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Posted: May 17, 2013 - 8:42pm

JrzyTmata wrote:

All my love,

Damien

Posted: May 17, 2013 - 5:05pm

JrzyTmata wrote:

Good one - I laughed at that.

Posted: May 17, 2013 - 4:52pm

Posted: May 16, 2013 - 5:02pm

JrzyTmata wrote:

kettle/black

what? somebody has to enforce the rules.

Posted: May 16, 2013 - 4:45pm

buzz wrote:

JrzyTmata wrote:

you cant post in here. you dont have any kids.

kettle/black

Posted: May 16, 2013 - 4:43pm

JrzyTmata wrote:

you cant post in here. you dont have any kids.

Posted: May 16, 2013 - 4:16pm

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 12:00pm

MrsHobieJoe wrote:

Sorry for the delayed response, I've got a big transaction at the moment and its keeping me busy or frying my mind most of the time.

On the messenger point i was weirded out maybe a little like Scott. I'm better at reading an article actually than listening to someone, I'm an analytical type and prefer a dispassionate point of view so stats are useful. As for the question with a question point, I'm just chatting here, it's not debating school ( is it?!).

No it's not, not at all. It has been wonderfully civilized though, lately.

The wife is watching the vid and made it half way through and had to stop. She will finish it though she says. She might pop in on this later. I'll say for me to sit through an hour of very dry material all at once wasn't easy, but I'm glad I did. Never heard of the guy before, its that the topic is very interesting as a parent and being concerned about the future. I give it weight because it was Jeff who brought it up and he is not one who takes these things lightly nor deals in inflamatory sources imo.

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 10:49am

kurtster wrote:

Interesting results so far. Men seem take it one way and women seem take it another way. 100% so far.

So is it the message or the messenger ?

What would the women say if the messenger were say, Hillary Clinton ? Would that make any difference ?

I will be the first to admit that if it was Nancy Pelosi, I would not give it the attention that I did. But Hillary ? I would have to give it serious consideration and still probably feel the same way at the end.

Sorry for the delayed response, I've got a big transaction at the moment and its keeping me busy or frying my mind most of the time.

On the messenger point i was weirded out maybe a little like Scott. I'm better at reading an article actually than listening to someone, I'm an analytical type and prefer a dispassionate point of view so stats are useful. As for the question with a question point, I'm just chatting here, it's not debating school ( is it?!).

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 7:34am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I can't sit through his videos but for different reasons than you. But no, even with my feelers up I couldn't detect anything like what you're getting. He's just laying out the numbers, I think. I guess calling the "Welfare State" the "Single Mom State" was a little flagrant, but assuming his numbers are correct, it's pretty interesting. Unfortunately, I've never made it to the end of any of his videos. He weirds me out. Maybe I'll give this one a try tho, because I want to see how he ties it all together.

my introduction was through peaceful parenting ( i initially had similar feelings as you)

please forget about the guy, it could be anyone speaking

the question for me was "is it true?"

we've all been conditioned to reject principled thinking

we certainly don't apply morality and ethics (our culture) equally to everyone everywhere

we've been taught to create exceptions and/or accept exceptions through conditioning

principled thought exposes that

in this case state sponsored violence/aggression towards children

an unintended consequence/mutation of the welfare system

regards

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 6:15am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I can't sit through his videos but for different reasons than you. But no, even with my feelers up I couldn't detect anything like what you're getting. He's just laying out the numbers, I think. I guess calling the "Welfare State" the "Single Mom State" was a little flagrant, but assuming his numbers are correct, it's pretty interesting. Unfortunately, I've never made it to the end of any of his videos. He weirds me out. Maybe I'll give this one a try tho, because I want to see how he ties it all together.

Thats about how I saw it too.

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 6:07am

MrsHobieJoe wrote:

maybe an empirical test is in order. Were any of the women here able to listen to him without feeling violent?!

I can't sit through his videos but for different reasons than you. But no, even with my feelers up I couldn't detect anything like what you're getting. He's just laying out the numbers, I think. I guess calling the "Welfare State" the "Single Mom State" was a little flagrant, but assuming his numbers are correct, it's pretty interesting. Unfortunately, I've never made it to the end of any of his videos. He weirds me out. Maybe I'll give this one a try tho, because I want to see how he ties it all together.

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 3:58am

MrsHobieJoe wrote:

maybe an empirical test is in order. Were any of the women here able to listen to him without feeling violent?!

Interesting results so far. Men seem take it one way and women seem take it another way. 100% so far.

So is it the message or the messenger ?

What would the women say if the messenger were say, Hillary Clinton ? Would that make any difference ?

I will be the first to admit that if it was Nancy Pelosi, I would not give it the attention that I did. But Hillary ? I would have to give it serious consideration and still probably feel the same way at the end.

Posted: May 8, 2013 - 3:02am

MrsHobieJoe wrote:

maybe an empirical test is in order. Were any of the women here able to listen to him without feeling violent?!

Not this one.

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 6:25pm

miamizsun wrote:

maybe we could have a productive conversation regarding parents and children or parent and children

an attempt to look at the data/stats

bump for the late arrivers to this discussion.

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 4:35pm

I am a single mom of 2 kids, one of whom has significant disabilites. I think in general our society, our government, our communities need to do A LOT more to support all kinds of families.

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 2:18pm

sirdroseph wrote:

Check out the vid I posted in Guns, addresses this somewhat. This guy is really good, has been posting gun control vids for a couple of years or so. Don't know when the NRA discovered him, but they need to hire this dude as President he is a much better communicator than the clowns they currently have speaking for them. {#Rolleyes}

Excellent and spot on.

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 2:07pm

kurtster wrote:

You did answer a question with a question ... just saying.

But a good question as well. I would like to see the answers to both questions.

Is it the message or the messenger ?

Check out the vid I posted in Guns, addresses this somewhat. This guy is really good, has been posting gun control vids for a couple of years or so. Don't know when the NRA discovered him, but they need to hire this dude as President he is a much better communicator than the clowns they currently have speaking for them. {#Rolleyes}

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 2:03pm

MrsHobieJoe wrote:

maybe an empirical test is in order. Were any of the women here able to listen to him without feeling violent?!

You did answer a question with a question ... just saying.

But a good question as well. I would like to see the answers to both questions.

Is it the message or the messenger ?

Posted: May 7, 2013 - 1:56pm

kurtster wrote:

That is what I took away from it. He did not condemn anyone for their situations or realities, he just laid them out. The only causation I took away from it was in regards to the notion of social engineering. I have not seen anyone here condemn single parenting, just comments that it is not the best way to raise a child.

I think he lays out a strong case of identifying the realities involved. The first step in solving any problem is identifying it and agreeing on it.
For those who do not see SPH as a problem, what makes it a good thing ?

maybe an empirical test is in order. Were any of the women here able to listen to him without feeling violent?!