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Artist:RJD2 [ more ]
Song:Smoke and Mirrors
Album:Dead Ringer [ info ]
Released:2002
Last Played:May 21, 2013 - 01:57
Avg. Rating:7.1  (Total Ratings: 1100)
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1 votes: 9 (0.82%)2 votes: 19 (1.7%)3 votes: 25 (2.3%)4 votes: 16 (1.5%)5 votes: 55 (5%)6 votes: 137 (12%)7 votes: 338 (31%)8 votes: 347 (32%)9 votes: 108 (9.8%)10 votes: 46 (4.2%)
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NatureDeficit
(Virginia)
Posted: Jan 22, 2013 - 16:14 

I like this.
If for nothing else because it gets everyone's comment commented on.
and then sum
socalhol
(Seattle)
Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 14:46 

 StoneyG wrote:
Once again, could we hear some other RJD2 tracks, or just the original Marion Black, please!!???

It was ok the first 100 times.
 
It's a 10 in my book — I for one would be very content hearing it another 100 times....  {#Wink}
zair99
(In Cognito)
Posted: Dec 29, 2012 - 01:34 

I must have been in a bad mood the last time I rated this.  6 >7 for me!
three_crows
(In the trees and hills of Geauga County, Ohio, USA)
Posted: Dec 22, 2012 - 07:53 

Nice segue from RJD2 Smoke and Mirrors to Portishead Sour Times. Well done!
jocelynsart
Posted: Dec 15, 2012 - 05:49 

oh! like :-)
coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Dec 06, 2012 - 21:49 

where's my helipad ??
logic
(Divide, CO)
Posted: Nov 20, 2012 - 22:45 

7 -> 8

Seem to enjoy this one more the more I hear it.
valeriogonzalez
(Quito, Ecuador)
Posted: Oct 20, 2012 - 14:16 

"And music continues with RJD2"... the best comment I've heard from Bill.
rockpommel16
(rockpommel´s land...near the netherlands)
Posted: Oct 13, 2012 - 12:38 

  cohifi wrote:
Nice.     Can't wait to star wars in 3D...
 

oldsaxon wrote:

R23D?  C3DO?
Sjaaks wrote:

With the all mighty 3Darth Vader!
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"     
  .......darth vador..................
Sjaaks
(Horst, Netherlands)
Posted: Aug 03, 2012 - 03:21 

 cohifi wrote:
Nice.     Can't wait to star wars in 3D...
 

oldsaxon wrote:

R23D?  C3DO?
 
With the all mighty 3Darth Vader!
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"     
StoneyG
(Just east of The Rockies; north of the 49th)
Posted: Apr 20, 2012 - 22:24 

Once again, could we hear some other RJD2 tracks, or just the original Marion Black, please!!???

It was ok the first 100 times.
StoneyG
(Just east of The Rockies; north of the 49th)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 20:21 

 HazzeSwede wrote:
Had this one at seven...{#Stupid}..five it is !

 
Word.

You should play the original sometime.  This was kind of neat the first or second time.


Ag3nt0rang3
(Canada)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 07:54 

 spacemoose wrote:

...deletia...

 Yet no one derides Shakespeare as a "paste-up artist".  Of course, by today's standards he might be guilty of copyright violation.

 
I think his takes on the Roman stories would be in the public domain, but I'm not so sure about his Italian plays... :-p
oldsaxon
(United Kingdom)
Posted: Feb 17, 2012 - 11:37 

 cohifi wrote:
Nice.     Can't wait to star wars in 3D...

 
 
R23D?  C3DO?
TerryS
(Another SW)
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 - 23:04 

Wondering where the lions are?
cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 - 22:22 

Nice.     Can't wait to star wars in 3D...

 
ZiegZeon
(Tulsa, OK)
Posted: Nov 23, 2011 - 10:48 

 ziggytrix wrote:


Not everything is subjective.  If I tried to tell you that objects, when dropped, most often tended to float up into space, I would hope you would have the good sense to think that I was either lying or very, very confused.

Though I suppose my original comment could have been said a little more nicely.  It's just that people calling every kind of sample-based or electronic music "techno" is a pet-peeve of mine.

 
I have to agree with you 100%. I feel that both techno and electronica are completley diffirent facets of music, and yet everyone lumps them together. Sort of like with metal and nu-rock, there are significant diffirences.

ziggytrix
(Dallas, TX)
Posted: Sep 29, 2011 - 14:34 

 jkhandy wrote:

Wow, such judgement here.  Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one and so be it.  The person who thinks he/she knows, really knows nothing.  IMHO......{#Doh}
 

Not everything is subjective.  If I tried to tell you that objects, when dropped, most often tended to float up into space, I would hope you would have the good sense to think that I was either lying or very, very confused.

