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Artist:Peter Gabriel [ more ]
Song:Of These, Hope
Album:Passion (soundtrack) [ info ]
Released:1989
Last Played:May 01, 2013 - 00:09
Avg. Rating:8.1  (Total Ratings: 963)
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1 votes: 15 (1.6%)2 votes: 13 (1.3%)3 votes: 16 (1.7%)4 votes: 12 (1.2%)5 votes: 18 (1.9%)6 votes: 35 (3.6%)7 votes: 120 (12%)8 votes: 298 (31%)9 votes: 256 (27%)10 votes: 180 (19%)
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ilibjorn
(San Antonio, TX)
Posted: Dec 22, 2007 - 05:45 

another great cd we own thanks to RP! 8.
jjbix
(san diego)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 20:18 

Bill tonight has been sublime!!! what an excellent run!!! THanks!
Roverfish
(Tucson, AZ - Thanks for visiting...now go home!)
Posted: Nov 20, 2007 - 20:28 

Perhaps something of a tangent, but if you've not read Nikos Kazantzakis' masterpiece, you're missing out. What's most remarkable to me is how the book represented his personal testament of his own faith, only to be banned by the Roman Catholic Church and cause the author near excommunication from the Greek Orthodox Church. His reply was: "You gave me a curse, I give you a blessing: may your conscience be as clear as mine and may you be as moral and religious as I." I'm guessing I would have enjoyed meeting him.

Truly outstanding tune from a truly outstanding album from the leftovers of a truly outstanding movie.
Land_Shark
(Atlanta, GA)
Posted: Nov 13, 2007 - 10:47 

andycollingridge wrote:
This track, as with the album as a whole, is a superb melange of world music's eclecticism and rhythmic drive with the delicate, self-referential structures of the best modern orchestral music, all mixed together with Gabriel's understanding of how to make 'big' music not sound overly bombastic. A gem.


Now, that's a review!
andycollingridge
(London, UK)
Posted: Oct 22, 2007 - 05:47 

This track, as with the album as a whole, is a superb melange of world music's eclecticism and rhythmic drive with the delicate, self-referential structures of the best modern orchestral music, all mixed together with Gabriel's understanding of how to make 'big' music not sound overly bombastic. A gem.
Gaylord_Meatface
(Edmonton)
Posted: Sep 27, 2007 - 08:20 

The Album takes a while to get in to. But some of it, like this one, is just amazing, borrowing on many styles and technologies to come up with a great and unique sound.

Bravo for playing it.
Pyro
Posted: Sep 27, 2007 - 08:18 

secretsauce wrote:


Ehm. As it's many years since I've seen the movie, I don't recall if this particular piece is actually in the film.

But in any case, that "fool" would be Martin Scorcese ... and it would not be so much that he "rejected" it, but that Gabriel wrote more music than would fit (spacewise, or themewise) in the movie ... or even that Gabriel produced some pieces for the soundtrack album *after* the film completion.

Why can't people just compliment something without trashing something else.


Ok, I retract the "fool" comment. Here's what Amazon had to say. (You are correct!) "With the film score complete Gabriel still felt he had more to do, and Passion is the polished result of taking the score and remaking it to stand alone."

I don't think I was trashing anything. I love Scorcese, the film, the soundtrack, this CD, Gabriel.
1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California)
Posted: Sep 11, 2007 - 15:23 

Hauntingly beautiful song
secretsauce
Posted: Aug 20, 2007 - 17:44 

Pyro wrote:
Didn't he write this FOR that movie, but it was rejected? Fools.


Ehm. As it's many years since I've seen the movie, I don't recall if this particular piece is actually in the film.

But in any case, that "fool" would be Martin Scorcese ... and it would not be so much that he "rejected" it, but that Gabriel wrote more music than would fit (spacewise, or themewise) in the movie ... or even that Gabriel produced some pieces for the soundtrack album *after* the film completion.

Why can't people just compliment something without trashing something else.
secretsauce
Posted: Aug 20, 2007 - 11:09 

mikemiller34 wrote:
So definitive that even the soundtrack of The Passion of the Christis a knockoff.

Of course, the title of that film is a knockoff also, as the original title of The Last Temptation was Passion.


So strange how misinformation spreads:

The movie (directed by Martin Scorcese) is based on the controversial novel The Last Temptation of Christ (or just The Last Temptation) by the Greek author Nikos Kazantzakis (written in 1951). Neither the movie, nor the novel was ever (as far as I know) originally titled Passion.

The soundtrack (by Peter Gabriel) of the movie was titled Passion by PG.

To say that Mel Gibson's title (The Passion of the Christ) is ripping off either Scorcese or Gabriel is a bit unfair.

Both Gibson and Gabriel are making reference to the theological term "Passion." This term (from the Christian latin 'passus' ... to suffer) has been around since the 2nd century, and refers specifically to the suffering of Christ in the hours leading up to, and including his crucifixion. A "passion play" is any dramatic reenactment of these hours.
MojoJojo
(Indianapolis, IN USA)
Posted: Aug 20, 2007 - 10:39 

Lotus_Miata wrote:


No, but close!


mattt
(Undisclosed Location)
Posted: Aug 20, 2007 - 10:39 

ChardRemains wrote:
Thanks, sauce. I was wondering what this was... until I found that it is soundtrack music, not popular music. What film? Any?

