NutsyUK
(London UK) | | Posted: Feb 18, 2006 - 14:25 | |
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SuperWeh
(51° 59' 46" N, 4° 21' 13" E) | | Posted: Jan 20, 2006 - 05:52 | |
rascal420 wrote:Isn't "Oriental" non-PC? Shouldn't the album title be changed to "Asian Melody" or something before someone gets offended?
Someone here must be on top of this situation.
"orient" simply means "east" like occident means "west", derived from old french which in turn derived it from latin.
Having said that I know that certain words can become pc or non-pc regardless of their original meaning. I have never considered "oriental" as derogatory nor have I ever heard anyone use it in a way which implied that it is was meant to be derogatory. |
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rah
| | Posted: Jan 05, 2006 - 16:30 | |
it might just be my mood this afternoon, but i can't help but imagine this as the soundtrack to an army-recruitment film.
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fuh2
(I think I'm in the USA) | | Posted: Jan 05, 2006 - 16:29 | |
Strange beautiful music! Old school on acid.
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xouba
(Corunna, Spain) | | Posted: Nov 08, 2005 - 08:29 | |
One of the very few good songs in this LP. I'd save "Hill groove" too, but maybe nothing else in this LP is really worthwhile. The version of "Sleepwalk" that got played sometime here is yucky (I like the one by Larry Carlton much more - maybe it's the original one?).
All of this IMHO, of course.
And I say that even when he's my favourite guitar player. But this LP sucked. If you want to hear something good, get the latest one ("Is there love in space?"). Much better.
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higado
(españa) | | Posted: Nov 08, 2005 - 08:25 | |
ScottFromWyoming wrote:After not making a decision on this song for quite a while, I've heard it enough now to say that it's pretty rank. 1.
me too. |
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BKardon
(Boulder, CO) | | Posted: Oct 19, 2005 - 12:53 | |
janeanger wrote:
the word "oriental" used when referring to someone of asian descent has become viewed as offensive or derogatory. there are two main reasons for this:
1. there are obviously many countries & ethnicities that fall under the umbrella word "asian" & it is remarkably ethnocentric to lump them all together when they are so distinct & varied;
2. because the term "oriental" was used by imperialist european & american cultures who thought the eastern cultures to be inferior to their own.
check it out: (click here)
at any rate, good song. i don't think satriani is trying to use the word to be offensive -- especially because a melody is an inanimate object & "oriental" is still an acceptable adjective for that usage.
If I recall, his wife is Asian.
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janeanger
(Delaware, USA) | | Posted: Sep 10, 2005 - 14:03 | |
rolf wrote:  How did you get this idea ???
the word "oriental" used when referring to someone of asian descent has become viewed as offensive or derogatory. there are two main reasons for this:
1. there are obviously many countries & ethnicities that fall under the umbrella word "asian" & it is remarkably ethnocentric to lump them all together when they are so distinct & varied;
2. because the term "oriental" was used by imperialist european & american cultures who thought the eastern cultures to be inferior to their own.
check it out: (click here)
at any rate, good song. i don't think satriani is trying to use the word to be offensive -- especially because a melody is an inanimate object & "oriental" is still an acceptable adjective for that usage. |
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rolf
(Frankfurt, Germany) | | Posted: Jul 28, 2005 - 01:13 | |
rascal420 wrote:Isn't "Oriental" non-PC? ... How did you get this idea ??? |
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ploafmaster
(Richmond, VA) | | Posted: Jul 13, 2005 - 06:12 | |
rascal420 wrote:Isn't "Oriental" non-PC? Shouldn't the album title be changed to "Asian Melody" or something before someone gets offended?
Someone here must be on top of this situation.
It was my understanding (though I may very well be incorrect) that "Oriental" refers to stuff (not people) from the Orient, which is a region stretching form the Middle East to the Far East. Or maybe it's people to the east of the Ural Mountains? And those of us to the west are "Occidental," I believe.
As to it's PC-ness...step 1)Just don't call a person, "Oriental" if you're worried about it, and 2)Throw political correctionism in the garbage. |
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rascal420
(Truckee, CA - 5000 feet above Paradise) | | Posted: Jun 28, 2005 - 13:05 | |
Isn't "Oriental" non-PC? Shouldn't the album title be changed to "Asian Melody" or something before someone gets offended?
Someone here must be on top of this situation.
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shevek
(Piscataway, NJ) | | Posted: Jun 28, 2005 - 13:04 | |
brandog wrote:What is it that Joe has always been missing? He's always been a skillful guitarsit, intelligent arranger, and energetic performer, but there's something missing, and I've never been able to put my finger on it.
