It's not that the playing is technically great.It's coming up with the playing in the first place.This was done 35 years ago.Believe it or not back then there wasn't AN ENTIRE GENERATION of guitar players that had cut their chops on Neil songs.

So yes,you could probably play this just like any other guitar player.That's because most guitar players have spent countless hours playing the mindless Neil notes and chords.

You now why they are mindless?Because he found the ones that fit out minds best and made us feel good.It takes no effort because it's connected to us.

And wouldn't it suck to be a guitar player if there had never been a Neil?He showed us great songs don't have to be the musical equivalent of a supermodel.3 chord songs and a one string lead and a big fucking heart is enough sometimes.

Hopefully Saul would not be inspired by this bit of Drivel to say the least.......

I can't stand Joe Satriani. But, this is good... very good. It actually seems to have some feeling backing that obvious technical ability. A worthy cover.

The same long boring song he always does. They are all the same!

Does this sound like Weird Al to anyone else? (Where they sing "There'll be food on the table tonight")

Thrown under the bus of following Let It Be

Forgive ME if this sounds rough.... she does try to sound like Billie Holliday, I agree. But anyone who really listens to Billie and knows her stuff knows that the emotion and raw quality of Billie is just NOT in this woman's voice. Madeleine uses the breath-ee technique, but she does not come close to the emoting and realness of who Billie Holliday was.
of course this is my HO
thanx

Not sure how your little story is supposed to make us think that socialist medicine is so good. I personally would rather pay a bit and get to see a doctor sometime before I died rather than sit on a sidewalk all night waiting for someone to see me. Thanks for pointing out the ineptitudes of socialism.

fucking amazing song. Both versions. You guys who gave it a one rating should open your minds and your hearts and the world wouldn't be such a fucked up place. Make a place for someone else in the world, man.

...too many haters out there and it must be said that Bob had more love for his fellow beings in his cancerous toe than the rest of you haters will ever have combined...

Well it's one thing to say "It's not my taste" and quite another to label guitar genius as "elevator music".

If I were to sip a glass of champagne from a bottle that was universally regarded by wine experts as the essence of excellence and call it "nothing but expensive kool aid" then I would be regarded as a fool who wasn't knowledgeable enough about champagne to be drinking it in the first place.

In retrospect I should have said "I fell sorry for you". Anyone who can listen to this song and have no appreciation for it is really missing out on what guitar virtuosity is all about.

I didn't know Prof. Hawking had such a nice singing voice.

Of the 452 who've rated this song, one lonely person has given it a 1. I wonder what that says about them?

I shouldn't even read these Elvis Costello song comments anymore because of the overabundance of dolts who predictably think Elvis Costello can't "sing". Terribly off-putting.

Elvis Costello rules.

Pompous, overblown and self important.

amazing track. I listened to some of the other bad+ covers after I heard this on RP the last time. IMHO this is far and away their best track

it's rather relaxing, none of us are perfect. Yet it's amazing how we feel the need to write that others (and their music) are 'certainly not'

Perhaps the major complainers should write and perform their own music and have it critiqued?

I used to think that you were a clever, irreverent and witty critic that didn't follow the crowd.

Now I just think you are just another one of the mindless sheeple who lets someone think for him and pretends to be a clever, irreverent and witty critic....

too poppy for RP.

Sure I can. Having a different religion doesn't make one wicked, unless, of course, it interferes with the propagation of someone else's religion. That's why I said she was misunderstood. I have no idea if the priest killings are true or just propaganda, but Joshua is said to have slain the men, women and children of Canaan and is treated as a hero. History depends on which side wins and who lives to tell the tale. And if you think women are treated fairly in the Bible (they don't call Judaism and Christianity patriarchal religions for nothing) then I have a chunk of the Colossus of Rhodes I'd like to sell you.

Belting this song out + friend to help = sheer awesomenificence.

Nice to see the word "wanker" catching on in the States.

which plague is glittering clouds?

Get "Singles", and you'll be hooked. I'll lend it to you if you like.

Friday Night Lights is not only about football but ALSO has hours-long prog rock? Doubly glad I missed it.

Oops. I stumbled in to the vandal and ploafmaster forum. (backing away)

Did we tap into some sort of personal insecurity of yours? I've re-read my comments and can't find any personal insult directed toward you. I think that you can dish out the clever comments but you can't take them.

This thread was supposed to be a debate based upon my dislike for suffyawn, you've personalized it and turned it into a discussion about you.

grow up

The problem is that #2 never says "I hate this."
#2 says, "This sucks."
or "This is overrated," or "I hit mute. Make this crap stop!"

Now they're not commenting on THEIR opinion. They're commenting on YOUR opinion.

And that is what causes #3 to rightfully tell #2 to stuff it.
Just check the comments every time an REM or U2 song comes on! It's one thing to say, "I don't really like them," and it's another thing to tell everyone else that "they suck hard and you guys who like them are dupes."

but, I agree, that there seems to be more "hate" lately, which is very much against the spirit of RP.

