King Crimson - Fallen Angel
(Sep 10, 2012 - 20:34) | techer2 wrote: I hear a lot of Cake's style in this (minus the lyrics)....have not come across it before.
Have loved this tune for the last 10 years. Would love to hear Cake cover it, I think they'd do an excellent arrangement. The trumpet is what is most similar but Wetton's vocals here are also fairly similar to the singing style of the guy from Cake.
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Genesis - Mad Man Moon
(Feb 03, 2012 - 06:48) | bytheway wrote: I think a lot of these prog rock songs from the 70s were really meant to be heard in the context of the entire record, whether or not they were really thought of as "concept albums." Still, good to hear.
That's true for a lot of prog, but doesn't really apply to Genesis except for on "The Lamb Lies Down" or, to a much lesser extent, "Selling England" and Duke. What Genesis specialized in more than concept albums was "concept songs" that stretched out a bit and told a self-contained story.
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Genesis - Mama
(Feb 03, 2012 - 06:43) | fredriley wrote:I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Phil's drumming is some of the best ever recorded. I dislike almost all of Phil's solo output, but his work with Genesis is brilliant.
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Genesis - Mama
(Feb 03, 2012 - 06:41) | Poacher wrote: I have just rated something from Phil Collins an 8. . . I now feel dirty and confused.
Listen to more of their pre-1986 output and you may find yourself giving out that rating a lot more! :)
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Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
(Feb 03, 2012 - 06:26) | linzie wrote:
Dear Lord!! I can agree with you on some of what you said—I'll take it you meant 'Gilmour', above where you said "Gabriel & Waters"—-but you have to leave Waters out of this equasion...PG & DG are both genius's in their own way: To me, both Gilmour and Gabriel have magnificent voices, all three can write terrific pieces, and no one plays guiter like Gilmour; but Waters, although I enjoy listening to him, can't sing anywhere near as well as the other two...
Yes, I did mean "Gilmour and Waters"...and I do agree Waters probably has the worst voice of the three in some ways, but he has his moments. I think Waters emotes a bit better than Gilmour (just a bit)
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Genesis - Mama
(Dec 02, 2011 - 07:41) | Anax wrote: Not a bad song, except for the part that sounds like a cross between a laugh and an up-chuck. Seriously, what did he think that added?
Phil got the idea from Grandmaster Flash's "a-haha-ha-ha" laugh in his song The Message, he was doing a riff on that with a more sinister vibe (he's said this repeatedly in interviews).
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Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
(Sep 15, 2011 - 12:37) | Deadwing wrote: seriously- you can't do a play by play Genesis vs Floyd argument. Those 2 don't compare well.
Genesis is all whimsy and pretty dalliance and Floyd is mental disturbance.
And don't get me wrong- Gabriel era Genesis was my passion for many years. I LOVE that sh!t.
I just wouldn't compare it to Floyd.
Trying to get Floyd fans to listen to Genesis is a hard sell.
Whimsy and pretty dalliance?!? Listened to album The Lamb... lately? Musical Box? Return of the Giant Hogweed? The Knife? Mama? A lot more disturbing to my ears than anything Floyd ever did!
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Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
(Sep 01, 2011 - 06:49) | thenoizzbox wrote:
I really didn't like Genesis much at the time. I thought the music was too soft and weak for my tatse as a teen in the late '70s. I much prefered King Crimson, ELP and Pink Floyd which were all far better musicians than anyone in Genesis (except for Gabriel who truly is a genius to me). But hearing this now is kind of nice. I guess I mellowed out with time ;)
Might agree with you about King Crimson and ELP from a purely technical perspective, but all of the musicians in Genesis were better than the musicians in Pink Floyd at their respective instruments (except maybe Hackett vs Gilmour but that's an apples to oranges comparison).
