"/Drug use/ does harm a great many other people, but primarily because it's prohibited. There are an enormous number of innocent victims now. You've got the people whose purses are stolen, who are bashed over the head by people trying to get enough money for their next fix. You've got the people killed in the random drug wars. You've got the corruption of the legal establishment. You've got the innocent victims who are taxpayers who have to pay for more and more prisons, and more and more prisoners, and more and more police. You've got the rest of us who don't get decent law enforcement because all the law enforcement officials are busy trying to do the impossible. And, last, but not least, you've got the people of Colombia and Peru and so on. What business do we have destroying and leading to the killing of thousands of people in Colombia because we cannot enforce our own laws? If we could enforce our laws against drugs, there would be no market for these drugs." ~ Milton Friedman
hippiechick
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Posted:
Aug 16, 2012 - 6:01am
miamizsun wrote:
yes i do understand
and just to be clear, when you say them, you are referring to the gop, correct?
my point is that when you have govt involved (esp funding) in any education, no matter how you label it, govt or privitized schools, they still have influence and control
politicizing anything, especially education, is disastrous
this happens with any (forced) monopoly, be it prisons or schools (politicians using ill defined language or labels is misleading, esp for those viewing through political framework)
again, i encourage you to think principle, not politics
regards
I do think principle. That is why, if my kids were young now, they would be home schooled.
But the GOP wants vouchers for schools, which means that those who can afford to pay will go to better schools, leaving the others to lag behind, therefore creating more underserved, desperate young people.
You believe everything should be private; while I don't believe everything should be public, I believe that everyone should have the same educational opportunities.
It's not that I am against government, it's just not done right. It's all about politics, everything is about politics. You have some idea that humans should be something that they are not.
You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:
They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well.
We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.
yes i do understand
and just to be clear, when you say them, you are referring to the gop, correct?
my point is that when you have govt involved (esp funding) in any education, no matter how you label it, govt or privitized schools, they still have influence and control
politicizing anything, especially education, is disastrous
this happens with any (forced) monopoly, be it prisons or schools (politicians using ill defined language or labels is misleading, esp for those viewing through political framework)
again, i encourage you to think principle, not politics
That's what has been happening for years.Your average 20's- mid 30's aged government employee could give a crap about anything but doing whatever it takes to get to the next pay grade.They have been taught that wrong is right.
Spying on Americans?
Drone murdering innocent people?
They have been taught to be soulless,and it will only get worse.
I respectfully disagree with some of what you say. You might know that I work as a dentist in a prison and most/ all of the healthcare people are there to serve and make about half of what one would make in private practice.
You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:
They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well.
We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.
No free thinking here... please join the queue getting on the silver bus. Handcuffs are not optional.
bokey
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Posted:
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:50am
hippiechick wrote:
You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:
They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well.
We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.
That's what has been happening for years.Your average 20's- mid 30's aged government employee could give a crap about anything but doing whatever it takes to get to the next pay grade.They have been taught that wrong is right.
Spying on Americans?
Drone murdering innocent people?
They have been taught to be soulless,and it will only get worse.
hippiechick
Did you ever grow anything in the garden of your mind?
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Posted:
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:32am
miamizsun wrote:
maybe i'm mistaken
but i don't think sandusky or any of the others had lobbyists/political connections
that's why they're being caged
much like the word capitalism, privatization, politically, is mis-defined
using the force of the state to distribute money to politically connected friends is wrong no matter how they spin it
regards
You are missing the point. I am leaving, but I will try to summarize:
They will use the schools for indoctrination, and the prisons for those who don't indoctrinate well.
We already keep people locked up in inhumane conditions in super max prisons.
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Posted:
Aug 15, 2012 - 7:57am
miamizsun wrote:
yep sir
everyone should watch that video
it's time to stop the insanity
They need to finish the work on those strains that have the medicinal quality, so many need, without the high. Wonder what the hypocritical bastids will do then.
hippiechick
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Posted:
Aug 15, 2012 - 7:54am
miamizsun wrote:
yep sir
everyone should watch that video
it's time to stop the insanity
And the Republicans also want to privatize the schools. What does that look like?