On the other hand, someone voted this song a 1....so very sad.

TJ

When this album was released, it was an EVENT of the first magnitude. The local rock station in Los Angeles cancelled all of their programming and commercials and played this from beginning to end twice through. This album deserved that kind of attention, and this song was the fitting coda. No matter age, gender, or generational differences - this is a ten as defined here.

Yuck. This is among their best songs, and it still stinks.

...(Oh, and Crowhog2000? Don't despair. American Idol will be back on soon and you can stop listening to RP and can enjoy the sort of bland, over-hyped lounge singing I imagine you find more appealing.)

He ain't even in the same playing field as Beck. or Rory Gallager or Buchanan, Adrian Belew, etc.
On any given Saturday in my local Guitar Center there are kids who are are 14 who are shredding and wankering as good as Joe Even when he trys to be "soulful", just misses the mark.

I think that it is you who might be confused. Since you weren't at the festival, you couldn't possibly know that the crowd there was about as far from top-40 as they could be. They were savvy enough to recognize a poseur when they saw one.

Objectivity? What would that be like? Would that be like your consistent attempts to legitimize the pathetic excuse for music suffyawn is busily foisting onto a vapid audience of spongeheads?

You're rapidly becoming a suffyawn apologist. You need to flush out your headgear and realize that the sun neither rises nor sets on suffyawn. The guy is a trendy hack and his 15 minutes will be over soon. Enjoy it while you can.

Nobody can honestly tell me they like this crap apart from their memories of hours spent high and kicking the hacky around.

I love the music, never have kicked a hacky and my three boys have me so busy living and creating new memories, I don't have a moment to waste.

Crap? What have you written and recorded that has moved millions? I would love to listen to it.

These guys aren't moping and mumbling! Quick, True Artistes, mount your emo haircuts and ride with me to slay the melody!

yeah we get it. they are mixed up with lots of fades. this dog and pony show is a lame rehash for sucker$$$ hahaha...

By the way, I wasn’t the only one who was bored, hundreds of us left after 2-3 songs to go watch Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks on the Wookie stage. We returned to see Iron & Wine only after suffyawn limped off the main stage.

Anybody else hear 'Tusk' at the beginning of this song?

yes, nice. Like a folkier take on Michael Hedges.

...even so, anyone having pity on you is quite appropriate.

So great! Just bumped from a 7 to an 8!

Don't believe everything you read in the Bible, especially when it pertains to women. Check rah's post below for another view.

another snide remark from "90% of everything is crap".

I've seen him live, I've purchased and repeatedly listened to two suffyawn CDs (Illinoise & Greetings from Michigan: The Great Lakes State); his music is contrived, weak, and thin. His live performance was pretentious and filled with a large number of boring self gratifying moments.

I don't like suffyawn and I humbly disagree with you.

Does he have anything else to offer other than songs where the meter is exactly the same? After ten bars or so, you can figure out the whole song, and from that, the whole album. One song blends in to another. No contrast, no complexity. Nothing.

"Seven Days" from Sting

Hope this helps...

sounds like Bill Evans on piano, is it?

Complex? Please. Saying suffyawn's music is complex is like saying Bartók or Tchaikovsky are simple.

Suffyawn's studio recording is the epitome of complexity for complexity's sake, but his song writing is definitely simple and weak.

Overrated and over-hyped.

Listen to the lyrics...no, not the chorus, the verse...and maybe you will 'see the light'.

And maybe you will be blessed with his 'Redemption Song'.

Well, there is NO SUCH THING as a bad Smith's album. So to start, I would suggest going with "Louder Than Bombs." It is a good sampling of their more commercial songs and at 20+ tracks, you will get a great feel for the Smith's body of work. Going further, the deeper you dive the better it gets, so happy hunting!

As a general rule, armchair experts don't come down too hard on Herbert von Karajan. It's a bit like saying Lawrence Olivier can't act.

Good lord, some of the snobbery around this place never fails to astound me! Considering the dire condition that the classical recording industry is in these days, you think some people would be happy that a station like RP is even exposing people to the classics! But no, one of the "Joe Pro" snobs has to chime in even for this. I guarantee you, 99.99% of the people here (myself included) can't tell and don't give a damn if you somehow consider it "poorly conducted." I'm just happy that a little Beethoven snuck into my day.

Heard one blues song, heard them all. Heard one rock song, heard them all. Heard one triphop song... etc.

Ploaf ! There's a first time for everything...

God, this is Almighty !

TEN. No matter what the Santana anti-fan club says.

Nice to have a Christmas album from a good musician. Not sure that this is the best track on it though!

hmmm, we all have our vices. plus have you considered that without the influence of mind altering substances he may not have created such powerful music?

...And thus was begun the Radio Paradise Fund for Humanitarian Support and Counseling of Physicsgenius' offspring...

Using the song comment system to comment on songs: Bad
Using the song comment system to comment on other users: OK

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Wow...I like this so much better than the original!