Tony Banks vs Rick Wright/Roger Waters — are you kidding? Rick did great work, but Tony not only is better technically (this song is exhibit A), but also wrote or cowrote a thin majority of the Genesis songs (thin majority since they were very democratic in their songwriting), and wrote a ton of very deep, thought provoking, and even political lyrics throughout their entire career (Phil and Gabriel era both). Tony's lyrics are much more subtle/nuanced (though perhaps a bit too highbrow and sometimes awkward) than a lot of Roger Waters' "I hate capitalist pigs/being a rock star sucks" diatribes, but he still addresses political topics on songs like Domino, Cul de Sac, and One for the Vine, arguably more effectively than a song like Sheep which bashes you over the head. Rick Wright had some input on a moderate number of songs in Floyd's early days, but that was basically over by the time of Wish You Were Here. Plus Tony did do some singing in the band's early years just like Rick did in Floyd's early years, and he also played a lot of 12 string guitar in the early days.
Roger Waters vs Mike Rutherford — Mike is in a different league than Roger on bass — way better. Plus Mike plays all guitar in the post-Hackett era and almost all the rhythm guitar during the Hackett phase. Roger can outsing Mike, of course, but Mike was a huge influence on the songwriting and lyrics for Genesis throughout their career, and had a successful solo career in Mike and the Mechanics (not the greatest band ever but they managed to score a few hits).
Phil Collins vs Nick Mason — now that's a HUGE stretch. Again, Nick was great at what he did in Pink Floyd, but Phil is one of the greatest drummers of all time plus he sang.
Peter Gabriel vs Gilmour/Waters as a frontman/visual artist — Peter not only wrote a lot of lyrics and wrote some music (though not nearly as much as most people think), he also spearheaded the use of special effects and theatricality. Yes Floyd used a lot of special effects, but since they didn't have a dedicated frontman they couldn't engage (some might say indulge) in the kind of spectacles that Peter was able to pull off while he was with Genesis. Love it or hate it, Peter's theatrics were just as original as some of Floyd's special effects. Plus Peter's voice is pretty darn good, especially in his younger days when he had more range, although I'd say comparing Peter vocally to either Gabriel or Waters is a push.
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Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
(Sep 01, 2011 - 06:30) | beeblebrocks40 wrote:
Agreed, well said.
Gilmour vs Hackett is a tough call. Both are very good, and Hackett is a better technical player than Gilmour who used innovative guitar techniques like tapping and sweep picking way before it became widespread.
However, the fact that Gilmour can also sing a pretty good lead vocal should also count for something beyond his guitar playing. Hackett — though I love his abilities — unfortunately hasn't put himself in many situations to showcase his talents since leaving Genesis. He's had a very under-the-radar solo career, which is fine, but I'd love to hear him contributing to pop songs again like he was doing with Genesis (and yes early Genesis was heavily influenced by pop/rock music despite their "progressive" packaging).
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Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
(Sep 01, 2011 - 06:25) | On_The_Beach wrote:
Up to and including Wind & Wuthering there was a lot of great music. After that it got pretty patchy.
Agreed but there were still moments of greatness up to and including We Can't Dance. Check out The Brazilian or Fading Lights one of these days — it's like the Phil Collins solo stuff all of a sudden disappears and they're back to being their badass selves again (Roger Waters actually used The Brazilian for his soundtrack to Where the Wind Blows).
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Genesis - Mad Man Moon
(Sep 01, 2011 - 06:22) | MinMan wrote: Yes, it's all good except it misses out on the gut wrenching, soul clenching intensity contributed by PG on "The Lamb". Then again, Mr. G has soured in the most recent decade or two... so it goes.
Point taken. I'd add The Lamb to that pantheon (despite its flaws).
Still will argue that Trick is a more coherent and focused album than the Lamb though. But the Lamb does have that intensity that Trick lacks. Phil really wasn't able to match Peter's intensity until around the Duke album. But I do like his folkier, less bombastic, gnome-like vocals in the 70s...the dude sounded and looked like Gandalf back then.
For "intensity," Genesis' self-titled album is pretty good, especially the first side. Phil sings his ass off on the songs Mama, Home by the Sea, and Just a Job to Do. Hard to believe it's actually the same guy screaming on a creepy song like Mama that sings a literate, intricate tale like Mad Man Moon (of course Tony Banks wrote the lyrics).