The Last Temptation of Christ

dharmanavy
(Sandiego)
Posted: Aug 18, 2007 - 15:33 

Bravo!!!




shakitten wrote:


In a sense of spiritual sacredness as divine sensual ecstacy, yes, it's VERY erotic.

Sex is a divine union...or, it's SUPPOSED to be. Our current culture sees it more as a act of instant gratification and "flesh smacking". However, in it's truest sense, sex is inviting The Divine into union with you and your beloved. This album totally gets that...

Lotus_Miata
(High in the Mountains Above Southern California)
Posted: Jul 26, 2007 - 11:12 


skdenfeld
(Bend, Oregon)
Posted: Jul 26, 2007 - 11:10 

shakitten wrote:
Sex is a divine union...or, it's SUPPOSED to be. Our current culture sees it more as a act of instant gratification and "flesh smacking". However, in it's truest sense, sex is inviting The Divine into union with you and your beloved. This album totally gets that...

Well said!
ChardRemains
(Pepperland)
Posted: Jul 26, 2007 - 11:09 

Thanks, sauce. I was wondering what this was... until I found that it is soundtrack music, not popular music. What film? Any?
kcar
Posted: Jul 19, 2007 - 22:47 

secretsauce wrote:


I cannot recommend this CD enough. All of it. Every single track.

Regardless of what you think of Peter Gabriel this soundtrack is a masterpiece. It is not a Peter Gabriel album ... this is not PG as a songwriter and singer ... this is PG as composer and producer ... a very different CD.

One of the few CDs where I have owned 3 copies (and keep giving it away, and buying a new one).



Yes, and again yes. Passion takes me to different worlds when I listen to it. I never saw the movie so I can't say how well this music worked with the film, but this CD is definitely a desert island disc for me.
secretsauce
Posted: Jul 10, 2007 - 16:40 

wychwood wrote:
Good track, anyway; I shall have to look for this album.


I cannot recommend this CD enough. All of it. Every single track.

Regardless of what you think of Peter Gabriel this soundtrack is a masterpiece. It is not a Peter Gabriel album ... this is not PG as a songwriter and singer ... this is PG as composer and producer ... a very different CD.

One of the few CDs where I have owned 3 copies (and keep giving it away, and buying a new one).
shakitten
Posted: Jun 18, 2007 - 12:54 

Barman wrote:


I have never thought of this as erotic. Was it?


In a sense of spiritual sacredness as divine sensual ecstacy, yes, it's VERY erotic.

Sex is a divine union...or, it's SUPPOSED to be. Our current culture sees it more as a act of instant gratification and "flesh smacking". However, in it's truest sense, sex is inviting The Divine into union with you and your beloved. This album totally gets that...
wychwood
(out of my mind, England)
Posted: Jun 18, 2007 - 12:46 

mikemiller34 wrote:
Of course, the title of that film is a knockoff also, as the original title of The Last Temptation was Passion.


...only a knockoff in the sense that they're both taking the title from the actual Biblical Passion. It's not something that Last Temptation came up with.

Good track, anyway; I shall have to look for this album.
Pyro
Posted: Jun 18, 2007 - 12:44 

12
harmaton
Posted: Jun 18, 2007 - 12:41 

I used to listen to this cd all the time... its been over 10 years ... thanks!
On_The_Beach
(Vancouver, Canada)
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 16:09 

UltraNurd wrote:
Some of a genre's listeners having bad habits doesn't invalidate the genre :oP.

I've got nothing against Trance or E or Raves; I'm just saying Gabriel was making that kind of music before it was called "Trance". And yes, one could argue that similar music has been around for centuries.
Pyro
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 15:33 

mikemiller34 wrote:
So definitive that even the soundtrack of The Passion of the Christis a knockoff.

Of course, the title of that film is a knockoff also, as the original title of The Last Temptation was Passion.


Didn't he write this FOR that movie, but it was rejected? Fools.


mikemiller34
(Milwaukee, Wisconsin)
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 15:25 

So definitive that even the soundtrack of The Passion of the Christis a knockoff.

Of course, the title of that film is a knockoff also, as the original title of The Last Temptation was Passion.
UltraNurd
(Boston, MA)
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 15:16 

On_The_Beach wrote:
Gabriel was doing "trance" music long before the E-popping ravers came along and "borrowed" it.


Some of a genre's listeners having bad habits doesn't invalidate the genre :oP.
davin
(Victoria, British Columbia)
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 15:15 

On_The_Beach wrote:
Gabriel was doing "trance" music long before the E-popping ravers came along and "borrowed" it.


trancing out to music is as old as the drum itself, i wouldn't credit gabriel for anything other than a brilliant piece of music right here.
Pyro
Posted: May 24, 2007 - 15:13 

Barman wrote:


I have never thought of this as erotic. Was it?


I totally think it's erotic!
Barman
(Milan, Italy)
Posted: May 18, 2007 - 04:34 

tapatia wrote:


My high school boyfriend and I damn near wore his copy of the CD out when we were, um, alone together.


I have never thought of this as erotic. Was it?

Lotus_Miata
(High in the Mountains Above Southern California)
Posted: May 16, 2007 - 09:37 

Geez, I love this!
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