You had to look?

mysteryplane wrote:

Didn't your mother tell you a million times not to exaggerate?

Heh, I like to exaggerate sometimes to get amusing reactions out of people. Looks like it worked.

Seriously though, we do need more love in this world. "All you need is love..."

Wow! A song that he really likes? This must be a first, and hopefully not his last positive comment.

Aweful !

I want to give this a 10, especially for the line "fingernails that shine like justice" (so brill), but I can't quite put it in the same category with Moonlight Sonata et al. The ratings should go to 11.

I think I would actually like Coldplay a lot if Aimee Mann were the singer. I've always really liked their instrumentation, but Chris Martin's voice just doesn't appeal to me.

Lets see,
overplayed,
movie theme,
cliche'
commercialized,
sappy,
from the 80's,
And I still absolutely LOVE it.
A solid 9, and some days, a 10.
Nothing can destroy a really great song.

I do believe that's a harmonium - an acoustic keyboard reed instrument (vaguely related to the accordion, though with pedals rather than a squeeze box). It's commonly used in Indian folk music, & some gypsy & Eastern European music. Lovely sound, I've always thought. Wikipedia: click here.

the part about winston churchill in drag makes me think beck

Holy crap I can't stand 99% of his music, and this song is definately in that grouping. From his whiney voice to the "novice in a practice room" guitar "solo" that sounds confused and meandering, this song makes me prefer his work with Crosby, Stills, and Nash even more.

Yeah. There's a big drop between marginal and sucko barfo.

Sure is

Easy 7!

You can measure frequency, as it is the objective correlate of the subjective pitch.

kakistocracy: government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.


Describes our present situation pretty damn well.

Whatsamatter man? The truth hurt...?

...You'd think people drawn to eclectic non-mainstream music would have an ounce of tolerance for a vocal style that doesn't fit their narrow parameters for "good"...

Let me rephrase then. Your crusade to be the hero of the stupid & negative does not impress me. How's that ? And to what end is it that you choose to sanction negativity ? Remember that these fools that you're championing were not born stupid. They choose to be stupid. Remember too that what we witness today on a local & global level is being sanctioned by stupidity. Champion the poor, the bombed out civilians, the Aids orphans, the democratically elected South American leaders soon to be whacked by US hit squads, the depleted rainforests, Cindy Sheehan but quit making excuses for the terminally stupid. It only encourages them. Otherwise you're alright. Just a little misguided.

...Everything you & he stand for you can justify which does not impress me in the least....

Pity this poor ...person. He/she/it has a hole in its soul....

Actually, it is stupid. You get well thought out opinions based on sober observations & experiences & then you get stupid opinions based on redneck instinctual locked-down reactionism. I just happen to know the difference....

"in harmony with each other" != "on key"

Oi, its STUPID ! S...T...U...P...I...D...STUPID ! Got that ?

Yeah, but you obviously haven't seen all the anti jazz comments PG makes on ALL the jazz comment boards.
What caught my eye was the comment Posted: Sep 12, 2006 and the fact that PG is also refering to one of MY posts Posted: Feb 19, 2006 by the way, I just chose this one to reply as I happen to have a couple of minutes on my hands at the moment. (You seem to have loads of spare time. Am I right?)

No. But you need to have it explained, as your posts clearly show you haven't the slightest idea.

This argument remains bogus. There are plenty of highly popular and frequently played artists who elicit no backlash whatsover. They consistenty get 8s, 9s and 10s from RP listeners. The backlash occurs against artists of marginal appeal who are played with frequency. If it doesn't appeal to me and I hear it a lot -- Sufferyawn being the case in point -- I grow annoyed. If you think this music would appeal to everyone if only they could just open their minds and hear it in a vaccuum of outside information, you're nuts. Sufferyawn ain't for everyone. His sound is slight, precious and calculated. To me it rings both false and pretentious. I would not like it in a box. I would not like it with a fox.

Pretentious: making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction

You again...

So, you let your intellect overwrite your compassion. Your education taught you to ignore your inner voice. Your brain overwrites your heart. You don't think. You act on instinct...yeah, that's really damn clever. Fool....

In the manner that one's ability to decipher lyrics appropriately equates to one's abilty to be stupid.

I arrived at that conclusion through living.

Amen.

Debussy and other classics are very welcome, but for all the rap and hip-hop , there is commercial, FM radio. No thanks.

Judging by the other places I've found you online you DEFINITELY peaked in high school...

My favorite high-energy Bob Marley tune. A hundred bucks to anyone who can tell me what time this tune is in. We used to cover this song, and I'm not sure how we got through it without counting, but we did. One Love, everybody. www.myspace.com/treehouseonline

Not an insult, an observation. There is a difference between taste and knowledge. I can acknowledge talent and like it or not like it, that's taste. To make a blanket statement by someone who hasn't taking the time to listen or experience an artist live is pointless.

Spoken like a true idiot.

