fredriley wrote: 
Yes, I totally agree with all of that and I do understand The Clash's importance from that standpoint. I just don't think that you can be the "only band that matters" without leaving a much more pronounced musical statement. The main purpose of a band is to play music after all. I suppose that is why although I enjoy some Punk music, as a genre just am not impressed from a purely musical standpoint. But to each his own.

 hallogallo wrote:
 
On NPR recently there was a long story about the real 'Johnny Appleseed'. Very interesting. He was a real person who planted thousands of apple trees. FACT.

Two facts in one day! Dig.

 fredriley wrote: 
Right said Fred! This kind of dialogue is why I love these forums... Makes the occasional claptrap bearable.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
There's more to being a band than music. Indeed, there's more to music than music. Context is important. Musically, most punk was crap - the Pistols barely managed 5 chords amongst them - but the social movement was crucial to the 70s musically, politically and socially. The Clash stood out because of their political and social commitment, and their sheer brio. They were a part of 70s and early 80s working-class culture at a time of very sharp class division brought about by the Thatcher regime. I don't know if this commitment and culture crossed The Pond ok, though I'd have thought that the US working class was suffering similarly under Reaganomics so I'd expect that it had some resonances.

Musically, they tried many different styles, sometimes with success (Guns of Brixton, for instance), sometimes not, so it's not as if they were one-trick ponies.

The main point is that you can't judge The Clash purely as a band in an ahistorical and apolitical context.

Love this song!

Joe Strummer kicks ass.

FACT

I am starting to really like this song!!!!   Sounds fantastic on the 128AAC feed. Sounds like Joe is right here in my office.

you just can't listen to this track too many times. love.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
If you think that is funny, could you explain to me from a musical standpoint just why The Clash is so revered? I think of them in the same way as The Ramones. They were a neat little novelty act, but musically certainly nothing noteworthy or outstanding. Just another punk band.

 HazzeSwede wrote: 
I stand by the statement that The Clash was mediocre. They did not do anything outstanding. They were not bad, but they also were not the only band that matters and deserving of being hailed as one of the best bands ever, musically, they simply just were not.

I think I might even have this whole thing on mp3.  Gotta go dig through my archived music.....  Love Joe Strummer and his Mescaleros - far ahead of their time.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
And you call yourself a musical snobb..a nobb..at the most !

 sirdroseph wrote: 

 myersei wrote: 

That is because Joe bloomed after he left the Clash and became really great where The Clash was just mediocre.

I love Joe Strummer... sigh. so great.

 spacemoose wrote: 
Every time I hear it I get a huge pang of regret that They canceled Joe Strummer's life.

been listening to this station for about 10 years and have listened to them play this song for about as long.  just realized who Joe Strummer is.  been a fan of the clash for a while (not a huge fan, but always dug them).  man i feel a little stupid.

 dctrpunda wrote: 
Yeah, where can we get your designs?

 calypsus_1 wrote: 
that is one cool sticker

Happy Birthday Sept 26th to John Chapman born in 1774. He was better known as Johnny Appleseed.

Joe Strummer by ~ducksXsayXmoo
Caitlin!

I'm a big fan of the Clash. I've kind of been designing a sticker a day lately too, which is pretty sweet.

 plaice3 wrote: 
definitely triggered a mysterious fond wistful feeling, then yea, paid my respects to John from Cincinatti.Good song.

 spacemoose wrote: 
Oh, me TOO!!!

 gearfab wrote: 
Me too.  Every time I hear this song though, I feel a huge pang of regret that they cancelled "John from Cincinatti"

 hippiechick wrote: 

I'm with you. A great loss.

Love this whole record!!!!!

... had to go killin' all the bees.

LOVE this song! 

8 —> 9. It gets better with every listen. Heck the whole album is great.