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Song Comments by spacemoose
Lyle Lovett - Friend Of The Devil
(Aug 26, 2013 - 03:20)
 ericconrad wrote:
This is a good cover, but it's 3rd-best song on Deadicated. The best is Bertha, by Los Lobos. 

Bill: please add Los Lobos' awesome cover of Bertha to the playlist! 

Edit: it's on the playlist. I love this station!

My favorite from this album in Elvis's version of "Ship of fools".  I also really liked the cover Ripple.

Supertramp - School
(Jul 08, 2013 - 02:04)
 bb_matt wrote:
Love this song.

Often speculated just how much this is influenced by Pink Floyd, if at all? Perhaps it's just influenced by the times.
There's elements of Tubular Bells too.

Great times for very introspective music (60's gone etc. dream over etc.), whichever way you look at it.  

I can see the connection to floyd.

It looks to my like the album cover influenced the representation of the twilight zone in the Superman movies.  I guess this was obvious to everyone who was old enough in the 70's?

Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again
(Dec 11, 2012 - 06:17)
 scraig wrote:
Does anyone use the word TROUSERS anymore?
Trousers is British (as are DM).  When a Brit says "pants", they are referring to what an American would call underwear.

Fastball - The Way
(Apr 30, 2012 - 06:17)
 jkhandy wrote:

better than no hits at all.

That's an intersting observation.  I don't know if I agree with it. 

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Lodi
(Apr 30, 2012 - 05:29)
 Blastcat900 wrote:
When I was a kid, ever so long ago, CCR on the radio always made me happy, and I have to ask again... just WHO is making this kind of music now?
Brother, let me share a truth with you: There are people, right now, making all kinds of music.  The question you should be asking is:  WHO is PUBLISHING and PROMOTING this kind of music?

Further interesting questions are why isn't this kind of music being promoted and published, and what are the forces at play that have caused mainstream music to become what it is?   Going further down that line might lead you to ask what you can do about it, and indeed to www.questioncopyright.org


Leo Kottke & Mike Gordon - Living In The Country
(Sep 23, 2011 - 04:07)
I bought this CD.  Damned thing had copy protection on it.  Pisses me off.

Pink Floyd - If
(Sep 08, 2011 - 01:58)
 Xstar wrote:

Awe dude, give it another chance!  I totally get it, but it was the dance and not the Floyd twas the flailing!
I suggest applied use of psychadelics, or empathogens.  They are very effective at breaking and/or reprogramming associations.  This mechanism is what makes them so effective in treating alcoholism and trauma. 

Get some good friends in a nice environment, take some shrooms, lsd or extacy, and have a nice trip while listening to the album.  Thatl'll probably fix the problem.

Tori Amos - Silent All These Years (Live w/ Leonard Cohen)
(Jun 20, 2011 - 06:10)
 rabbi_phil wrote:
"Got the anti-christ screaming at me from the kitchen"     Man, that used to be me. ruined that part of her life. hate the me that was me then. Never really understood until I heard that lyric sung that way.

Pink Floyd - Fearless
(Jun 15, 2011 - 04:41)
 bam23 wrote:

For me, Pink Floyd became less interesting around the time they recorded Dark Side. All responses to songs are subjective, but it's their obviously psychedelics-inspired, or at least influenced early work, before their excessive successes that made them so unreasonably popular, that I find most interesting. I first saw them when they had recently released Atom Heart Mother, in a university gymnasium. Truly fantastic and mind-altering, although I was completely straight. The next show was Fulton County Stadium, surrounded by drunken louts. This was after DSOTM, and the experience may not have been much better for me than for the band (judging from some of their work on this theme). Success surely did not destroy the band, but it led to changes that were not altogether positive.
I completely agree with your observations.

I've put some thought into the obvious correlation between financial success and degradation of artistic merit that one sees in mass-media age.  I think the problem is the outrageous success, the financial shock of success, and the screwed up corporate culture of mass-media makes the artists life and experiences too divergent from the their audiences, and they no longer relate as well.

When they have a lot of life experiences behind them,  they often can avoid or mitigate these influences, but the artists who experience this success at an early age (life or artistic), seem to suffer the most.

Yet another reason to question copyright.  www.questioncopyright.org

Pink Floyd - Free Four
(Jun 14, 2011 - 01:18)
God, this is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Back when I was a young man in my prime, I was living in Valdez Alaska,  I had a beat up old ford pickup that I bought for $200 (and sold for $50 when it stopped working).  I was driving with my girlfriend, Karyn Hair, a jack-mormon I lived with, and this song came on the radio.  I thought "wow, this is a brilliant song", so I drove to the radio station (which was like a 2 minute drive, Valdez ain't that big), to find out what was playing.  It turned out a guy I used to wash dishes with was DJ'ing.  I thing his name was paul, but this is 20 years ago, so maybe I'm confused.  Paul used to turn me on to all sorts of great music.  He lived in a little camper van, washed dishes all summer in Alaska, listened to world music on his short wave radio, and would drive down to Guatemala or Belize for the winters.

This is now one of the memories of my old age, which inevitably pops into my head when I hear this song.  Nice to hear it on the radio.  Bill, if I can suggest a good segue for after this, how about Camper Van Beethoven's version of "O' death"?

Rolling Stones - No Expectations
(Jun 14, 2011 - 00:13)
 unclehud wrote:
 xarhs wrote:
what do you mean american music  the blues is world music

I'm sure this will surprise a lot of folks like Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, BB King, and a half-dozen other old geezers from Memphis and the Mississippi delta.
While it might surprise them, the statement would be no less true.  What we call blues music draws heavily from European folk music (swiss, irish and english influences are easy to detect), as well as Africa.  These sources converged and were blended with the slave and jim crow experiences of the descendants to produce what we call the blues.  Even the instruments show this international heritage.  The harmonica comes from the old hapsburg empire (germany/austria/switzerland — where it is called the mundharmonica, which translates as mouth-accordian).  The guitar and banjo seem to evolve directly from an African instrument whos name escapes me.  The washboard, washboard base are products of the inequality and poverty whose dickensian nature is a direct product of European economic and social models.  The blues use European musical scales and rythms, while adding syncopation, 'blue notes', and an improvisational character  typical from Africa.  It's no wonder that the blues are enjoyed internationally.

Truly, the blues is international music — both in its sources and its audience.

Ani Difranco - 32 Flavors
(Jun 13, 2011 - 23:54)
 coding_to_music wrote:
her best
Sounds too much like Alannis Morissette for my tastes.

Timbuk 3 - Easy
(Jun 08, 2011 - 02:54)
 sirdroseph wrote:
This song is faaaaar superior than that piece o crap shades song that was run into the ground. They did this band an injustice by forcing that down our throats like that. This is very good!
I find the whole album worthwhile, including "The future's so bright".

Carolina Chocolate Drops - Snowden's Jig
(May 31, 2011 - 04:09)
 shutter wrote:
...seriously, I mean, really, this song is just totally bad.  Just fundamentally annoying.  But, yeah, it's eclectic, so...
The fact that a significant portion of the RP audience enjoys this music would seem to indicate that the song is not totally bad, and not _fundamentally_ annoying.  There may be some aspect of it that annoys a certain segment of the population (yourself included), but if it were fundamentally and totally bad  it would, by definition, appeal to no-one.

I grant you that there exists a certain fringe group of contrarians who would probably like something fundamentally bad, despite or because of its badness, but the popularity of this song goes well beyond the kind of numbers that would fall into this range.

That you don't like this song is your business, but I would encourage you to reflect on the fact that people have strongly varying tastes, and artistic work can have merit despite your inability to appreciate it.

Oliver Mtukudzi - Ndauvara
(May 31, 2011 - 04:04)
 Aegean wrote:
Another RP gem...  bravo!  {#Dancingbanana}

It's not all that difficult to figure out what the song is about, if you're willing to put forth just a tiny bit of effort!  It took me all of a few seconds to find both the native text, and a translation.  I was willing to go to those lengths for someone Wikipedia says "is widely regarded as the most celebrated performer in {Zimbabwe's} history":
My wife used to teach in Uganda, and was married to an African for a number of years.  She's hugely into African music, and I know this song from her.  But I can relate to the guy who has a problem getting into music who's lyrics he can't understand.  Looking up the meaning of the lyrics isn't quite the same.  I can't associate the poetry of the guy with the emotions in his music and vocal modulations as I don't understand what's being sung as it is being sung.  This intrinsically reduces the enjoyment I experience listening to a piece of music with vocals.  It's not quite as bad as when a song has lyrics I find stupid and/or reprehensible (ziggy marley's ode to solipsism, which gets a good bit of play here on RP is an example of this), but it does reduce the degree of pleasure I can get from the music.