I actually disagree. I agree people are allowed to not like great influential bands like the Beatles. Even I don't like some great bands. However, to rate a band as influential and great as the beatles a 1 is just plain stupid. I could see if it was wham or the culture club with no good influence on music, but a band that every other band has been influenced by is just again.....stupid.

Could he be any more over rated?

Yeah, but this came first.

Audacious? Its a more detailed, grounded, and passionful comment than most of the negative screeds here. What's wrong with that?

This is not my favorite Stones tune by any means, but I certainly understand where NewFee is coming from.

Pot, meet kettle.

never a truer statement has been made:
"Everbody knows, the world is full of stupid people"

Turn it off - easy enough. Just like the TV.

Whatever, mate ...

He says "If they can't find a way to help her" then says "If they can't find a way to help, they can go to hell."

Too bad your musical taste isn't mature enough to understand creative lyrics when they are expressed.

I understand people not liking Tom at first. But Got-dammit! Clue in!

Ah, whatever, I guess... this album is my favourite of his and I don't give a shit what people have to say about it. I mean, come on! If you can't get past his voice, at least recognize that he writes fantastic songs. Picture this song with some harmonies!!!!

All you americans seem to dislike the wrong Bush.

I daresay a good case could be made for excessive hyperbole as a major crime, too.

Dude, if not for for the French, there would be no
french fries, french vanilla, french silk pie, or french kisses!

french name.....can't get into this....

Pardon? No, I don't think ploaf actually meant that. JW rules in many universes. Excellent, for sure.

The first part of song reminds me vaguely of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Every verse is a hyperbole. Listen to the lyrics before picking out one line out of context

I've heard a rumor that he's collaborating with the String Cheese Incident. The band will be called the Iron, Wine and Cheese Incident.

-= Prop Music =-

Blue Man Group is most noted for wielding the trademark Sledge-O-Matic. they shower audiences with the pulverized remains of apples, orange, lettuce, cottage cheese, pound cakes, Big Macs and of course,terribly generic music. No show can end without the Watermelon Finale. Show-goers turn up already wearing plastic raincoats, goggles, sunglasses, umbrellas and windshield wipers and refer to the front of the theater as Death Row.

Seems like he's trying to show off all his styles and talents in one track. He must be v.young. He still hasn't learned to keep it simple and on one track. All good guitarists seem to go through a stage like this early in their careers.

That's pretty cool that they let the counter workers at McDonalds listen to Radio Paradise.

I loathe this song with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns.

Insanely great segue from U2-The Fly to this...

I have not heard many better segues that this one. Great job Bill!

This reminds me of something I recently heard - music by Erik Mongrain. I highly recommend it too. Perhaps its been played on RP already? Either way - both amazing! :)

some real Michael Hedges influences here..very nice indeed.

Sounds like another solid effort, quick on the heels of Guero -- great album.

A nice tribute to a much-maligned, misunderstood woman.

God, this is BAD...

physicsgenius is such a faggot.
'Voodoo Child' rated a 1??
. . . in fact, everything good (not just good based on personal opinion, rather based on skill, talent, and passion as compared to music and musicians as a whole) - all 1.

Dude, get off here if you hate everything.
hate breeds hate.
. . . more so, go produce an album for me . . . no, for all of us . . . and submit it, so we can finally experience what music is suppose to be . . . cause apparently jimi hendrix didn't know what he was doing.

Sounds a lot like Beth Orton. That's not a bad thing.

Except what he said was that he thought the song lyrics betray a lack of ideas, and they don't make sense. That is not the same as saying I just don't like the song or the lyrics. And, the countering opinion -- for one who finds the lyrics meaningful-- would have to be that the holder of the first opinion must not understand the meaning of the lyrics. Totally appropriate in this context, I would say.

Which is another way of saying, ""I'm a genius, I don't understand this, it's therefore crap.''

I suggest canning all the squirrels you must have blended by now, and selling them as Ploafmaster's Squirrel Puree®.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I hear this song every few days...I STILL HATE IT.

The poorly done, obviously sythetic wind and brass instruments sound like a cheap TV show sound track.

...music isn't about just making a few nice sounds over and over again. Pop song construction may not be brain surgery, but it's amazing how few pop musicians are truly gifted in it.

Gnarles Barkley does a pretty cool version of this song.

Those who want great voices can listen to Britney Spears and Taylor Hicks.

If you are an iTunes user, and you've ripped this album from your CD, make sure to upgrade to iTunes 7 and use the new gapless playback option.

Why don't you put your Celine Dion CD in the player and shut your trap?

I mean there is little practical difference between the two. I suppose one can argue that a piece of "music" with no melody or rhythm (leaving what exactly?) can be executed with great technical skill, but what would be the point of that? It would be like reelecting Bush because he implements brain-dead conservative policies that hurt America well--it doesn't matter if he does it well or not because we don't want it done.

The Kenny G of electric Guitar. Sorry.

sir, would you mind supplying some context with your objection?

I believe the reference is ". . . marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious."

if so, then I too believe this applies to sufyawn stevens.