I think it may be an originality of style - there is a lot of blending of styles in Joe's work, and that may be too much of a good thing.
Skill is not everything. The guitar solo in 'Sympathy for the Devil' is NOT hard to play - but it speaks to me in a way that Satriani never will!! |
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BoFiS
(Cranford, NJ) | | Posted: Jun 13, 2005 - 19:57 | |
this song always reminds me of the fun F-Zero music or some other sorta futuristic racing game   |
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(former member)
(Right Here) | | Posted: May 15, 2005 - 12:08 | |
What is it that Joe has always been missing? He's always been a skillful guitarsit, intelligent arranger, and energetic performer, but there's something missing, and I've never been able to put my finger on it.
I think it may be an originality of style - there is a lot of blending of styles in Joe's work, and that may be too much of a good thing.
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BooKitty
(My Own Private Idaho.(Bklyn,NY)) | | Posted: Apr 30, 2005 - 20:54 | |
Cdog wrote:This does nothing for me
Are you sure that you're alive? |
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Cdog
(532 Miles South of Paradise, CA) | | Posted: Apr 16, 2005 - 05:13 | |
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Gregorama
(Austin, TX) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2005 - 12:27 | |
Not that familiar with Satriani, but like this. If y'all forget who he is, and whatever baggage that goes along with that, I think it is a decent piece of guitarwork.
Maybe there is a little guitar shredding thrown it--maybe that's braggadocio, but I think if you just heard this song, alone on its own, without knowing who it was, (and without an inherent dislike of the guy) that it stands up as a pretty good piece of work.
Not a Michaelangelo, or a da Vinci. But it doesn't suck either. IMHO.
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schopiebettyford
| | Posted: Apr 01, 2005 - 12:25 | |
If there were one artist and one song that should never, ever be played again, it would be Joe Satriani and it would be this song.
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dsmcd01
| | Posted: Mar 17, 2005 - 19:20 | |
vandal wrote:Guitar masturbation ...
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DD Avatard
(6 feet asunder) | | Posted: Feb 25, 2005 - 10:18 | |
trekhead wrote:THERE WE GO!
A nice, eclectic one from Joe to set things right!
A 9.
I wonder if anyone has ever approached Mr. S. for doing Sci Fi soundtracks. Good stuff!
Who's this Mr. S? Very mysterious. |
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radiomao
(Phoenix, AZ) | | Posted: Feb 25, 2005 - 10:16 | |
Yes, yes, yes! (a la Meg Ryan)...I love Joe S.
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carpwall
| | Posted: Feb 16, 2005 - 07:28 | |
Isn't this the music from Command and Conquer?
NOD's on the march again...
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trekhead
| | Posted: Feb 16, 2005 - 07:15 | |
THERE WE GO!
A nice, eclectic one from Joe to set things right!
A 9.
I wonder if anyone has ever approached Mr. S. for doing Sci Fi soundtracks. Good stuff!
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vandal
(Portland, OR) | | Posted: Feb 01, 2005 - 14:16 | |
Guitar masturbation at its worst. Satriani is overrated and underwhelming.
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Trustocity
(Boston, baby) | | Posted: Feb 01, 2005 - 13:37 | |
joempie wrote:I don't care how difficult this stuff is to play. It sounds terrible, except for the basic melody...
I'm somewhere in the middle on this. Still feel great instrumentalists need great songwriters-slash-collaborators to steer them. Clapton immediately comes to mind. |
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Platypus
(here, now) | | Posted: Jan 17, 2005 - 19:37 | |
ciscochasbro wrote:Ya know, Satriani taught Steve Vai...
oh yeah... i know it (he taught Hammett as well). to my ears though:
Satch = technical genius w/ no soul to his music,
Vai = both technical & soulful, and then some. |
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Beastie
(Rye, NY) | | Posted: Jan 12, 2005 - 05:11 | |
Wonderful stuff. Satriani is up there with all the master guitarrists of our time.
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Alexandra
(A flooded Ohio!) | | Posted: Jan 12, 2005 - 05:10 | |
joempie wrote:I don't care how difficult this stuff is to play. It sounds terrible, except for the basic melody...
In the words of a character from the movie The Commitments...."musical wankin'." |
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mojoman
| | Posted: Dec 28, 2004 - 11:36 | |
joempie wrote:I don't care how difficult this stuff is to play. It sounds terrible, except for the basic melody...
Huh? How can you say this sounds terrible?  |
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joempie
(way over yonder...) | | Posted: Dec 19, 2004 - 06:31 | |
I don't care how difficult this stuff is to play. It sounds terrible, except for the basic melody...
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