On the other hand African music in particular has a range and complexity that is nearly impossible to find in western popular music, and a hugely different underlying structure.  These things make the music worth the effort of listening to.

Interestingly, my wife informs me that many popular African artists release two versions of their music:  an African release, and a western release.  The western versions are simplified to be more musically digestible by western audiences and their more limited pallete.  My ear is not trained to the point where I could tell you if this is the western or african version of the song, or indeed if there are two versions of this album or not. 

Leo Kottke - When Shrimps Learn to Whistle
(May 26, 2011 - 04:50)
 DigitalJer wrote:
I wish I had half of this mans talent
While I don't deny that he has talent, what he really has in abundance is SKILL.  And that skill came from a hell of a lot of hard work and practice.  Dude worked his fingers to the point where he had to change his style due to RSI.  So I admire his hard work and dedication, as well as his creativity and musical aesthetics.

Aimee Mann - Save Me
(May 19, 2011 - 06:22)
I really like this.  I particularly like the line "save me from the ranks of the freaks who suspect they could never love anyone".  I can really relate to that.

At my wedding I made a spontaneous toast where I got up and thanked my wife for saving me from lonely future I had grown to expect.   Won me big points with my wife's friends.  This song always reminds me of that speach.

Michael Franti and Spearhead - Yell Fire!
(May 12, 2011 - 05:18)
 pdxrlk wrote:

The two are not mutually exclusive, and Franti's social commentary is too simplistic to figure that out.

I just ate a chicken sandwich brought to me by at least a dozen different corporations.  My house was built by a corporation.  The electricity powering it is delivered by myriad corporations working in amazing harmony to deliver it.  My house is cooled by an air conditioner built by, um, a company.  I drove my child to school in an automobile built by countless companies across the manufacturer's supply chain.

If that is helping themselves, I want them to do more of it.
So, do you mean to tell me that you are unaware of any negative consequences that arise from the scenario that you describe?  Do you believe that this is the best of all possible worlds, and that the process could not be improved?

Jump Little Children - Cathedrals
(Apr 14, 2011 - 04:31)
 auckland wrote:
This tune has bored me to death over breakfast - a meaningless series of chords accompanied by a singer who is obviously suffering under the pain of the whole world
I find it disturbing that people exist who aren't suffering under the pain of the whole world.  The world is full of pain and suffering.  What conditioning were you exposed to that you don't let that suffering touch you?  Compassion is a virtue sir.

Jump Little Children - Cathedrals
(Apr 14, 2011 - 04:29)
 Jelani wrote:
Droning monochromatic dirge.
Yeah, I love droning monochromatic dirges.

The Wailin' Jennys - Long Time Traveller
(Apr 13, 2011 - 08:09)
 jamesat43 wrote:
This rating thing needs to go to 11.
Alternatively you could re-normalize your ratings.  Otherwise we're just going to have to keep upping the damned max rating every month or two.

Eliza Gilkyson - Angel and Delilah
(Apr 12, 2011 - 05:15)
 cc_rider wrote:
Saw her a few years ago, opening for Loudon Wainwright III. Actually liked her better than Loudo, but he is definitely an acquired taste anyway. She was amazing as always. She wears her folkie-pinko-hippie-liberal heart on her sleeve, so she's not everyone's cuppa, but hey.
Yeah, all those folkie-pinko-hippie-liberal bastards, with their compassion, concern for future generations, and thought for people other than themselves.  We should line em all up against the wall, or disappear them, or conduct shock-therapy torture on them like we did in Chile, Argentina, Guatemala...   Screw anyone who thinks there's anything more important than the profit margins of the wealthiest one percent right?

Sarah McLachlan - Building a Mystery
(Apr 08, 2011 - 04:48)
 On_The_Beach wrote:

I wouldn't say "she has fallen so far", but like so many artists, she went through an incredibly creative period and then just kinda started repeating herself. Think The Stones, The Who, CSN, Paul McCartney and the list goes on. Most mere mortals only have so many great songs in them until the well runs dry.

I blame the commercial nature of the music industry.  When people achieve commercial success they become subject so such a vastly different set of influences than those that motivated them to begin with, and those that motivate the normal human being.  They live in a sort of bubble and are pushed by the economics of the system and the executive and sycophants whispering in their ears.  So they strive to reproduce their success, rather than to produce something of artistic merit, or to generate an artistic expression of some deeper experience.  The musicians become victims of their own success. They suffer, society suffers, and a parasitic and exploitative group of grasping individuals, whose primary job is to own things, grows fat. 

I haven't done a thorough analysis, but I have the impression that there is a strong correlation between financial success and the deterioration of the contributions of an artist.  Those artists with long creative careers are those for whom mainstream success remains elusive, or who only obtain a limited, fringe success.   The worst cases are those who achieve success too quickly and are not mature enough to resist the corrupting influences.

It's worth noting that the copyright-oligarchy achieves this by subverting democracy and perverting copyright laws, which provides yet another reason to question copyright (see www.questioncopyright.org).

Kings of Convenience - Misread
(Apr 08, 2011 - 03:08)
"The loneliest people are the ones who always speak the truth" — a song for Richard M. Stallman.

Focus - Hocus Pocus
(Apr 01, 2011 - 02:23)
 agkagk wrote:

That must have been a fun song to make

Ziggy Marley - True To Myself
(Mar 28, 2011 - 23:42)
 mvanderford60 wrote:
Narcissistic.  Where is the love?  Right in the mirror.  
Agreed.  Wow, what an asshole.  An ode to selfish prickishness, with a reggae beat.

Cake - Bound Away
(Mar 28, 2011 - 23:39)
 jhorton wrote:
Bill, Bill, Bill, I must disagree with you. Music doesn't, " Continue with Cake." Annoying noise ensues with Cake.

Thanks for the warning though, I was able to hit the Mute button before the, " Music," started. 
Wow.  That's a strong anti-cake opinion.  When I first heart this I though, wow, that's kinda nice.  Then I though, man, that sounds like Cake, then I though, yep that's Cake, and then I thought "man I should buy some Cake on vinyl".

Oh well, to each his own.  Me, I can't stand Roxy Music.

Bruce Springsteen - She's The One
(Mar 25, 2011 - 05:18)
 treatment_bound wrote:

I WANT MY RIFF BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the nice thing about copying:  If I copy yours, you still have yours!  It doesn't deny you the use of anything.  In other words, the guy still has his riff, be the rest of us get to enjoy it in new forms and interpretations.

Beware the corporate culture which seeks to institutionalize an attitude of intellectual propriaty, which impoverishes us all, and denies the true source of human innovation:  copying.


Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Compared To What
(Mar 25, 2011 - 05:14)
 Seahunt wrote:


The President, he's got his war
Folks don't know just what it's for
Nobody gives us rhyme or reason
Have one doubt, they call it treason
We're chicken-feathers, all without one nut. God damn it!
Tryin' to make it real - compared to what? (Sock it to me)
What I find interesting, and sad, is how this passage applies to every damned president we've had since Eisenhower (and maybe earlier).  Regardless of which subparty.

RJD2 - Smoke and Mirrors
(Mar 16, 2011 - 04:11)
 Proclivities wrote:

If a client wanted an old ad of theirs re-worked, then that was the job.  Designers are seldom in the position to tell clients where to spend their money.   The creativity and intelligence are expressed by the ability to complete a limited-resource job for a tight-fisted client.  If you're referring to the collage aspect of this song, there is a pretty long history of creativity and intelligence which has been referred to below.
I would go farther.  All creative work, is in some sense paste-up work.  Anyone who sees farther than most does so by standing on the shoulders of giants, and for that matter, midgets.  Even if you only raise an art or science by a couple of metaphorical millimeters, that's a couple millimeters more than we had before.

One of the worst aspects of our corporate-dominated culture, and the complicated web of propaganda and legislation that constitutes the concept "intellectual property" (the term is in itself propaganda) is the denigration of that aspect of how creativity works.   While it's true that some things are more obviously derivative than others, it's also true that every creative work derives in some fashion from some previous creative work.

Before the commercialization, corporitisation and commodification of culture which took place in the last century, people were much more free in this aspect of their creative works.  That's why there are, for example, so many interesting and different versions of any old folk song .  I have at least 20 versions of John Henry, just to take one for instance.

Indeed some of historys most creative and talented work could be derided as 'paste up' work.  Shakespeare, to take a famous example, hardly created any plots at all.  Most of his plays were retellings of existing works.  It was the skill and mastery with which he retold the story that made it art, not the 'originality'.  Yet no one derides Shakespeare as a "paste-up artist".  Of course, by today's standards he might be guilty of copyright violation.