If this song is sacred to you, to him, to me and many others, that probably means this song has to be considered as being, at least, a well constructed artistic product.People has to right to dislike something; what I deplore here, is when someone treats a product with a “Sucko-Barfo” rate just because he don't get it.
I wonder who's the most dictating then?

I concur wholeheartedly. Seven people, as of this date, have given this song a "1"...un-friggin-believable...

This is the Muzak on the elevator to Hell.

not too many people left who will get this right away anymore...

OK, he's pretentious.

Sounded pretty interesting before the singing started. Now it's just tedious and pretentious.

Weird comments here.

This song, and a scant few others, *is* rock and roll. I think if you don't like this, you simply aren't open to rock music and lyrics on their own merit and understanding their context. Something is blocking your ability to judge music by the Rolling Stones; their image, longevity, other people raving on too much about them, a bad trip; I don't know what.

But this song will long outlive the 20 songs played before it and the 20 played after it, whatever the hell those other songs are.

How about people who have thought about the song and still think it's pretentious pablum?

Interesting how some people focus on the superficial, his voice, and not the soul behind the words. His voice is what makes Tom Waits...Tom Waits, and I for one appreciate his uniqueness.

Here we go with another popular bashing band. First REM, then the Counting Crows, now Coldplay. For all you negative bashing morons out there have a great day! I love almost all music, all periods, all genres, and that I don't like I simply push away. There is simply so much great music out there that to comment on the bad stuff says so very little about us.
If you don't like it, rate it and maybe Bill will pull it based on ratings. Not by nasty reviews.

Sufjan Stevens = Sufjan Yawn

Seriously, this guy is boring, self-indulgent, depressing... why does he get so much airplay? I generally enjoy pretty much everything on RP. I play it while I work. But when this guy comes on (which seems to be on a regular basis lately) I switch over to something else. Shame.

Is there anyone out there who actually likes this guy??

Well, shoot. I'm a big Sufjan fan, but if this is supposed to be the best song on the lastest album, I'll have to think twice about buying it. Some things are best left buried, I guess.

Interesting, but African Holocasut? Technically, a Holocasut can only happen to Jewish people.

I'm not sure that being ultra-derivative and unoriginal is praise...

...although one could make the argument that with this album he's trying to cash off of illinoise's success...

Guess that clears up the issue of whether it's the dill or the vinegar you don't like.

Or maybe it's both.


To the point though, your sense of music appreciation hasn't matured if you can't even begin to explain what you don't like about a song. I'm not saying you're immature, I'm just saying you have room for growth here, if you ever choose to pursue it.

I'm guessing that if you actually cared to give it enough thought, you could discover something about what it is you don't like. Even if you couldn't find the perfect words to explain it.

This is the worst song on RP. I wish there were a zero or perhaps a negative rating, so I could give it to this song. Awful in every possible sense.

Yeah, being one of the best songwriters to come out of the 90's is so insignificant!

Come on, It's just Dylan being clever as hell again; relax and enjoy - we've all been there, haven't we?

Perhaps its more of an issue of (click here)?

(p.s. I'm referring to persons who perpetually regards many female voices as "annoying" and "whiney.")

well then, go listen to some comercial radio station.
they usually play a lot of madonna

Oh dear(s)! This is terrible. Obnoxiously overblown and exaggerated.

Yes, I knew that, having lived in Chicago for 20-some years. But that one reference makes this song about Chicago and Illinois? This is sort of what I do not get. The theme is songs about Illinois, but some of them really are not about Illinois except in a very peripheral way. But for the one reference you note, the story related in this song could have taken place anywhere.

Wow, RP won't play any decent hip hop , but will play Gerardo? Cue up Rico Suave...

And to those who will unequivocally claim there is no such thing as decent hip hop, you can suck it.

Possibly so, but that's why I appreciate it so much that he has such a great band and lets them play as well. As opposed to guys like Satriani or Vai that don't seem to let any of their bandmembers get in the way of their soloing.

Actually, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, I believe that is an excerpt taken from Debussy's "Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune (Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun)"

Um, I hate to point out the obvious, but isn't this the format of just about every freakin' pop song in the world? I don't think this is reason enough to discount a song, or even a band.

Sufyawn sings "I made a lot of mistakes"..
Agreed.

Well, pretentiousness, as I understand it, is someone or something (i.e. a work of music, in this case) pretending to have more merit or value than they actually have. I.e. making a show of it.

I find Sufjan Stevens' music to be too contrived and "clever" for its own good. And this is reflected in the attention-grabbing track titles, which suggest more than what the music really is about. What's the big fuss about his music, anyway? Some modesty might be in order here, but, no, Sufjan is planning 50 more albums for the remaining states. (Yeah, right!)

That's just my opinion of course. Hope you people enjoy the track.

i am presumption???

and no i'm not presumptuous, just recognizing the trend and pointing out that using such terms as "pretentious" about a song are probably a weak attempt at sounding profound and knowledgeable.

