Gosh, it hurts me to read the opinions of all you old-tarted bodies out there. Not only do you impell the greatness of this band, but you also make a fool out of yourselves!

The Unplugged Album is a great piece of "art" in the music industry. Just listen to "todays youth" listens to and you'll understand.

And no, I'm not like 40 years..

bluedot wrote:
I hardly think they spawned that, exactly--maybe they brought it back, but every adolescent/early 20s generation (at least in the States) has found some way of expressing that since the '50s, and perhaps that's more visible now that cultural marketing (at least in popular music) has given greater access to artists who are more or less that young themselves.. In as much as what's expressed is not just personal angst but a politicized sense of disaffection and alienation from what is everywhere represented as mainstream society and social norms, I think the early '90s had much to give the young to feel that way about.

Same thing punk did for the generation before, even if it found a different way of expressing it.

designerGirl wrote:

...and there's all the 'angst" comments on here as well.

I think Curt & the boys are part of a string of greatness that started before elvis, went on through blues and the beatles and dozens of other perfect acts. Can I say "why"?? Probably not, other than my gut feeling about Nirvana is that there was something truthful & honest about what they were doing. Maybe Cobain's subject matter was angst, and a raging anger at the marginalization a lot of people feel from what the world considers "normal"; but to me, he managed a pure *expression* of his feelings that didn't seem calculated or phony. For evey frat boy that just heard loud guitars and screaming, there were 10 more people that felt very connected to Nirvana's music and would be equally at a loss to explain why.

I get the same feeling from a CD I have of Kathlen battle singing Mozart Arias, and I got it seeing Eddie Van Halen as a 20-ish kid on his first tour in a midsized hall... that of someone who has something to say that's a little hard to put into words, but comes out in their music as somehow completely articulated at an abstract & gut level. To me, that's greatness in art, and the equal of great poets or paimters. The subject matter isn't as important as the perfection of the expression.

Reading all of the Tori Amos vs. Kate Bush posts here hits me the same way; for me, Tori's got something that Kate will never come close to. It's whacked out and abstract but it does wrap itself around all the complex wierdness of my psyche; When i crank up "Jaurez" in my car, I hear a level of greatness and expression that is rare in popular music. And yeah, lots of people simply don't hear it... in fact, they hear nails on a chalkboard. Keeps life interesting I suppose...

Everybody snoring yet??

I never understood the fascination with this band.

Amazing version of a great song which was too drenched in noise and feedback in its original incarnation on "In utero". The acoustic version really makes the melody shine. One has to wonder which direction Nirvana would have evolved if Kurt had found a reason to stay alive?

He and the band already have. I find that as people get older they tend to roll their eyes at the generation that follows them and their wacky trends. All it takes it one to take the bull by the horns and shake things up a bit, though. Much like Cobain did in the early nineties.

uplarry wrote:

rexi wrote:

I certainly mourned when John Lennon died. Many others did the same when Bonham died.

I was back in college when Cobain died, and I can promise you that people in my classes were absolutely mourning his death. I liked Nirvana, but I couldn't relate. I simply didn't have that kind of relationship with the band or it's music, but I do recognize that they were probably the most important band in the 90's. They completely changed rock music....and for a brief time in the early 90's, commercial rock radio was actually interesting.

Nirvana put out a few good songs, none great. This one... overrated. Angst for angst sake, appealing to a generation that thinks that's enough of a reason for angst, I guess. I really tired of the whole Cobain/Love/Nirvana soap opera. Truly sorry Kurt killed himself, but that doesn't make the music interesting.

bluedot wrote:
having a teen has really opened my mind to this song in particular. I now find myself raising the volume when it comes on!

bluedot wrote:
having a teen has really opened my mind to this song in particular. I now find myself raising the volume when it comes on!

bluedot wrote:

yeah but those same dads give thier kids 15 bucks to buy this crap...So they'll still make it. and the radio will still jam it down our throats.

But I like this song. me>

oldpew wrote:
yeah, but look what they SPAWNED. A whole slew of pathetic, spoiled-brat, self-centered "alternative" bands playing snotty music about how depressing it is to be a teenager in this meaningless modern world where dad is an asshole because he doesn't understand how horrible it is to adolesce these days...

these guys really defined a new era of rock along with the rest of the Seattle grunge groups...

Some good stuff came from them all... This one isnt half bad... nice as a live acoustic version... This one isnt quite as painful...

FeatFanMike wrote:
Good to know that there's others out there that share my point of view. I never figured out Kurt's appeal. If I can sing better than him in the shower then he must be bad...

Grunge has never appealed to me personally, but I am grateful to Kurt and the boys for killing off the hair bands.

"...choking on the ashes of a memory..."
"...all alone is all we are..."

sigh. indeed.

rexi wrote:.
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That is an arsehollish thing to say...

DavidCarrico wrote:

oh shut up! Next yuo'll tell me you mourned for Princess Di?

miss you Kurt! Thanks, bill!

yeah.

many thanks for putting this in the mix.

That's funny. One of the reasons I find it hard to listen to much of the "pop" music my 12 yo daughter listens to is because of the overwrought style that many of the artists seem to adopt. They orgasmically slide every note up and down several octaves while singing about - well fairly inane stuff. I guess the same could be said about grunge - angst, angst, angst - over what. Somehow though, I like it better. Maybe I'll go easy on my daughter next time she switches the car radio station on me :D

Ah, even today Nirvan can stir up trouble.

Maybe because you lead a rather sheltered life with nothing worth getting worked up over other than what shade of white to paint the bathroom.

Was Kurt suffering from a serious case of constipation when he recorded this?

It sure sounds like it.

Ack! Too much angst! Nothing is worth getting that worked up over.

Any chance of getting the last track on this album -- Where Did You Sleep Last Night -- played at RP? You never hear it on FM, but it's by far the best cut on the album.

Thank goodness I'm not the only one!!
but in all honesty.. the only thing I can be thankful of them for, was letting Weird Al parody Teen Spirit .. :) LMAO at that remake.. I think it honestly summed up what I hated most about Nirvana..

"...and I don't know what I'm singing..."
"...warble goble argl??? !@#$!??..."
mouth of marbles 'n all!!

kiss my you cobainites!

/end rant

I like Nirvana.
I miss Cobain as much as the next 90's grunge girl.

But I don't know, I was shocked to hear it here.

Even though I've only been listening for a day lol.

Here Kurt . . . I gotta little kiss for ya! No apologies necessary.



(Sorry to all the Nirvana fans out there, but not only does this song suck, the live version sucks out loud.)

IMHO, Kurt was an over-rated icon who had the attention and adoration of bazillions of fans in the palm of his hand, and instead of doing something meaningful with it, chose to give all his fans the finger as a way of saying thank you.