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Genesis - Mad Man Moon
(Aug 31, 2011 - 12:06) | If there is any justice in the world, Trick of the Tail would be right up there in the classic rock pantheon with Who's Next, Led Zeppelin IV, Sticky Fingers, Dark Side of the Moon, etc. It's easily Genesis' most coherent, accessible time-tested album of their entire career, and it showcases all the things that make them a great band.
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Genesis - The Carpet Crawlers
(Jan 02, 2008 - 12:25) | heyjoe3577 wrote:
I know....but I can still feel the Phil in it. And I'm beginning to realize that I don't like PG either. Sorry.....
Any suggested tunes for me to listen to, so maybe I could appreciate either PG or PC?
Try "Behind the Lines," "Heathaze," "Me and Sarah Jane," "Mad Man Moon," "Dance on a Volcano," or "Entangled."
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Euphoria - Blue
(Sep 14, 2007 - 06:26) | Awesome song, this morning's set is amazing.
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Eva Cassidy - Fields of Gold
(Feb 01, 2007 - 11:57) | My best friend's dad died in a car accident last year, and the original was one of his favorite songs. RIP Mr. E...
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Elton John - Funeral For a Friend - Love Lies Bleeding
(Oct 04, 2006 - 16:44) | ploafmaster wrote: You know, I love this, but late in "Love Lies Bleeding" - I can't help but think of "Reading Rainbow" when that synth kicks in with the staccato notes...
Yeah, but this came first.
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Steely Dan - Aja
(Sep 11, 2006 - 08:14) | Maybe the song is an 8, but the coda gets a definitive 10. Such badass drumming, even if he did drop a stick.
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Vivaldi - The 4 Seasons: Summer
(Jun 28, 2006 - 10:50) | Dude, back in the summer of 1790, my boy Wolfgang and I used to blast this in my pimped out horse and buggy and get totally BAKED. Those were the days.
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Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
(Jun 02, 2006 - 19:34) | Squirrel wrote: I'm always so relieved when those first few bars don't turn into Amy Grant's "Baby Baby" . . .
Hahaha. I remember the first time I listened to this song, its resemblance to "Baby Baby" turned me off. I just couldn't get past that lick, even though Amy Grant was the one who ripped it. Thankfully, I got over it.
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Steely Dan - Aja
(May 17, 2006 - 07:51) | Two great things about this song:
* Wayne Shorter's incredible solo
* What is quite possibly the most ass-kicking coda in the history of pop music.
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Pink Floyd - Sheep
(Apr 17, 2006 - 08:03) | paiasoloco wrote:
I watched a recent RW interview where he talked about that but specifically about the intro in TIME. He said that in preparation for the Live 8 gathering he'd be re-listening to it and would go "ok, this is when it starts... ooops, I guess not. Ok, THIS is when it starts... Ooops, I guess not". He said he was actually surprised how long that intro was... that it seemed to go on forever.
LoL, and this was the guy who wrote it!!! I guess he doesn't have the patience anymore now.
Funny
It's ironic (albeit understandable) how a lot of musicians seem to know less about their old songs than their fans do. Your average floyd fan could probably use the intro to Sheep to time an egg.
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The Turtles - Happy Together
(Apr 17, 2006 - 07:53) | A wonderful song that will always be a classic. Difficult for me to listen to because it was one of my parents' favorite songs before they got divorced.
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Talking Heads - This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
(Apr 17, 2006 - 07:49) | This is one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard and it never fails to give me goosebumps. To me, it is about giving and receiving unconditional love and devoting oneself to another in spite of the ambivalence and imperfection. It's also a song that inspires me to appreciate all the wonderful details about life that we often take for granted.
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3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
(Mar 28, 2006 - 14:04) | rgr0707 wrote: As a rule of thumb, RP should not be playing songs that were played 99,865,568,657,128 times on the radio.
Ahh yes, nothing like a Clear Channel song to make the natives go crazy.
Look, it's not like this song gets played on RP every day, or even every month for that matter. Is it mediocre? Yes, but you know what, it's kind of catchy. It's not Bill's fault that Clear Channel plays this song every 5 minutes.