Following on from Beatles-Eleanor Rigby, can it get any better!?? I doubt it.

All music has its place. Try not to be ignorant your whole life

Mediocreness posing as cleverness. Yeah, like you said, pretentious.

I can't stand the lack of emotion in the lyrics....

I consider rap (or hip-hop or whatever it's called now) nothing more than poetry to a beat.
Add to that a beat made up of electronic drumbeats somebody put together on a computer.

Requires no musical ability whatsoever, therefore, it is not music.

Is true rap not far behind?

sounds like a million other songs with a little harpischord thrown in - not worth a mute, but not worth a purchase, either

The volume on this song seems to be permantly stuck on "suck." Scott Sapp sings as well as he drinks and acts in pornos, i.e. not well. Not well at all.

Oh no! This is sure to ellicit a response from ploafmaster. I've got the visual on the tin ears and the head made of sawdust. I like it. :)

So all you, um, people who gave this song a 10 - if I abstain from statements of an ad hominem nature, will you?

The title sounds like maybe someone's taken their transubstantiation a little too far ...

Yes, but what does that story have to do with Illinois other than the one reference to the death having occurred on what would have been Casimir Pulaski Day in Chicago?

See, the act of "belittling" is a poster's right to offer yet another opinion. I agree with you, personal attacks are vile and juvenile. However, when someone is passionate about their appreciation for an artist, the words may seem harsh and akin to a direct assault on that other person. Not always so.

That said, this whole taste issue is complex. If all opinions are equal, then what is the baseline for quality? I've riffed on this elsewhere so I won't go off on a tear, but, certain pieces of music/bodies of work are of a quality that is just indisputable, whether you "like" it or not. Who decides what is quality, who are the tastemakers? Those who have been exposed to large quantities of works, those who know their art form backward and forward, those who break convention.

Many posters, for example, deride Miles Davis, but to deny that his music is genius is just ignorance, regardless of whether or not the listeners ears are tickled. Ergo, I believe it is my right to point that out the next time someone says his trumpet playing is dissonant, piercing noise.

And by "funniest", you mean "kind of funny", and by "in a long time", you mean in the last 5 or 10 minutes. I hope.

or,

Ploafmaster thought bubble: "Look at me. I can disagree with some smart-ass negative comment about a song I like and I'm still open-minded enough to laugh at it! Dagnabbit, I have to give myself a 10." :)

Is Indiana next? Connect the dots: Michigan, Illinois, Indiana!!!!

A comment of which Sgt. Joe Friday would've been proud. Well done, cap'n!

Re: the Song Comments board-I imagine that we all at times feel like the benign Irish cop walking his beat; most of the time things are peaceful, but every once in a while you have to beat someone over the head.

Because you're 60 years old :(

Everyone who says Neil can't sing can kiss my

One has the CHOICE of turning a song off. It is overplayed if you allow it to be.

it was a valid opinion. a lot of singing lacks passion some songs deserve. let it go.

Yes! Pompous is the word! This kind of self-involved egotistical pretentious pop is what helped make pop music of the 70s and 80s such jokes, musically.

No listener comments on this song yet.
Why not be the first?

Good groovin music for the digital workplace. This could go for fifteen minutes and I wouldn't mind.

Love Beth's voice and her tunes!

Yes, but Beck produces this exactly without synths or special effects...or picks. Just his hands and a guitar. Amazing!

Neil Young cannot be put into any category - the man has produced more exceptional music than you've every dreamed of.. Have you written or sang anything worth recordin?

I submit:

Unless you can do better, it doesn't make sense to criticize.

It's so sad how many 1's there are for this song. Those people must be Bush war mongers.

I HATE Rush. When did this turn into a classic rock station?

...I don't understand why anyone not familiar with Illinois would care about this album.

Great Band, Like the song and Album, awesome musicians. Check out some of their live stuff.

Jesus, a little thinned skinned? Not a personal attack, just pointing out that the tune is relatively new. I find the song poignant and that is what I stated. I don't think I should have to append all my comments with "In my opinion" because if I wrote it, obviously it's my opinion. So shove your "Ah yes, there it is..." you arrogant blow-hard.

I rather liked "Kiss Me." Not every song is, or should be, a two-chord rap-metal rant against globalization, SUVs, and running water, with lyrics by Noam Chomsky.

Stevie wrote the song for Jeff but when he finished it he decided to keep it for himself and later wrote "Thelonious" for Jeff to record.

the day i start to consider real human emotion and raw soul to be boring, is the day i stop listening to Radio Paradise and the Blues. If you can detatch yourself from the passion that fuels both the Blues and essense of human beings, what do you have left? surely nothing i would find interesting.

maybe you should give your local Top 40 fm station a try. plenty of lifeless, rootless "music" there.

Yes, please bring on the fire. Tell me how great the Beatles are. That's all well and good. But IMHO, this song simply sucks.

wow

That's it. I've had just about enough of this mindless drivel. This song is void of substance and just plain hurts my ears.