Oi Va Voi - S'brent
(Mar 15, 2011 - 06:51)
 ce wrote:
Yiddish seems to sounds very similar to different languages that I understand, but it always take me a while to realize that it's none of them. Very disorienting... {#Confused}

Yiddish (& AFAIK Hebrew) are among the few languages that have a similar sound as the Dutch "g" or "ch", which sounds a bit like clearing your throat, or as a harder Spanish "j' / 'x'. This makes it sound like Dutch.
It sounds very similar to German (obviously).
It also happens to sound very similar to some Dutch dialects which mix (old) Dutch & (old) German.

Yet, I can only understand bits of Yiddish. {#Think}

I thought it was swiss german at first. 

Tori Amos - Smells Like Teen Spirit
(Mar 15, 2011 - 04:15)
I like this song for its musical value alone, but I have really fond memories of this one.  I was hitchhiking with a guy named Mike from Vancouver, down to San Francisco to buy Extacy to sell to the rave scene in Vancouver.  The trip didn't really work out financially, but man we had a great time.

Somewhere around Seattle we sitting under a bridge in a downpour, and we were disappointed that a guy in old VW van didn't stop to pick us up.  20 minutes later the same van pulls over and lets us in.  Turns out the guy saw us too late to stop, had to pull off  the highway to come back and pick us up.  Said he had build up some good karma since he'd be hitching somewhere in a couple of weeks.

Anyway, that's where I first heard this song, and Mike made the comment "Dude, this is awesome, finally I can understand what the lyrics to this song are" (keep in mind this is pre-www).  It was only at that point that I realized what was being covered.

Good times.

Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros - Johnny Appleseed
(Jun 29, 2010 - 03:44)
 gearfab wrote:
Love this whole record!!!!!
Me too.  Every time I hear this song though, I feel a huge pang of regret that they cancelled "John from Cincinatti"

Massive Attack - Teardrop
(Jun 10, 2010 - 02:48)
 twitterpated wrote:
Jamunca wrote:

Boys, men, lovers, husbands... go out and purchase this CD. Take it home. Light some candles. And make sweet, sweet love to your woman. Strange as it sounds, this may be the best album to make love, have sex, get down to. Whatever you wanna call it, all I know is you can thank me later. Now go, go, go! Enjoy your woman with a little Massive Attack.

coccyx wrote:

maybe obscure the album cover with a pile of condom wrappers or something though...

twitterpated wrote:

I can never, ever believe it when men offer other men advice about, to quote Jamunca, "make love, have sex, get down to."  Thank you, coccyx, for easing my cringe with your droll comment.

Yes, please use birth control.  6.x billion is way too much already.

Antje Duvekot - Dandelion
(Jun 10, 2010 - 01:40)
 Joy4life wrote:
Even more crappy folk{#Propeller}. Do people really want to hear this?
I do.  I'm quite enjoying it.

Peter Gabriel - The Boy In The Bubble
(May 12, 2010 - 04:48)
 frecko wrote:
Perhaps not PG's finest moment...
I really like this. 

I think the modern contempt for "covers" is culturally harmful.   It ignores the fact that all culture, art, science, technology, i.e. all cultural works are built on other cultural works done by others before us.  All creativity is communal work.  The art of interpreting a song in a unique way has been a cherished part of all folk music. 

I note that respect for this kind of work has died with the era of corporate culture monopolies:  the mass manufacture of cultural media being controlled by corporate capitalist interests, which in particular have a stranglehold over the means of distribution (thank god the internet is changing this).  It's pretty easy to trace a cultural shift to the corporate and capitalist control of cultural propagation.

So the big music oligarchies would have a real interest in a kind of "intelectual property" outlook towards music (and all other cultural works), downplaying the collaborative communal nature of all creative endeavours and focusing on the latest thing.  It's better for business after all.

There's nothing less creative in interpreting a powerful song to convey your own message.  Just look at all the old blues records.  I don't even know how many different versions of "Casey Jones" or "John Henry" I have, many of which are unrecognizable from one another.  Or the multitude of old blues songs where it's impossible to trace who's stealing vamps and lyrics from whom.  And y'know what?  The blues scene was the better for that.  A more contemporary example is Johnny Cash's American Albums which were mind blowingly powerful and creative.

Neil Young - Motorcycle Mama
(Apr 13, 2010 - 05:12)
 peter_james_bond wrote:

She had a great voice - she passed away in 1997 - RIP Nicolette Larson. Her death was triggered by liver failure which (according to Wikipedia) may have been due to over use of Acetaminophen - Tylenol. This common pain killer can be fatal if over used - please follow the directions.

Nicolette Larson

I can't let pass without comment:  this is a sad indictment of our irrational drug policies.  Acetaminophen is more toxic than extacy or cannabis, or even several opiates which can be taken for chronic pain relief without liver damage, yet it's available over the counter, while the others are not.  Our stated goal with drug scheduling: ranking drugs based on their danger and medical benefits, is a good one.  Unfortunately the implementation could hardly be worse.  Just look at Acetominophen, which can be bought over the counter, and Cannabis which is Schedule 1 (very dangerous, no medical benefits).  Sheer insanity.  It's not just these two that are misscheduled.  There's hardly an example of single drug, which might be used recreationally, that's scheduled rationally within the united states.  Sheer insanity.

Jump Little Children - Cathedrals
(Apr 06, 2010 - 08:05)
 auckland wrote:
This tune has bored me to death over breakfast - a meaningless series of chords accompanied by a singer who is obviously suffering under the pain of the whole world
How can a progression of chords have meaning or not?  They may or may not elicit an emotional reaction or some kind of association with a memory, depending on your tastes, programming, or experiences.  But unless you're encoding something into the chords I don't get what you mean... unless you're just trying to be pretentious.

A buddy of mine used to make practice songs by spelling words with the chords:  dead dad for example, but if you stick to that scheme your music, and your messages are going to be pretty damned limited.  Maybe that's why the song has lyrics?

Pearl Jam - Wishlist
(Mar 25, 2010 - 07:03)
 sirdroseph wrote:
This quite possibly might be the worst song in recorded history.{#Yes}
I'm not a huge fan either, but really, hyperbole much?  Haven't you ever hear "We are the world"?  or any boy band?

Eddie Vedder - Hard Sun
(Mar 16, 2010 - 08:05)
 david1045 wrote:

Here's the problem...Pearl Jam is great, but their songs are often weak and sort of ploddy. With a few exceptions most Pearl Jam songs exist without much melody. But Eddie Vedder nails this one. It is way more interesting than anything he has done with Pearl Jam since the 90s.

If their songs are weak and ploddy, what's so great about Pearl Jam?

Everything But the Girl - Missing
(Mar 16, 2010 - 06:08)
 dyharenas wrote:

...the English have little sun, yet they miss it like hell.
This song always made me think of very specific failed relationships:  I had a couple of relationships with women where we saw each other only briefly, frequently and intensely.    It was also never clear if the last encounter was the final one or not.  Would I ever see her again?  I always though yeah, that's probably how the desert feels about the rain.  I can extend the metaphor quite a bit further.

Hem - The Fire Thief
(Feb 25, 2010 - 01:01)
 peter_james_bond wrote:

Dude, see dcdude below....slow and mellow songs can be useful.....{#Wink}
Didn't you read the guys post?  Snuggling is way to feminine...

Laura Veirs - Ocean Night Song
(Feb 24, 2010 - 05:55)
 spigolli wrote:
Totally devoid of melody.  Stick to reading poetry in the coffee bars, Laura.
You apparently don't know what the word "melody" means.  You could try looking it up on wikipedia.  But don't feel bad, as crummy as the educational system in Georgia is, you deserve sympathy more than condemnation.

Aimee Mann - You Could Make A Killing
(Feb 17, 2010 - 05:34)
Reminds me of Liz Phair.

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit
(Feb 04, 2010 - 02:49)
When this song hit the big time I was hitchiking through Vancouver B.C., on my way up to Alaska.  I remember walking down a street listening to a couple talk about the music at a wedding they had just been to.  Apparently the guy was griping about how they played inappropriate music just for its nostalgia value.  Specifically I remember him saying "I dunno, I mean, I hope we don't wind up playing Nirvana when we all start getting married X years from now".

Ima getting married in July.  I think I have to put this on the playlist, even though I'll be the only person there who gets the joke.

Nirvana makes me remember my adventurous days.  I get all nostalgic, and the emotions don't fit the music at all.  Makes me want to pull out the Johnny Cash.  Oh jesus, and now bill plays "Venus in Furs", which has nostalgic value for almost the exact same period of my life, albeit for a different context.

Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out)
(Jan 27, 2010 - 03:01)
 keller1 wrote:

Fairly representative of the reasoning of Radiohead fans.  Sort of like Catholics in heaven —- they think they're the only ones there.
Wow, congrats, that's the most retarded comment I've read on the net this week, and I've been reading political comment boards this morning!  Seriously, your statement is so fantastically stupid in so many ways that I find it difficult to find a place to begin analysing it's stupidity.  You've been to heaven?  You've interviewed Catholics there?  You think that comment is relevant or provides some kind of insight?   WOW!  I don't particularly care if you like radiohead or not, I'm just boggled at the sheer mind-numbing stupid meaninglessness  of that simile.

The Avett Brothers - The Perfect Space
(Dec 17, 2009 - 06:25)
 superfido wrote:
neh...skillfully done music, but just not really my style.  Too much country twang.
I'm a big country music fan, and I don't really hear any "country twang" here.

Mit dem alter fangt man an sich an country Musik zu intressieren...

Tom Waits - The Heart of Saturday Night
(Dec 16, 2009 - 05:31)
This song always makes me a little weepy for lost youth, chasing a good time, and whatever wisdom can be found in booze and vaginas.

J.S. Bach - Toccata in D minor
(Sep 16, 2009 - 05:10)
 S-curvy wrote:
Hey does anybody's amp, er um, RP song rating pull-down have an 11 on it?
If you feel you need an 11, you are rating songs incorrectly, and you should scale all of your other ratings by 1/11 (and round).  So currently 10-> 9, and then you can use the 10 correctly. 

It's amazing how few people understand normalization.

Son Volt - Drown
(Sep 15, 2009 - 08:00)
 radioparadisehead wrote:
I like Uncle Tupelo, Son Volt, and Jay Farrar so much that I wonder how it's possible that some people actually desire to never hear those bands again.  Have you listened to a variety of their songs?  Do you like Wilco, separately?
I don't mind Son Volt, I'm not familiar with Uncle Tupelo or Jay Farrar.

I don't care for Wilco much though.  I really liked their collaboration with Billy Bragg on the Mermaid Avenue CD's, so I picked up a CD of theirs, and was pretty disappointed.  Wound up giving he CD away.  Just seemed, for lack of a better word, derivative, uninspired, and unmoviing.

But I don't hate Wilco, and I don't mind hearing it on the radio once in a while.

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Breakdown
(Sep 14, 2009 - 06:38)
 BillG wrote:

This predates Elvis C.'s first album by at least 2 years.
Actually, the debut date of breakdown is nov 1976, while "Less than Zero" had its debut on March 1977, so there's only a 4 month gap.  

On the other hand, although it is possible that Tom P. saw elvis performing live at some point in the three years prior to the release of Breakdown and though "hey, that's hot stuff, let's try and sound like that", I would say it's pretty unlikely.

Johnny Cash - Personal Jesus
(Jun 10, 2009 - 03:16)
 bitbanger wrote:
How do I put this so that non-Americans can visualize the frame of reference? Mr. Cash’s point of view is of someone who truly believes in the efficacy of a “personal Jesus”. It is filled with pathos and a tragedy borne of desperation. The Depeche Mode version was indeed satirical, more educated, and sarcastic, and in comparison a bit trite. I don’t know enough about Germany to opine but I’ve never seen the kind of raw simple religious fervor in the UK that is demonstrated occasionally here in the USA. With all due respect, I suspect that it may be difficult for contemporary Europeans to understand the context from which Cash is coming. The performance is about simple and humble faith driven by deep desperation and as such is quite an insightful expression. Depeche Mode sees the subject of the song as an object of ridicule whereas Cash empathizes and exposes a rich sense of human tragedy through that empathy. This song might be about simple people who speak in tongues, are duped by TV preachers, and grasp their Bibles like shields to ward off the unknown; they are usually displayed as ignorant clowns buy mainstream culture but Cash is seeing the human nobility in their innocence and meekness. Johnny Cash is not one of my favorite artists but this tune is truly great.
Awesome insight dude.  Me I'm a huge Cash fan and an evangelical Atheist, and I love this song.  You have expressed very elegantly what I love so much about spiritual music.

Johnny Cash - Personal Jesus
(Jun 10, 2009 - 03:13)
 darrenwwwa wrote:
I like Cash and I have even been to several of his concerts when I was a kid (thanks to my parents), but this cover is just wierd.

I bet if this was not Johnny Cash, nobody would like it.

This is fucking awesome.  I loved it years ago when I first heard.  It was the first American recording I heard, so I didn't recognize it as Cash until I was told it was his work.  I liked it so much I went out and bought all the American recordings.  I liked these so much I became a Cash fan.  I always thought he was okay, but the American recordings elevated him to my top ten musical-artists list.   My appreciation for those albums led me to listen to more Cash work more carefully, and I grew to appreciate his entire body of work more as a result of this.

This followed the opposite pattern that I observer with the majority of artists, where I like their early work but find their later stuff crappy.  Cash, like Tom Waits, is an awesome artist regardless of what phase of his career you chose to sampe.

Marianne Faithfull - The Ballad of Lucy Jordan
(Jun 10, 2009 - 03:04)
 Sadfish wrote:
Kill IT!
I haven't taken any real statistics (maybe I should) but it seems like about 90% of the time I hear a song on radio paradise, and think "wow, that's pretty good, who is that?", and then wind up coming here, I'm greeted with this kind of a comment.

Apparently I like the outliers.

Garbage - Parade
(May 07, 2009 - 07:54)
 Ag3nt0rang3 wrote:
Actually it's more like calling water a collection of molecules, each formed of one Oxygen atom and two hyrdogen atoms. Water isn't always wet, after all.
I like Garbage for the most part, and I think "overproduced" is pretty much inherently a pejorative term.  So I don't really agree with what you're saying.

I do however like wordplay.  That was well done.

Bruce Lash - Psycho Killer
(May 06, 2009 - 06:22)
 Alexandra wrote:
I could've sworn this was Leonard Cohen at first....{#Smile}
Ya know what?  I had the same reaction.  My thought process went "wow, that sounds like leonard cohen doing psycho killer.  Man remember that Junko chick that was flirting with you in that cafe in Seattle about 15 years ago... you should have gone for it there.  Fuck, now I'm getting married in a couple weeks, no more chasing tail.  Yeah, but dude, seriously you're almost fourty, and Bettina's awesome.  But man there's no way that that's leonard cohen.  his voice sounds way younger and smoother than back when did Songs for Heather, and there's no way he sund this earlier without me hearing it yet."
Then I checked the RP website, and eventually wrote this comment.

My Morning Jacket - Touch Me I'm Going to Scream, Part 2
(Apr 28, 2009 - 07:29)
 rtrudeau wrote:

I'm sad to say I recognize most of those names .... OTOH I can't tell you a thing about any of them so I guess it averages out.
Kanye west is a gay fish.

Bruce Springsteen - For You
(Apr 14, 2009 - 06:15)
 tomnam wrote:
Ummm, you were born in '71 and you still live at home? Maybe you should change your name to George Castanza. I think you're airing out your personal frustrations and unfortunately Springsteen happens to be your button. Maybe you should seek guidance somewhere...
Edited By tomnam at 1:40 pm on 4/21/2003

I like Bruce, but you have no idea why the guy lives with his father.  Maybe his dad has alzeimers and needs care.  Maybe they have a family farm and all work on it...

Nick Lowe - Big Kick, Plain Scrap
(Sep 10, 2008 - 04:13)
 maryte wrote:
Way too much fun! How on earth could this be rated below a 6??? Unpucker your backsides, folks!
I dunno man.  I like drugs, and my sphincter is pretty loose (I just had a monster BM), but musically this doesn't do much for me.

Death Cab For Cutie - Bixby Canyon Bridge
(Sep 10, 2008 - 03:17)
Everybody seems to have an RP favorite that they personally just can't stand.  Death Cab For Cutie is mine.  One of the few things that makes me take off my headphones.

Emory Joseph - Loser
(Sep 10, 2008 - 02:17)
Yup, I liked it at first, but the guys voice, more specifically the emotion in his voice, just doesn't seem to fit the song at all.

DeVotchKa - I Cried Like a Silly Boy
(Sep 10, 2008 - 02:03)
I should start keeping statistics on this.  It really seems like every time I hear a song on RP and think, "oh this is nice, I wonder who it is", leading me to check out the "Now Playing" link, I'm greeted by some desultory comment.  But maybe it's just confirmation bias that gives the impression

Frida Snell - Bullet With Butterfly Wings
(Sep 04, 2008 - 07:30)
Well, I like it better than the original.