Just as long as it doesn't get played again until 2007, I'll be happy 
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Tori Amos - Crucify
(Mar 16, 2006 - 10:16) | GregX59 wrote: Is she ever not in pain? She sounds like she is trying to hold back a very urgent dump.
LMAO. This is not a bad song, but you have to be in the right mood. Fortunately, I am not often in that right mood.
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Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Over And Over Again (Lost and Again)
(Mar 16, 2006 - 10:08) | mojoman wrote: David Byrne, call your lawyer. You're being ripped off.
FWIW I read somewhere on the Internet the other day that Byrne was spotted at one of this band's concerts. I'd imagine that he's probably more flattered than anything else.
Personally, this song increases my desire to see the Talking Heads reunite. But these guys aren't a bad sustitute since that's unlikely to ever occur.
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Talking Heads - (Nothing But) Flowers
(Mar 06, 2006 - 16:17) | I'd love to hear this song and Joni Mitchell's Big Yellow Taxi played back to back. It would be the ultimate lyrical point/counterpoint.
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Queensryche - Silent Lucidity
(Mar 03, 2006 - 07:22) | dolfan wrote: I never really had a problem with this song, though I knew it was just an obligatory rock ballad that seemed mandatory in the '80's. But a girl I knew once referred to it as "Silent Stupidity" and it was over for me and this track.
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Bottle Rockets - Idiot's Revenge
(Feb 02, 2006 - 06:29) | It would be nice to have some kind of warning before a song drops the N-bomb. Those of us listening in cubicles would appreciate it! 
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Queensryche - Silent Lucidity
(Jan 31, 2006 - 13:42) | Loved Bill's comments on this one.
I do believe there was a clause in every 80s hair metal band's record contract stating that they must produce at least one cheesy ballad that sounds nothing like the rest of their songs.
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U2 - Surrender
(Jan 28, 2006 - 18:21) | Great song from a great album. Love the crazy guitar and female background vocals.
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Pink Floyd - Fearless
(Jan 27, 2006 - 19:00) | teo wrote: give it a 10. (Unless it is from The Final Cut)
...or from Momentary Lapse of Reason or The Division Bell
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R.E.M. - Find The River
(Jan 27, 2006 - 18:14) | Whenever my priorities are out of whack or I just need some good "alone time," I pop in this album.
Thank you, REM, for enriching my world.
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The Stone Roses - Made of Stone
(Jan 24, 2006 - 08:43) | Great music, unsettling lyrics. Not unlike most other Stone Roses songs. I wish they'd be a little less hostile and violent...it's really not necessary.
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Van Morrison - Into The Mystic
(Jan 19, 2006 - 22:50) | A true thing of beauty. I actually think Van has had much better lyrics than this, but he sings with such passion that it's impossible to resist.
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Live - Selling The Drama
(Jan 19, 2006 - 22:47) | Decent band, but some of the most bombastic and silly lyrics I've ever heard. These guys make the Stone Roses look like Dylan Thomas.
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Miss Chaos - Mama Cries
(Jan 19, 2006 - 22:34) | I'm puzzled by the large amount of airplay this song has received in the past year. Seems to be the default selection whenever the RP mix needs to wind down a little. I'd personally prefer to see other subdued songs get a chance.
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Sinéad O'Connor - Downpressor Man
(Jan 19, 2006 - 22:24) | kazuma wrote:
I have to agree. Her use of the f-bomb in this track is totally unnecessary, jarring, and takes me out of the groove for no good reason that I can identify.
Other than that, I quite like it.
I actually think the placement of the f-word in this song is quite clever. Leaves one with a strong final impression.
However, I find the rest of the tune to be mediocre at best. I appreciate Sinead's effort, but her voice has always rubbed me the wrong way.
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Delays - Wonderlust
(Jan 19, 2006 - 22:16) | Dude sounds like a ladayyyy!
I'd be very amused if Bill played the notorious Aerosmith song I paraphrased right after this one.
