Letter to Emily White at NPR All Songs Considered.

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 5:42am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

The intern made it clear that she also didn't do a lot of downloading, but spent a lot of time at her college radio station ripping the station's CDs to her hard drive, ripping friends' CDs, swapping mixtapes etc.

I've done a little swapping/ripping that I wasn't entitled to but looking at my iTunes, I have 17000 songs in it and I'm not sure exactly but we have somewhere around 1300 physical CDs. She has 15 discs, 11000 songs.

Oh I see, yes that is a different matter altogether.

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 4:59am

sirdroseph wrote:

I haven't tried to download anything for free in some time, but haven't they successfully made it so irritating by flooding uploads with bad files and viruses that most people over 15 don't even bother anymore? Is this really even an issue anymore? I don't know, I am just asking.

The intern made it clear that she also didn't do a lot of downloading, but spent a lot of time at her college radio station ripping the station's CDs to her hard drive, ripping friends' CDs, swapping mixtapes etc.

I've done a little swapping/ripping that I wasn't entitled to but looking at my iTunes, I have 17000 songs in it and I'm not sure exactly but we have somewhere around 1300 physical CDs. She has 15 discs, 11000 songs.

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 - 2:11am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Resurrecting this thread to post a piece by David Lowery (Cracker, Camper Van Beethoven)

Letter to Emily White at NPR All Songs Considered.

Recently Emily White, an intern at NPR All Songs Considered and GM of what appears to be her college radio station, wrote a post on the NPR blog in which she acknowledged that while she had 11,000 songs in her music library, she’s only paid for 15 CDs in her life. Our intention is not to embarrass or shame her. We believe young people like Emily White who are fully engaged in the music scene are the artist’s biggest allies. We also believe–for reasons we’ll get into–that she has been been badly misinformed by the Free Culture movement. We only ask the opportunity to present a countervailing viewpoint.

I haven't tried to download anything for free in some time, but haven't they successfully made it so irritating by flooding uploads with bad files and viruses that most people over 15 don't even bother anymore? Is this really even an issue anymore? I don't know, I am just asking.

Posted: Jun 20, 2012 - 8:49pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Resurrecting this thread to post a piece by David Lowery (Cracker, Camper Van Beethoven)

Letter to Emily White at NPR All Songs Considered.

Recently Emily White, an intern at NPR All Songs Considered and GM of what appears to be her college radio station, wrote a post on the NPR blog in which she acknowledged that while she had 11,000 songs in her music library, she’s only paid for 15 CDs in her life. Our intention is not to embarrass or shame her. We believe young people like Emily White who are fully engaged in the music scene are the artist’s biggest allies. We also believe–for reasons we’ll get into–that she has been been badly misinformed by the Free Culture movement. We only ask the opportunity to present a countervailing viewpoint.

Very cool piece. Made me think twice.

Posted: Jun 20, 2012 - 4:42pm

Resurrecting this thread to post a piece by David Lowery (Cracker, Camper Van Beethoven)

Letter to Emily White at NPR All Songs Considered.

Recently Emily White, an intern at NPR All Songs Considered and GM of what appears to be her college radio station, wrote a post on the NPR blog in which she acknowledged that while she had 11,000 songs in her music library, she’s only paid for 15 CDs in her life. Our intention is not to embarrass or shame her. We believe young people like Emily White who are fully engaged in the music scene are the artist’s biggest allies. We also believe–for reasons we’ll get into–that she has been been badly misinformed by the Free Culture movement. We only ask the opportunity to present a countervailing viewpoint.

Posted: Jan 16, 2008 - 1:58pm

Ripped to Shreds
* By Adrienne Day
* Published Dec 30, 2007

In the dying days of the music business as we once knew it, record labels are waging war on leaksÂonly to discover that many of the saboteurs come from within the industry itself.

Posted: Apr 26, 2007 - 9:20pm

This is an interesting, well-considered article about downloading, free stuff, and the music biz.

Posted: Mar 31, 2004 - 3:49pm

spieler wrote:

The judge is a clueless idiot.

Perhaps. But maybe we should read Canada's copyright laws before we judge the judge.

It made me think of the local truck farmers around here, who offer their produce at roadside, unattended, honor system. I know this is stretching it, but it seems to me a crime is not committed until someone steals the corn without paying. Doesn't make the seller guilty of abetting a crime. I realize the intent is quite different here, but then again, I'm not familiar with Canadian law, which might actually be a bit less Draconian than that in the US.

Posted: Mar 31, 2004 - 3:24pm

Now if we can only get the US Supreme Court to be so wise...

Posted: Mar 31, 2004 - 3:21pm

Geed wrote:

He compared the action to a photocopy machine in a library. "I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a personal copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he said.

The judge is a clueless idiot. If I share a Kazaa-directory, my entire harddrive or use an external webserver - it's all offering to the world, no difference. Additionally copymachines pay a certain copyright-tax here - Kazaa does not.

I wholeheartedly wish the music-industry a swiftly death and am always pleased to see their sales suffering from year to year, but uploading in places like Kazaa without the copyright-holders permission is highly unethical.

It also gives the music-industry a false sense of demand and an easy scapegoat for their losses (which are more because of overpricing and cloned artists),

Posted: Mar 31, 2004 - 2:14pm

Door slammed on Cdn music industry's bid to obtain names of file sharers
at 13:27 on March 31, 2004, EST.

A computer user surfs online. (AP/Ron Wurzer)TORONTO (CP) - In what analysts are calling a "stunning" decision, the Federal Court has ruled against a motion which would have allowed the music industry to begin suing individuals who make music available online.

Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders.

He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law.

"No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings," von Finckenstein wrote in his 28-page ruling. "They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer users via a P2P service."

He compared the action to a photocopy machine in a library. "I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a personal copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he said.

The ruling sent shock waves through the industry and surprised copyright analysts.

"It raises questions of the viability of suing individual users in Canada under current Canadian copyright law," said Michael Geist, a professor at the University of Ottawa specializing in Internet and e-commerce law and technology counsel with the law firm Osler, Hoskin and Harcourt.

Geist, who called the decision "stunning," anticipates it will push the industry to increase its lobbying efforts for copyright reform in Canada.

Last month, the industry association took five Internet service providers to Federal Court, trying to force the companies to hand over the names and addresses of 29 people who allegedly shared hundreds of songs with others using programs like Kazaa last November and December.

The judge denied the recording industry's request, which means the five high-speed Internet providers - Bell Canada, Shaw Communications, Telus Communications, Rogers Cable and Videotron - won't have to divulge their client lists.

Without the names, CRIA can't begin filing lawsuits against 29 John and Jane Does who it alleges are high-volume music traders.

They're currently identifiable only through a numeric Internet protocol address and user handles like Jordana(at)KaZaA.

All the ISPs except Videotron have fought the order. Videotron had agreed to comply because owner Quebecor is also concerned about piracy in other parts of its business, which includes newspapers, television, Internet services and CDs.

ANGELA PACIENZA