George Harrison - Here Comes The Sun (Live)
(Aug 21, 2008 - 05:08)
 mjaded wrote:
Dearest Valerie- Maybe you are out of the loop being down there in Chile, but any negative comment refering to GH may very well effect the axis of the earths rotation and spin us off into oblivion.
I think you mean to say "affect the axis"...

Yello - Lost Again
(Aug 21, 2008 - 04:29)
I listen to RP to keep from getting in a musical rut.  But this I can live without.   

I'd take off my headphones, but it seems like every time I take em off, I miss a great string of songs.  Arg.

U2 - One
(Aug 20, 2008 - 06:06)
A hugely over-rated band.

But this is a pretty good number.  I've learned to appreciate it (including the original) since I heard the J.C. version. 

Like Springsteen's 'Born in the USA', I used to think this was vapidware, until I really listened more closely to the lyrics, not just the chorus.  Pretty good really.

Cocosuma - Servant
(Aug 20, 2008 - 05:19)
I found this pretty good.  So I gave it a 6 (which says "pretty good")

The Byrds - So You Want To Be A Rock 'n' Roll Star
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:57)
 mfassett wrote:
Oh, that's funny. You don't like what I say so you attack me. How quant. Sorry, maybe you shouldn't take my musical taste so personally.
What does his post have to do with being a quant?

Elton John - First Episode At Hienton
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:47)
 bindi wrote:
It is amazing how much EJ used to not suck! He was my absolute favorite - until Yellow Brick Road.
I like yellow brick road.  He became unlistenable to me later in his career.  Somewhere between yellow brick road and Candle in the Wind.

Bruce Springsteen - Glory Days
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:26)
 copymonkey wrote:
Those of you who are slamming this song as overly commercial are missing the point, just as the Republican did when they tried to use "Born in the USA" for campaigns. (Bruce said stop). Give The Boss some credit, the song is deliberately hooky and catchy. Just like the songs the jocks all got pumped up to, back in the day. Get it? If you don't like Bruce..fine. Just don't use your indie cred as the reason.
Good comment.  I find it an awesome song.

Beat Farmers - Reason to Believe
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:23)
Ugh.  I love this song, but I don't care for this version.  I actually like the music, but I don't like the disconnect between the mood of the music and the mood of the lyrics.  Often I can enjoy that sort of disconnect (eg They Might be Giants), but in this case it really doesn't work for me.

Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros - Coma Girl
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:21)
 jozooka wrote:
Cool dudes? It would be hard to be any cooler than Mark Sandman was.
Saw Morphine in a really small club in Philly many years back. Sandman was standing at the bar doing shots and smoking so casually I didn't realize it was him. Finished his last shot and walked over to the stage. Coooooooollllll.
It was an awesome show with the exception of the chick yelling "PLAAY KI-ANDY-LLAND!!!" behind me in the worst New Jersey accent.
I find these guys, just to name a few off the top of my head, much cooler:
Phil Ochs
Malcolm X.

Janis Ian - God & the FBI
(Aug 20, 2008 - 02:06)
 Baby_M wrote:
You've obviously never lived in a real police state. Neither have I, but I have two good friends who did. One spent a year in prison and came out with permanent physical impairments from the beatings.
You might like to read some of the following:

another story
Yet another story
prison beatings
Inmate count in US dwarfs other nations

(All links to NYTimes)

Janis Ian - God & the FBI
(Aug 20, 2008 - 01:58)
 ruthless wrote:
Oh my, I agree with PG!!!
Stopped clock, twice a day...

Alternate exp: PG might just be an @sshole when it comes to talking about music, and reasonable in other circumstances.   But people who call themselves a genius tend to be @sses, so I'm going to lean with the stopped clock exp.

Beck - Orphans
(Aug 20, 2008 - 00:39)
 BettyB wrote:
I really like Beck, but I think I need a "Best of" or "Greatest Hits" album, rather than purchasing a whole bunch of different CDs. Do they exist? Any recommendations?
"Greatest Hits albums are for housewives and old maids"
                                           -Bruce Mccullough

Frank Zappa - Camarillo Brillo
(Aug 18, 2008 - 06:58)
h_in_bristol wrote:
I miss FZ

Me too.

Michael Franti & Spearhead - Pray For Grace
(Aug 18, 2008 - 02:05)
Pantagruel wrote:
Someone stop this terrible noise

Right, you are the absolute judge of the distinction between music and noise.  Excellent.  I shall turn to you before having the audacity to form my own opinion in the future.

Harvey Mandel - Wade In The Water
(Aug 18, 2008 - 01:55)
redtex wrote:
I know y'all care so I let will fess up....this is not working for me.

I applaud you for your perfect, non-judgmental expression of your subjective musical tastes.

The The - Dogs of Lust
(Aug 18, 2008 - 01:12)
stewliscious wrote:
I wanna not like this because of that singer's voice, but somehow it just works for me with the harp.

I love The The, and I love this song, but honestly, the harp playing is sucko-barfo on this one.  It's at about the same level as Alannis Morisette's harp playing.

No really, it's true, it's not like that bozo who complained about Beck's playing harp on a song.  What this guy's doing here is pretty amateur hour.   Honestly, it almost sounds like he sampled a few harp notes into a synthesizer and is repeating them.

But the song works overall anyway.

Uncle Tupelo - Moonshiner
(Aug 18, 2008 - 01:07)
Excelsior wrote:

Bad news: Jay Farrar to this day is still whining into microphones in studios and on stages, effectively nullifying the good news.

Since you don't like people singing about pain ("whining"), perhaps you should look for a radio station which only plays happy, cheerful songs? 

Forest For The Trees - Dream
(Aug 17, 2008 - 08:56)
Wow this song has the flattest distribution of ratings I've seen yet on RP.

The Pogues - Dirty Old Town
(Aug 15, 2008 - 05:26)
Probably my favorite Pogues album.

I got turned on to these guys by my 'neighbor' Dave, a guy living out of his pickup-camper about a half a click from the abondoned cabin I was shacking up in in Valdez Alaska (Interestingly this was the same year that that kid from "Into the Wild" died doing more or less the same thing).    Dave had a shortwave radio, and when I was feeling cold or social I'd trudge through the snow to his camper and we'd smoke a bowl and listen to the shortwave.    This is one of the songs that stuck out in my mind, and when I later joined the world (getting electricity, heat, running water and all that), this was one of the first 5 CD's I bought.

At the time I had to buy an expensive import version, but it was well worth it.

The Wallflowers - God Says Nothing Back
(Aug 15, 2008 - 04:50)
 Ulises wrote: 
I just read both of the links you posted in their entirety, and they confirm that indeed, atheist != nihilist.

So, assuming that you actually read the links you posted, how could you miss this fact?  I can think of two explanations.  One is that your english and written comprehension skills are terrible. 

An alternate explanation is you don't know what "!=" means.  != is shorthand for "does not equal".  The earliest use I'm familiar with is from the computer language C, but it was probably used in an earlier language too (later languages like C++, Java and many others use the same convention). 

In programming, != is a strict Not equal operation.  It only holds true if the left and right side are not equal.  In common internet usage it gets abused a bit to mean "not necessarily equal to".

Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros - Global A Go-Go
(Aug 15, 2008 - 04:44)
 slickdh wrote:

Hmmmmm.... doesnt the music actually live on? Call me crazy... but I believe thats the beauty of it all..
Although he doesn't say so explicitly, I think it's implied that he will miss having Joe make new music.

Angélique Kidjo - Salala (w/ Peter Gabriel)
(Aug 14, 2008 - 05:21)
 arserocket wrote:
it has been played a lot but I was in a stinking mood (our hawgs went and ate my dog) and it made me feel better...just a thought
We have a great dane... I have a hard time imagining the hawgs eating him...

Neil Young - Old Man
(Aug 14, 2008 - 02:47)
 ScottishWillie wrote:
How, in later life, do we turn into our parents after trying so hard in adolescence to be totally different to them?
By dint of great effort, I am virtually nothing like my parents, even now as I approach forty.

Some are lucky enough to get parents who are good role models, or have good value systems.  These mature into adults who realize the wisdom of their parents.

Some of the rest work hard and find a reasonable way of being (that's me).

A great many people just default into slight modifications of their parents because they are slothful — intellectually and/or spiritually.  Belief systems and habits learned at a young age are comforting, easy, and require little effort, even if they are lousy ones.

Talk Talk - Eden
(Sep 27, 2006 - 07:02)
Everytime this gets played, I get my hopes up to hear some VU, and then I realize, "oh no, it's just that talk talk song".

