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Posted: Oct 15, 2012 - 12:48am

"/Drug use/ does harm a great many other people, but primarily because it's prohibited. There are an enormous number of innocent victims now. You've got the people whose purses are stolen, who are bashed over the head by people trying to get enough money for their next fix. You've got the people killed in the random drug wars. You've got the corruption of the legal establishment. You've got the innocent victims who are taxpayers who have to pay for more and more prisons, and more and more prisoners, and more and more police. You've got the rest of us who don't get decent law enforcement because all the law enforcement officials are busy trying to do the impossible. And, last, but not least, you've got the people of Colombia and Peru and so on. What business do we have destroying and leading to the killing of thousands of people in Colombia because we cannot enforce our own laws? If we could enforce our laws against drugs, there would be no market for these drugs." ~ Milton Friedman




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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 5:31pm

 oldslabsides wrote:

with proper conditioning...

 
biological drones

how could they do that?

this a quickie history lesson, but he goes into detail/depth on his site, if anyone cares to see it




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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 5:26pm

 miamizsun wrote:

i think we need to give a small group of people more power to make up more senseless rules so we can put everyone else in cages

and we'll militarize the enforcement and bring the war home

this way our soldiers won't have to globe trot and get to go home a lot more

sounds like a great plan for the rulers...but i doubt that the masses would fall for it

 
with proper conditioning...
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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 5:21pm

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i think we need to give a small group of people more power to make up more senseless rules so we can put everyone else in cages

and we'll militarize the enforcement and bring the war home

this way our soldiers won't have to globe trot and get to go home a lot more

sounds like a great plan for the rulers...but i doubt that the masses would fall for it
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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 4:31pm

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{#Eek}
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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 2:43pm


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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 6:01am

 miamizsun wrote:

yes i do understand

and just to be clear, when you say them, you are referring to the gop, correct?

my point is that when you have govt involved (esp funding) in any education, no matter how you label it, govt or privitized schools, they still have influence and control

politicizing anything, especially education, is disastrous

this happens with any (forced) monopoly, be it prisons or schools (politicians using ill defined language or labels is misleading, esp for those viewing through political framework)

again, i encourage you to think principle, not politics

regards

 
I do think principle. That is why, if my kids were young now, they would be home schooled. 

But the GOP wants vouchers for schools, which means that those who can afford to pay will go to better schools, leaving the others to lag behind, therefore creating more underserved, desperate young people. 

You believe everything should be private; while I don't believe everything should be public, I believe that everyone should have the same educational opportunities.

It's not that I am against government, it's just not done right. It's all about politics, everything is about politics. You have some idea that humans should be something that they are not. 
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Posted: Aug 16, 2012 - 5:29am

 hippiechick wrote:

You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:

They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well. 

We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.

 
yes i do understand

and just to be clear, when you say them, you are referring to the gop, correct?

my point is that when you have govt involved (esp funding) in any education, no matter how you label it, govt or privitized schools, they still have influence and control

politicizing anything, especially education, is disastrous

this happens with any (forced) monopoly, be it prisons or schools (politicians using ill defined language or labels is misleading, esp for those viewing through political framework)

again, i encourage you to think principle, not politics

regards
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 7:13pm

 bokey wrote:

 That's what has been happening for years.Your average 20's- mid 30's aged  government employee could give a crap about anything but doing whatever it takes to get to the next pay grade.They have been taught that wrong is right.

 Spying on Americans?

 Drone murdering innocent people?

 They have been taught to be soulless,and it will only get worse.

 
I respectfully disagree with some of what you say. You might know that I work as a dentist in a prison and most/ all of the healthcare people are there to serve and make about half of what one would make in private practice.
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 5:24pm


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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:54am

 hippiechick wrote:

You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:

They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well. 

We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.

 
No free thinking here... please join the queue getting on the silver bus.  Handcuffs are not optional.


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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:50am

 hippiechick wrote:

You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:

They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well. 

We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.

 
 That's what has been happening for years.Your average 20's- mid 30's aged  government employee could give a crap about anything but doing whatever it takes to get to the next pay grade.They have been taught that wrong is right.

 Spying on Americans?

 Drone murdering innocent people?

 They have been taught to be soulless,and it will only get worse.


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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:32am

 miamizsun wrote:

maybe i'm mistaken

but i don't think sandusky or any of the others had lobbyists/political connections

that's why they're being caged

much like the word capitalism, privatization, politically, is mis-defined

using the force of the state to distribute money to politically connected friends is wrong no matter how they spin it

regards
 
You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:

They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well. 

We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:10am

 hippiechick wrote:

The privatization of previously government run orgs? 

 
maybe i'm mistaken

but i don't think sandusky or any of the others had lobbyists/political connections

that's why they're being caged

much like the word capitalism, privatization, politically, is mis-defined

using the force of the state to distribute money to politically connected friends is wrong no matter how they spin it

regards

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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:05am

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Don't feed the trolls.

 
Shut up Randy
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:02am

 miamizsun wrote:

they all want control of education/indoctrination via their state power

using the state/political machine to fund your buddies business, be it a school or any other business isn't really privatization and it is horrible

and it certainly isn't a freed market

what does this have to do with the war on drugs?

regards

 
Don't feed the trolls.
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 8:00am

 miamizsun wrote:

they all want control of education/indoctrination via their state power

using the state/political machine to fund your buddies business, be it a school or any other business isn't really privatization

and it certainly isn't a freed market

what does this have to do with the war on drugs?

regards

 
The privatization of previously government run orgs? 
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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 7:59am

 hippiechick wrote:

And the Republicans also want to privatize the schools. What does that look like?

 
they all want control of education/indoctrination via their state power

using the state/political machine to fund your buddies business, be it a school or any other business isn't really privatization and it is horrible

and it certainly isn't a freed market

what does this have to do with the war on drugs?

regards


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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 7:57am

 miamizsun wrote:

yep sir

everyone should watch that video

it's time to stop the insanity

 
They need to finish the work on those strains that have the medicinal quality, so many need, without the high. Wonder what the hypocritical bastids will do then.


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Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 7:54am

 miamizsun wrote:

yep sir

everyone should watch that video

it's time to stop the insanity

 
And the Republicans also want to privatize the schools. What does that look like?
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