I don't care for the Stones at all but this one is kind of nice.

I absolutely loathe the Rolling Stones and think Mick is possibly the ugliest, least talented famous person ever ... however, I likey this one song

This is an easy fix. Go with Sweet Pickles from now on. Your welcome.

the most pathetic cover ever

A look at your list of "1"s makes one suspect who the real moron may be.

Stoopid Sony BMG -- they'd have my money already if it wasn't for their DRM carp...

yeah i know im replying to my own comment and thats lame and all, but also wanted to point out that PGs ratings distribution is heavily skewed on the low side. This implies that he doesnt like most of the music that RP plays, which begs to question, why does he keep listening? Or, he just likes to put music down because he doesnt get it and therefore he goes out of his way to vote negatively in an attempt to get people like me to talk shit about him for attention.Ploafmaster - its kind of like how you vote down any Reggae song because youre ignorant.

I like this song a lot, but . . .

Just saw "Garden State" last night (things take me forever). Talk about "product placement"! Does Zach Braff have a close personal relationship with somebody connected to the band?

I mean, jeez, it's not just on the soundtrack; Natalie Portman hands him the headphones and says "It's the Shins, you have to listen to this song, it will change your life..." I'm surprised she doesn't say "If I was, like, watching a movie or something, I would like stop immediately and go out and buy this CD."

ummm i dont know i just read over some comments that PG made on other songs. Almost everything he says is pretty ignorant... And he has no taste in music. Look at the songs he gives 1 ratings.

Musical taste: paltry
Attitude: Abhorrently ignorant

You know what? I don't care.

Release date?

Why are many of the release dates wrong on the album info page?

When I think of the songs I've submitted and gotten back "sorry" before they even made it to the LRC

So...what does ploafmaster stand for...?

Man, that was easy. Hook, line & sinker....ploaf, I love you, man...!
Here's some handy advice though. Try 'feeling' the music instead of continuously trying to intellectually 'reduce' it. I guarantee you'll have more fun & you might even learn something esp. from a seer such as Marley.

Both have incredible talent and merit. Something about Knopfler's guitar is "singing", whereas this seems more about technical abilities. I think Knopfler has more emotion in his playing....just an opinion.

Yeah, just without the egocentric-pseudo-bow-guitar-jimmypagecopying-bandleader

You just don't get it do you...?

Course, I'm not sure the average RP listener is going to have the bladder control to sit through 15-30min pieces...

Jason

Pleasant enough, but not exactly the epitome of reggae. The programmed drum track brings it down a notch for me.

This band produces some of the best music today. With out much (if any) content, Sigar Ros have been an emotionally moving experience for a vast amount of peoples deriving from many different cultures. I have heard of, and seen, individuals crying at shows because they were so moved. I suggest that all the “screaming cat” people take another listen when you have the time to appreciate the music. Take the time, it’s worth the effort. Think of it as fine wine or good cheese (insert anything with an elevated delicate character), not a soda pop or a chunk of Velveeta. All things have their time and place. I am aghast that this many RP listeners have such a negative opinion of this band.

Like most English people, I have never understood why a lift becomes "an elevator" in American English

He did! And for an asshole like Sufjan Stevens! Shit!!! How much iron and wine'ish banjo and breathy singing does the world need?

Conservatives are bound by orthodoxy, authoritarianism and with the current administration... fascism. Those three things will never appeal to me over the next 20 years.

I find this fascinating. The woman saying ''und'' in the background over and over is weirdly mesmerizing. I swear I'd rather listen to something experimental like this that endure another Counting Crows by-the-numbers thing. I mean, those who are knocking this, why are you listening to an alternative ''eclectic'' mix when you can get something owned by Clearchannel? They never surprise anybody. And go eat at McDonalds while you're at it, you clone.

Any person who dismisses this song has never lived and if they have lived has certainly not loved.

The singer is knowingly forcing himself to lie to himself to recover from a painful lost love.

The song is about the times when nothing works, when the pain killers wear off, and we see the haunting, frightengly truth of a love gone.

That crying guitar in the background perfectly simulates the dam we buld to hold back tears that wish they could be shed.

This is a great song.

Mark
United Arab Emirates

no it is not about liking what i like, but c'mon a 1? really a 1? a 1? thats idiotic! and ridiculous for such an artist and performer. i like all kinds of music from all over the world but a 1 for the blues? there is a music scene - always was. it's all about the blues and everything on top of that is pure icing. we can never repay what the black folks of the world did for the music scene. its why beck and traffic have a place. a 1 for the blues? i don't get it.

Tell that to the Radiohead fans.

Clapton is not in the same league with Stevie Ray and Hendrix. Clapton, while a decent guitar player and a great pop artist, has nowhere close to the feeling and emotion Stevie Ray poured into his music.