It might be better than I give it credit for. For me it's always like drinking milk when I'm expecting orange juice.
Nada Surf - Always Love
(Sep 26, 2006 - 05:37)

always love, hate will get you every time
always love, even when you want to find...

So BAD!!!! So sophomoric!
Elvis Costello - Beyond Belief
(Sep 26, 2006 - 05:32)
highwindows wrote:
Jeez this getting REALLY boring.
Elvis - you just CAN'T SING!!

Wow, that's the stupidest comment I've read today. Congrats! You beat physicsGenius!!! Elvis has fantastic pipes and control. His versions of "almost blue", "my funny valentine", and "love for sale" are to die for. He has incredible range and power. You may not like how he chooses to sing, but that's not the same as him having a lack of ability.

When I saw him in concert he did the encore acappella, with no amplification. It was a small venue and we all just crowded up to stage to hear him. I was right in front. It was just incredible.

I'd be hard pressed to come up with a more accomplished and skilled modern vocalist. Of course, there's always what leonard cohen's lawer told him once "none of you guys can sing. If I want to hear singing I go to the opera..."
R.E.M. - World Leader Pretend
(Aug 30, 2006 - 07:30)
jlind wrote:

What the hell does your post have to do with anything? "Oh, REM is playing so I have to mention the one REM song I'm familiar with?" God, you just wasted 2 seconds of my brains clock time with that.
Richard Thompson - I Can't Wake Up To Save My Life
(Aug 30, 2006 - 07:26)
Businessgypsy wrote:
Originally Posted by roguewarer:
"I appreciate being exposed to RT via RP, but I'm not crazy about him, and this song is good example why. Ho-hum tune with some very sophmoric guitar work. "

Cripes! I'm further behind than I thought! At this rate, my playing is embryonic - no, make that first date, not sure if they'll even hold hands. Unless, of course, you take emotion and expression (and not just technique or note/measure census) into account. Then Richard Thompson would qualify as second-from-the-left-assistant-to-God and I would be, um... first date, not sure if they'll even hold hands.

I liked your post.

I had a buddy (sadly deceased) who was a fantastic guitar player, concentrating mostly on pre-war blues and ragtime in the time that I knew him.

Apparently for a number of years he was a technique snob, and wouldn't listen to, for example, Nirvana, because their guitar was so amateurish.

Later he would say "yeah, I'm embarassed I was ever like that"

I love to listen to good guitar playing (I love Leo Kottke for example), but guys like Joe Satriani bore me to tears. All technique and no heart.
Mark-Almond - The City
(Aug 30, 2006 - 05:06)
drtjdel wrote:

Of the last thirty CD's I've purchased in the past two years or so, 90% were a direct result of RP.

Of the last 100 CD's I've purchased in past two years or so, about 40% are a direct result of downloading music illegally over the internet.

Of the last 20 DVD's I bought last year, about 40% of them I saw first by downloading illegally over the internet.

Of the 2000 swiss francs I spent on comics last year more than half were on comics I found out about by downloading them illegally over the internet.

... you know in case anyone cares.
The Smashing Pumpkins - Set the Ray To Jerry
(Aug 18, 2006 - 04:26)
Blue Foundation - Save This Town
(Aug 18, 2006 - 03:53)
Dave_Mack wrote:
Two many tracks of the same mediocre vocalist, methinks. I'll give it a 5.

Two = 2.
too = also, or in excess

e.g. "two starbucks is two too many"

Ben Harper & the Blind Boys of Alabama - Take My Hand
(Jul 20, 2006 - 00:00)
ObsidianInfinity wrote:
I hear Tracy Chapman type styles.

The Blind Boys of Alabama have been making gospel music continuously since 1939!

So maybe Tracy Chapman is a fan...
Tom Waits - Old Shoes (& Picture Postcards)
(Jul 19, 2006 - 23:30)
thanks for playing some old tom waits. Someone needs to upload "the early years" version of this song. this is nice, but I like that one even better.

This song makes me so nostalgic for my rambling and roving days...
Cake - Short Skirt Long Jacket
(Jul 19, 2006 - 08:37)
physicsgenius wrote:
I want to give this a 10, especially for the line "fingernails that shine like justice" (so brill), but I can't quite put it in the same category with Moonlight Sonata et al. The ratings should go to 11.

Why? Don't you know how to normalize?
The Mavericks - Blue Moon
(Jul 19, 2006 - 05:01)
NutsyUK wrote:
Crap... Runs to long... ANd im glad they failed to brake into the UK market... The track they tryed it with make me sick to the teeth....

I have a hard time taking seriouly an opinion expressed by a person who doesn't know, for example, how to spell 'tried', or the difference between 'break' and 'brake'. I realize that there exist illiterati who can in fact think cogently, but I just have a knee jerk 'what a bozo' reaction. Typos like 'ANd' are of course forgiveable.

Of course, regardless of the spelling, I disagree with your opinion. I like the song, and I quite like this version.
R.E.M. - Talk About the Passion
(Jul 07, 2006 - 05:01)
mxdcec wrote:
Why do all bands loose that fresh energy that makes them so interesting to hear as they become successful?

Why do people confuse loose and lose?
Van Morrison - Gloria (w/ John Lee Hooker)
(Jun 25, 2006 - 08:54)
Helchat wrote:

A relatively new term! The word was derived from the name of General Hooker, of the Confederate Army during the Civil War in the U.S. He provided ...... um, female "companionship" for his troops. They were known as "Hooker's girls".... thus, the term.

That's more than likely just a myth, from wikipedia:

Despite Hooker's reputation as a hard-drinking ladies' man, there is no basis for the popular legend that the slang term for prostitutes came from his last name, due to parties and a lack of military discipline at his headquarters. The term "hooker" was used in print as early as 1845, years before Hooker was a public figure.

Other civil war history sources state more or less the same.
Cat Power - The Greatest
(Jun 09, 2006 - 07:48)
As long as she has less than 30% body fat, I want to sleep with the singer... I might even go as high as 35% if she sings during sex...
Leonard Cohen - Who By Fire (live)
(Jun 09, 2006 - 07:43)
betsy wrote:
I love this entire album, and LC in general. I must concede that is hard to love LC: that voice is an acquired taste and those lyrics are ... dense. I adore it because it sounds so real - no studio tricks or marketing studies. He is who he is (Can't you smell the tobacco?) and you've got to admire that much fearlessness. Its taken a full year, but his album "Dear Heather" has taken hold in my subconscious and grown on me. Keep 'em coming!

You think he's an acquired taste? I heard him on the radio when I was living in Alaska. He was singing "Chelsea Hotel #2", and immediately after I heard the lyrics "And clenching your fist for those of us who are oppressed by the figures of beauty, you fixed yourself, you said 'well never mind, we have the music'". I immediately called the radio station to find out who was singing, and proceeded to buy his whole discography.

I have to admit I find his first three albums the strongest from a musical perspective. I liked the simpler arrangements and fantastic guitar playing on the early stuff, but his songwriting has never let me down.

But most people don't invest enough energy into listening to lyrics, or have perhaps the necessary background (he likes biblical imagery, and references some funky poets like F.G. Lorca) to really grok his music.
Tom Waits - Chocolate Jesus
(Jun 09, 2006 - 07:16)
SiniLMan wrote:
Ok, I'm a newbie when it comes to Tom Waits. Besides this song, I've only heard his rendition of Cole Porter's "It's alright With Me" which I loved to the dismay of my circle of friends who gave me strange looks. I guess I'm a new fan because I love this song too! Any suggestions on CDs to buy?

Heart of Saturday Night is fantastic.

Two CD's that don't get NEAR enough attention are Tom Waits the Early Years Volumes I and II. Just f-g great. Especially volume 1. Hear what Tom sounded like before he destroyed his voice with cheap booze and cigarettes.

In fact there are few Tom Waits Albums I wouldn't recommend, but some are less accessible than others. For exampe, 'Frank's Wild Years' and 'Bone Machine' are great, but certainly somewhat experimental. 'Heart Attack and Vine' is great. Alice (more recent) is also fantastic.

Stay away from greatest hits and "Island Years" etc. The actual albums are usually worth getting and his best efforts are often the more neglected pieces.
The Temptations - Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)
(Jun 08, 2006 - 05:27)
Zep wrote:

physicsgenius wrote:

some crap

Bwa-ha-ha! Dude you crack me up sometimes!

Yeah, PG is usually good for a laugh.

But actually this whole thread has been pretty boneheaded...

On the one hand, if someone doesn't like a genre or style, well that's their choice/taste. It's personal, and there is no mathematics for taste.

