huge fan of foie gras.
Zep
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:39am

hippiechick wrote:
Ick! That's a baby something!!!!


Duck.

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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:39am

out_to_lunch wrote:
Foie Gras. Its reprehensible and looks icky:



We are off to the land of foie gras (Perigord) on Friday. Don't shoot the messenger though- I'm a veggie.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:38am

Zep wrote:
Balut, a Filipino delicacy.




Ick! That's a baby something!!!!
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:38am

Finally, the palate cleanser. Baduya, fried banana or plantain, available on every street corner. Add some peanuts and you have an "Elvis."



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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:38am

dionysius wrote:
I will eat your Cobb salad gladly, and your sushi with or without tofu, either way. I have partaken of the shellfish and flesh of the cloven-footed and other trayf delights. I will wave wild mushrooms under your noses and laugh.

Just no SPAM® please!


I will bring the Kirin - you can have my salad. :)
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Posted: Jun 24, 2008 - 11:36am

dionysius wrote:



YES!!!!


get in the comfy chair...

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