OK, here's what sounds painfully naive to me: That you expect us to believe that you didn't make up your mind about SRV in the first 30 seconds you heard him and never really listened after that. His soul and skill are so obvious to legions of fans, including many of his peers, that your synopsis is clearly uninformed. I guess you would probably say the same thing about Clapton. You should read some of the things he's said about being humbled by Stevie Ray. You can check out some quotes from several great musicians here.

you need to seriously pull that stick out of your @ss. or as they say it in the old country, "wyciagnij ten kij z dupy!"

Say what you will about reggae, there is no denying that it does an excellent job of turning a 10 second moderately-rocking audio clip into a 3 hour snoozefest.

it's pretty funny reading the comments saying that reggae is "simple"....ha, yeah right. Anyway, it sort of reminds me of this fellow I used to work with. He hated the Grateful Dead witha bitter passion. One day I asked him what hios problem with the Dead was. He said to me (in all sincerity) that "The Grateful Dead play too many notes.....like Mozart" I was like geeze, thats awfully....shallow

Made the mistake of buying this album. Liked the music. It absolutely would NOT copy onto my computer, so I could download it to the MP3 player.

Wouldn't play using any computer software program I had.

Copyright is one thing, but not allowing a user to copy it to their own hard drive is rediculous. I took it back and got something else. Bah!

Bad move, Kasabian. Tsk Tsk Tsk.

I wish I could listen to Radioparadise in my car.

I wasn't very impressed with the musicianship. Better in the studio...

$50 says I hit the nail right on the head...

so what are you saying self-appointed 'genius'.....would 5x repetitions of the chorus/main phrase make a better fit into your got-no-sense-of-reality and got-no-friends physics lifestyle?

Not to take anything away from what Bill and Rebecca do here, but I tune in to RP for the eclectic mix...to hear things I've not heard before and may not have ever heard were it not for RP...i like Peter Gabriel, but I've heard this song hundreds of times...it's neither eclectic nor seldom played.

Now that we have that one cleared up, the next burning question is: is it "P Loafmaster" or "ploaf master"? ;-)

I applaud your applause of freely commenting. I do not, however, applaud this song. It offers nearly nothing palatable, and normally I'm a sucker for anything with a Latin groove. Lo siento mucho.

I don't even like the original version and I'm offended by the ammount of arrogance required to cover this song.

Is that a Taylor guitar on the cover art?

Ughh! Though I have to admit to Carlos' genius. I mean, get a current popstar to write some fluff thats perfect for modern airwaves and then just mindlessly noodle over the entire thing. Call it a Santana record and collect the award. Brilliant.

Dude, is there anything you like?

Kick-ass singing and by "kick" I mean "sounds like".

why isn't Ringo wearing shoes?

Morphine is one of those bands that, well, if you don't get them, then I don't want to know you.

Are you serious? I was rocking out at my desk during this song. I couldn't help it. It's better than a 6.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

It's Reggae, but I like it! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

I actually gave it a 7...

You go Carlos, you know what you like, you don't need to change for anybody, there are a lot of us that enjoy your incredibly vibrant music.
It is funny how I have read so many statements full of cultural prejudice, just when you think that our society is getting over it. Comments like..." The music and the guitar sounds always the same", WTF! it is like saying that all Mexican people look the same, follow my drift? You may like or not Santana but when people make ignorant statemenst like that, you know they are not familiar with Santana's career and Latin Music overall. IMHO of course.

Overall, i like it. However, I do feel it could have ended a few minutes ago. Just sort of drags on.


I need to take a shower, read, and go to bed, but I cant pull myself away from the computer. I need to know what's next...

I can't believe how great these two sound together! = 9

beck back for good!? think of him being leadsinger of nirvana

Now who's a rightwing fundamentalist then...?

blue man group is to Music as Gallagher is to comedy.
= Prop Music .

BTW : "I'm a man, I can change, if i have to, I guess"

"For ages", this album was released in Feb. of 2005. I think your timeline as well as your perspective of music needs a reality check. I feel this song is very poignant. Her message may seem obvious after the fact, but most of the time the things that need to be said aren't obvious until they are articulated.

Know what? Your church does NOT derserve a little mercy now, and I hope your church and all the churches, temples, mosques, synagogs, etc slip deep into that pool of poison and never re-emerge.

I think using obscure words in pop songs is intellectually pretentious. If you have other adjectives to propose I'd be glad to hear them.

troll my pole, ploaf!

Care to elaborate? I know you violently defend the right to dissent on these boards (and I agree with you), but what precisely is anyone but yourself to gain/gather by "Blech... :puke:"? I'll admit at times I don't go into full gory detail over why I do/don't like a song, but geez, man, what is it about Morphine's "Buena" (an 8 average, mind you) that's pukable? Had you done this to one of the "godlike" Beatles tunes, you'd have been drawn and quartered...

Personally, the horns, the bass, the catchy riffs...this is a 9 teetering on greatness.

It's a little lame when Bill says "jah man" after playing a classic Tosh tune. :-)

NO NICK DRAKE! Okay, he died, and that made him GREAT somehow. I get it. Now enough!