On the other hand it's pretty clear that musical taste is not entirely genetic or physical. Ideas of what is pleasant or harmonious varies across cultures and eras. Carrying an inate predjudice against or for a particular genre can cost you some pleasure in life. Just like prudishness. Sometimes putting a little effort into getting a type or piece of music will pay off wonderful dividends.

Me I like people who go to a little effort to enjoy music.
The Temptations - Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)
(Jun 08, 2006 - 05:20)
Old_Pat wrote:
Can't go higher than 10. Pity - this deserves more.

No, it just means you need to recalibrate your scale, and only give 10s to songs you feel are equal to this.
The White Stripes - The Denial Twist
(Jun 08, 2006 - 04:31)
tg3k wrote:
Add me to the list of those who "don't get" the White Stripes. amb599 called them "poster children for bad music", and I would agree with that if I could see any semblance of music in their work.

Out of curiosity, are there any real musicians who think the WS are worth the plastic their CDs are pressed from? I can see how the raw, untamed sound could appeal to some of the masses, but does anyone who knows and competently plays music actually like this band?

I haven't listent to the WS much, but I have liked what I heard.

I can tell you about my buddy Scott who was a big WS fan, a total music snob, and a fantastic musician. He played primarily ragtime and pre-war blues guitar, and really well. He constantly bemoaned the lack of skill and poor taste of modern music, but the WS apparenlty made it into his good graces.

As a mediocre musician, I really appreciate skill, when it isn't just skill for skill's sake (can't stand Satriani for example), and I really appreciate creativity. I think the WS seem to be trying to do something interesting, besides just selling records. But I'll have to spend more time listening to them to really judge.
Camper Van Beethoven - Sweethearts
(Jun 01, 2006 - 06:02)
drH wrote:

Trite lyrics? Well, I can imagine how someone would think that if all they heard is "Everything is fine, everything is fine." Why not listen to the rest of it? Could be there's a little irony you didn't get.

Yeah, A lot of CVB's lyrics are over a lot of people's heads. This song is total sarcasm + irony. It's really a brilliant song. Same thing is true of pretty much every song on this album.

I remember having a friend who thought "all her favorite fruit" was some kind of free verse stream of conciousness thing. I was like "dude, just actually sit and listen to all of the lyrics once". I guess most people are conditioned to having the point of a song be some banal truism delivered with a psuedo-philosophical blunt instrument and repeated ad nauseum in the chorus.
Camper Van Beethoven - Sweethearts
(Jun 01, 2006 - 05:58)
One of my favorite albums from one of my favorite bands.
Tonic - Lemon Parade
(Jun 01, 2006 - 05:49)
So I can't help but compare this to the Richard Thompson song "beeswing" that gets a lot of airplay on RP.

I find it interesting that Beeswing gets a lot of critisism while this song seems to be pretty popular, which is pretty orthogonal to my opinion. I find the lyrics to this song pretty damn insipid "I'd keep you under my wing and protect you from everything"? Jesus, how 1940's.

Beeswing has a kind of folk sound, but Richard Thompson has at least his own sound. These guys seem to just rip off a couple dozen popular bands to get their sound. And Thompsons lyrics are reasonably complex and explore certain morality and quality of life issues that I can really relate to. This sounds like some victorian era attempt at seduction. "oh, you poor girl, you weren't popular so you had to be smart. I wish I could have been there to protect you from all that...". Jesus...

The music is pretty mediocre. I wouldn't complain if I liked the lyrics but it's not good enough t make me forgive the utter banality of the text.
Patti Smith - Dancing Barefoot
(May 29, 2006 - 07:34)
Tux wrote:

I love *this* song, and would love to hear it more often.
Just ditch the covers. All of them. Forever.

So you only want to hear the Iwan Krall version?
Peter Mulvey - The Fly
(May 23, 2006 - 00:09)
well, i'm not a huge fan of this song, but this version is certainly an improvement on the original.
Matt Mays & El Torpedo - On The Hood
(May 22, 2006 - 04:21)
annoying pop drivel, with incredbly stupid lyrics, and a wa wa pedal instead of a good guitar player...
Mary Gauthier - Mercy Now
(May 22, 2006 - 04:01)
Wow, what f-cked up bunch of posts. Thanks G.W. for bringing our country together!

Well anyway, I'm about as hard core an atheist as exists. I don't want god mentioned on my money or my national anthem for example. But I quite like a number of gospel songs. They're songs about a particular human need and sentiment, and they are often about particularly appealing human needs and sentiments. I always thought Johnny Cash had good taste in spiritual music, and a lot of pre war blues guys had lovely spiritual music. The spirituals he did on the American recordings were incredible. Woody Guthrie had some great stuff too. He did this take on "Jesse James" rewritten to be about "Jesus Christ" that was just great.

I studied physics at an engineering school, and had to take a number of humanities classes. I took some kind of generic literature class where we studied the Illiad and the Odyssey, among other things. There was one guy in the class who actually spoke up and said something to the effect "why the hell should we study this stuff? We know the sun isn't some god called Apollo ... etc. etc.". The ignorance and stupidity of that comment leave me flabergasted to this day. Ignoring the literary value of the works, you don't study mythology to gain a physical understanding of the universe. You study it to understand human nature, and the roots of our culture. It can be interesting and provide wisdom and insight. Christian mythology too.

That said, I didn't like this song. It's too long and too repetitive. I probably would have enjoyed a 2.5 minute version.
Euphoria - Fire In The Hole
(May 22, 2006 - 01:28)
MtnGoat wrote:
Sorry, sounds a little too Hot Tuna/Kottke-ish, which in itself isn't that bad but they don't seem to bring anything else to the table (at least in this piece).

Shit, I can put on a slide and do this and I haven't touched my guitar in years.


Really, how'd you learn slide technique? Did you take lessons? I picked up a slide and tried messing around but I wasn't able to get anywhere musical with it

As for this song, I quite like it, even if it is repetitive..
G. Love & Special Sauce - Gimme Some Lovin'
(May 17, 2006 - 05:42)
Caribbeing wrote:
I hate songs with guitar (or some other instrument) coming through just the left or right channel. Makes me feel like I'm going deaf in the other ear (at least, when wearing headphones).

Yeah me too. I guess it's really only horrible when wearing headphones, but it makes it unlistenable at work.
G. Love & Special Sauce - Gimme Some Lovin'
(May 17, 2006 - 05:40)
smadanayr wrote:

I had sex with my girlfriend while she was asleep once, she didnt know in the morning till I told her.

Does that make me weird?

It makes me think you have a pretty small penis...
Richard Thompson - Beeswing
(May 17, 2006 - 05:28)
I really like this song, but I do think it gets a little overplayed here. And that's not just becuase it reminds too much of about half of my relationships, makes me all wistful, and kills my productivity for a couple hours...
Red Hot Chili Peppers - 21st Century
(May 16, 2006 - 10:35)
yeah, I was never able to see why this band got taken so seriously...
Neil Young - After The Garden
(May 16, 2006 - 09:12)
glad to hear some of this album on RP. I want to hear "lets impeach the president" though. How about it?
R.E.M. - Country Feedback (live)
(May 16, 2006 - 09:10)
Duluoz wrote:
I absolutely hate the REM sound. I don't know what it is...Is it Stipes voice?... the way every REM song sounds the same?... I don't know!!!!!! Bill make it stopppp pleaseeee! I beg!

Wow, I can't believe anyone could think this , 'swan swan hummingbird', 'finest worksong', 'rembering california', and 'secret agent man' (just for examples) all sound the same!
A3 - Let the Caged Bird Sing
(May 16, 2006 - 08:57)
Mugro wrote:
Sorry. British accented singers trying to sound Southern doesn't quite work.

Well, I'm from 'the south', and I love this group.
Sebadoh - Willing to Wait
(May 16, 2006 - 08:44)
Not my favorite sebadoh song, but even their dogs are pretty good.

This song came out when I was going through a relationship where this song was pretty approppos... Not really pleasant.
Béla Fleck - Moonlight Sonata
(May 16, 2006 - 05:42)
jayvee2 wrote:
Sorry. The banjo doesn't do anything for me. Too gimmicky.

Gimmicky? I love the sound of the banjo. It's highly distinctive and had a lovely tradition.
Pogues - The Sunny Side Of the Street
(May 15, 2006 - 05:23)
ethajn wrote:
Their vocalist needs to sober up and practice his diction. Their stringed instrument players need to learn a new chord progression. And those penny whistles are mocking me - I just know it.

That's 4 annoying songs in a row, right out of the gate. Come on, RP. I expect better from you.