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Lucinda Williams - Righteously
(Jan 14, 2006 - 15:53) | I'd like to see Bill play some Coltrane right after this song. Might be kinda corny, but still cool.
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Randy Newman - Baltimore
(Jan 13, 2006 - 08:57) | Daveinbawlmer wrote:Baltimore has gorgeous old European Architecture downtown. It's compact. It's not a northern city, probably more southern. 300+ murders a year for at least 10 years and thousands and thousands of heroin addicts. It's been dis-invested to the point where the housing stock is literally falling down.
Baltimore will rise again in another 20 years, there's a building boom and downtown is rapidly becoming a condo-city.
I'm a Maryland native and tried to live in Baltimore and tried to love it, but its hard to love the murdering heroin addict that Baltimore is. To live there and pay taxes there is to support it and I just can't do that.
Baltimore is rising again. In ten years, the development going on in Canton will spread north to Johns Hopkins Hospital (this is actually already happening). Federal Hill has been an upscale neighborhood for years now and will only continue to get nicer. Hampden is starting to take off too. Baltimore is becoming a haven for DC professionals who want to escape the ridiculous prices and lack of local identity in DC, and that trend should only continue. The addition of 10,000 new jobs to Aberdeen and Fort Meade should only increase its value.
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Blues Traveler - But Anyway
(Jan 13, 2006 - 08:37) | Not a fan of this album. This song is the best cut off of it, and it's still just okay. These guys definitely improved with age.
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Mich Gerber - Zumurud
(Dec 17, 2005 - 16:01) | AphidA wrote: Is there going to be a little "Durka, durka ...Muhammed Jihad" breaking in on a verse here somewhere?
 LMAO
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Sheryl Crow - Letter To God
(Sep 23, 2005 - 16:05) | I'm not a fan of this at all. If it's the only song Bill likes on the album, boy that must be one bland CD. 
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RJD2 - Ghostwriter
(Sep 23, 2005 - 15:48) | Back in 2002, this song was in heavy rotation on the college radio station where I DJed. I've got the full album...nothing spectacular but decent if you're in the right mood.
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Yes - And You And I
(Sep 23, 2005 - 15:45) | Interesting how this followed a song called Opium...coincidence??
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Madeleine Peyroux - Between The Bars
(Sep 22, 2005 - 16:57) | Bill or Rebecca:
I just noticed this song on the LRC playlist. You may want to remove it since it's already in the library and being played.
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Sting - Mad About You
(Jul 26, 2005 - 19:58) | Trustocity wrote: This was my first "make-out" album. It always reminds me of that little blonde girl who came on to me, and we macked during "When The Angels Fall."
Every album after this bores me to death, but I really loved "Soul Cages" at the time and still do. It's sort of like Sting left the Police, took a new kind of drug that made him pretentious and brilliant at the same time, and then eventually took so much it left him pretentious and not-so-brilliant.
I actually find Soul Cages to be a rather melancholy album...certainly not something I'd want to make out to. Sting was grappling with intense grief brought on by the recent death of his parents when he wrote this album. Most of the songs, including this one, are about isolation, loss, and mortality...I find the vibe quite similar to that of REM's "Automatic for the People." Very cathartic, but not exactly romantic.
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Manic Street Preachers - To Repel Ghosts
(Jul 26, 2005 - 19:44) | Not a terrible song, but not that great either. Pretty silly lyrics and bland production, but at least it isn't a snoozer.
Haven't heard anything else by these guys. I researched them on allmusic.com a bit...apparently used to be quite cutting edge in the 90s.
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The Ditty Bops - Ooh La La
(Jul 26, 2005 - 14:35) | This has been getting lots of play on WRNR. I'm happy to see that RP has finally added it to their repertoire.
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Garbage - Bleed Like Me
(Jul 23, 2005 - 19:28) | Sorry, but I find Garbage's "I'm so depressed" attitude unconvincing.
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Temptations - Papa Was a Rolling Stone
(Jun 23, 2005 - 19:28) | This song came on at 4:30 today just as the workday was winding down. My coworkers insisted that I turn my computer speakers up and we all grooved. Thanks RP!!
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