When I read your post, I was surprised to see it wasn't by physicsgenius...

nice to hear some pogues on RP. And I gotta say, they haven't been the same since sean got booted.
The Church - Metropolis
(May 15, 2006 - 03:27)
Back in Metropolis, circuses and elephants
Where the oranges grew
And back in Metropolis nothing can ever topple us
When I'm standing with you
And back in Metropolis talk about a holocaust
And then visit the zoo

Okay, musically I find this lame. Lyrically it seems even worse. Can anyone tell me something to change my mind?
Aimee Mann - Save Me
(May 15, 2006 - 03:14)
physicsgenius wrote:
Open your mouth when you sing.

You know, I'm a physicist, so I work with a lot of physicists. And I don't know a single one that would call themselves 'physics genius'. In fact, the better physicists I know tend to be humble. But even the flamingly arrogant, fields medal winning, 10 phys rev a year publishers wouldn't call themselves that...

not that that has anything to do with music...
Grateful Dead - Ripple (live)
(May 15, 2006 - 02:06)
dead_flowers wrote:

i'm a stoner, i'm under 25, and I like grateful dead a lot. i am truly sorry that I wasn't around when these guys, along with all the great bands from late 60's and 70's were at their best.

You know, I'm 35, and I was around a bit and couldn't stand the deadhead scene. To be fair, a lot of those hard core deadheads were really annoying: 150 versions of each damn dead song, and no other music. It's also true that on a lot of the live recordings I was forced to listen to there was a lot of interminably long improvisation that was difficult to get into. Some of their improvisatiosn I still find difficult to enjoy, but I have enough respect for their musical ability and integrity to assume that there's something to it. And let's not forget how damned long they toured. Of course you want to mix it up a little. Who wants to be a really complex eating and shitting juke box?

After sitting down and actually listening to their music seriously, I'm a huge fan now. I regret not hitting those dead shows when I had the chance. My appreciation for the music has grown since I started playing myself.

As for the stoner stuff, I'm sometimes a stoner, but my appreciation for the dead seems to be independant of whether i'm stoning or not.

The Band - Atlantic City
(May 15, 2006 - 00:15)
guitar_man_101 wrote:
How can so many people dislike this song. I've never heard it before, but I think it's an excellent tune.

Check out the original version, on the "Nebraska" album by Bruce Springsteen. Vastly better (IMO). I think a lot of the dissatisfaction with this version is the lack of emotion put into it. My impression was the band didn't give a rats ass about the song. I wonder why they bothered with it? Maybe they just rehearsed it so much they got bored with it.
Bruce Springsteen - It's Hard To Be a Saint in the City
(May 15, 2006 - 00:10)
MCKY wrote:

I'd agree, the first three albums were wonderful. I've been reliving Born to Run via the 30th anniversary box set. (Jeez, was it really that long ago?)

None of his other albums have really grabbed me like those first three.

My favorite springsteen albums, by far, have been 'Nebraska', (oh and look, here's the band playing atlantic city, but I like Bruce's version better), and The Seeger Sessions. I that's a great damn album.
Monte Montgomery - When Will I
(May 15, 2006 - 00:07)
well, i am a guitar geek, but on first listening this falls into the "too much technique, not enough soul" category. Really fast, but all intelectual, and just showing off how fast an fancy he can play, rather than actually expressing anything.

but of course that's highly subjective, and I reserve the right to revise my opinion.
R.E.M. - So. Central Rain
(May 07, 2006 - 09:46)
beelzebubba wrote:
Aw man....I miss this album. I think it's still down in my basement on cruddy old vinyl.

Must replace digitally......

This was when R.E.M. was still fun and fascinating.

I was just thinking how much I'd like this on vinyl. I'll buy you the CD if you send me your vinyl (assuming it's in good shape): stark@ife.ee.ethz.ch
Leo Kottke - The Other Day (near Santa Cruz)
(May 07, 2006 - 07:27)
Am I the only person who thought this iggy pop?
Richard Thompson - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning
(May 07, 2006 - 07:17)
webslinger48 wrote:
AAARGH! I can't believe this song ranks an 8 on RP...I guess there are more tone deaf people in the world than I thought. Any song sung with that voice is doomed...To quote the great Bill Walton: "HORRIBLE"

My theory is that people hold Thompson in high regard for nostalgia reasons because they listened to him in the 60's and 70's. Fair enough. I grew up with the Fine Young Cannibals and Def Leppard and still enjoy them. But those bands aren't played on RP, for good reason. I guess Thompson gets a pass because he was doing it in the 60's and 70's.

I like his stuff, and I heard it for the first time right here. And I'm far from tone deaf.

Taste in music is subjective. I grew up listening to Def Leppard too, but I cast off the shackles of listening to music that was popular to instead listen to music that appeals to me and you won't catch me listening to that crap anymore.

Billie Holiday - Speak Low (Bent Remix)
(May 04, 2006 - 23:24)
I don't always hate remixes. But I hated this.
Graham Parker - Don't Ask Me Questions
(May 04, 2006 - 06:34)
Zarba wrote:

I must be getting old, since I think most of the pop music being made these days is formulaic swill.

Most popular music is formulaic swill, regardless of when it was made. As the years pass we forget the crap (except for occasional bouts of nostalgia).

It's easier to find good old music, becuase there's less crap obscuring it. And of course as we get older we get more set in our ways, have less time to filter through the junk...
Andrew Bird - A Nervous Tic Motion of the Head
(May 04, 2006 - 04:41)
Odyzzeuz wrote:
I much prefer songs with either genuine depth or no pretensions of depth at all. The more closely you examine these lyrics the more obvious that they're only masquerading:

I dunno, I read the lyrics, it seems like they're obviously about a guy who was exposed to toxic waste of some kind. Makes me think of a Greenpeace documentary I saw years ago... Had a guy whos job was toxic waste disposal with this horrible tic. Then they had a clip of some guy currently working in the field saying "yeah this shit isn't dangerous at all. Those goddamn hippie granola eaters, look I'll show you it's safe", and then he eats a spoonful of this toxic ash he's hauling...

and musically I think it's pretty creative. Certainly creative enough I'm interested in hearing the rest of the CD
Emmylou Harris - Wrecking Ball
(Apr 13, 2006 - 08:23)
frednic wrote:
Oh man! You made me laugh. I'm a big Emmy fan. I can see how this might grate on some ears. I've been listening to Emmy and Neil for over 30 years so maybe it's an acquired taste.

I never heard her before, but clicked on her name cuz I liked it so much...
Tom Waits - Long Way Home
(Apr 13, 2006 - 07:32)
pianocomposer wrote:

goddamn. what strange ears you have, my dear. waits has destroyed his vocal cords. but a good songwriter. 7

I like his voice, both before and after the damage. I'll admit, my favorite performances are from his early years, but the later stuff is still lovely. I rarely prefer covers of his songs to the originals
Tina Dico - Nobody's Man
(Mar 31, 2006 - 00:58)
well, i like it. i think all you nay sayers down below just have poor listening skills. I didn't get any kind of man hating vibes off of this.

Is this a cover? Somehow it seems really familiar.
Hank Williams - Ramblin Man
(Mar 29, 2006 - 04:21)
God I love this song.

It's the second song I learned to play on the guitar, and I used to sing it with a band consisting of two friends of mine. But Scott died, and richard got a girlfriend, and thus the band ended...

But my point was, what a great song...
Timbuk 3 - Easy
(Mar 27, 2006 - 08:20)
wondertoofar wrote:
you mean they put out more than one song?

sounds like they shouldn't have bothered.

I'm amazed how many negative posts these guys got. I quite like them. In fact, this has long been one of my favorite albums.
Talk Talk - Eden
(Mar 22, 2006 - 03:41)
"velvet underground homage"? i dunno, I'd call it more rip off. At first i got my hopes up for the vu, then I realized they were just sampling.

A case could be made that I have a bias against sampling, but there are a few sampled pieces that I really liked (this remix of Bob Marley's Sun is Shining springs to mind). This one didn't qualify though. It's not bad. just mediocre....
Kings of Convenience - Homesick
(Mar 05, 2006 - 05:55)
Boy, I seem to be in minority, but I quite liked the song. I do like Simon and Garfunkle, but have suffered from overexposure to their stuff.

Yeah, this song is obviously heavily inspired by S&G, but so what? All art and music is a combination of imitation, permutation and inspiration in varying degrees.

Okay, I've only heard it the once now, but I'm curious enough to want to hear more of their stuff. It may be that after hearing several of their songs I'll come to the conclusion that they are overly derivative and unoriginaly, but I didn't get that impression from this one listening.