Though I suppose my original comment could have been said a little more nicely.  It's just that people calling every kind of sample-based or electronic music "techno" is a pet-peeve of mine.

Xstar
(Florence, Kentucky)
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 - 04:33 

 spacemoose wrote:

I would go farther.  All creative work, is in some sense paste-up work.  Anyone who sees farther than most does so by standing on the shoulders of giants, and for that matter, midgets.  Even if you only raise an art or science by a couple of metaphorical millimeters, that's a couple millimeters more than we had before.

One of the worst aspects of our corporate-dominated culture, and the complicated web of propaganda and legislation that constitutes the concept "intellectual property" (the term is in itself propaganda) is the denigration of that aspect of how creativity works.   While it's true that some things are more obviously derivative than others, it's also true that every creative work derives in some fashion from some previous creative work.

Before the commercialization, corporitisation and commodification of culture which took place in the last century, people were much more free in this aspect of their creative works.  That's why there are, for example, so many interesting and different versions of any old folk song .  I have at least 20 versions of John Henry, just to take one for instance.

Indeed some of historys most creative and talented work could be derided as 'paste up' work.  Shakespeare, to take a famous example, hardly created any plots at all.  Most of his plays were retellings of existing works.  It was the skill and mastery with which he retold the story that made it art, not the 'originality'.  Yet no one derides Shakespeare as a "paste-up artist".  Of course, by today's standards he might be guilty of copyright violation.

 
YEA!  What HE said!  More or less.


HazzeSwede
(Vinyl Land)
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 - 04:32 

Had this one at seven...{#Stupid}..five it is !

jkhandy
(Near the ocean (in my mind))
Posted: Aug 11, 2011 - 21:25 

 ziggytrix wrote:

Learn the difference between techno and hiphop, then come back and make an intelligent comment.

You're like the guy staring at the Pollock saying "my kid could do that!"

 
Wow, such judgement here.  Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one and so be it.  The person who thinks he/she knows, really knows nothing.  IMHO......{#Doh}
thediceareloaded
(Munich, Germany - and yes, it is cold here!)
Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 12:35 

 ziggytrix wrote:

Learn the difference between techno and hiphop, then come back and make an intelligent comment.

You're like the guy staring at the Pollock saying "my kid could do that!"
 
Love that comment! 

Or like Cy Twombly - may he rest in peace 
Dave_Mack
(In the Zone)
Posted: May 02, 2011 - 10:07 

 peter_james_bond wrote:
{#Drunk} I love the R2D2....the spunky little guy....but where's C3PO?
 
He made a record too, but it was so annoying nobody bought it.

socalhol
(Seattle)
Posted: Mar 31, 2011 - 19:03 

 smdeeg wrote:
Still enjoying this tune several year after being exposed to it on RP.  7 -> 8
 
Ah yes!  Me too — thanks RP for the introduction to RJD2.  Still loving it 5 years later and counting.  9—>10 for me


ziggytrix
(Dallas, TX)
Posted: Mar 24, 2011 - 15:02 

 CaptTofu wrote:
Another Moby-like old recording of some blues singer mixed into some techno music. Maybe some day when they've sampled all the various blues songs, they'll have to resort to taking old recordings of the Carpenters or Jim Neighbors and mix that into some techno music.
 
Learn the difference between techno and hiphop, then come back and make an intelligent comment.

You're like the guy staring at the Pollock saying "my kid could do that!"

spacemoose
Posted: Mar 16, 2011 - 04:11 

 Proclivities wrote:

If a client wanted an old ad of theirs re-worked, then that was the job.  Designers are seldom in the position to tell clients where to spend their money.   The creativity and intelligence are expressed by the ability to complete a limited-resource job for a tight-fisted client.  If you're referring to the collage aspect of this song, there is a pretty long history of creativity and intelligence which has been referred to below.
 
I would go farther.  All creative work, is in some sense paste-up work.  Anyone who sees farther than most does so by standing on the shoulders of giants, and for that matter, midgets.  Even if you only raise an art or science by a couple of metaphorical millimeters, that's a couple millimeters more than we had before.

One of the worst aspects of our corporate-dominated culture, and the complicated web of propaganda and legislation that constitutes the concept "intellectual property" (the term is in itself propaganda) is the denigration of that aspect of how creativity works.   While it's true that some things are more obviously derivative than others, it's also true that every creative work derives in some fashion from some previous creative work.

Before the commercialization, corporitisation and commodification of culture which took place in the last century, people were much more free in this aspect of their creative works.  That's why there are, for example, so many interesting and different versions of any old folk song .  I have at least 20 versions of John Henry, just to take one for instance.

Indeed some of historys most creative and talented work could be derided as 'paste up' work.  Shakespeare, to take a famous example, hardly created any plots at all.  Most of his plays were retellings of existing works.  It was the skill and mastery with which he retold the story that made it art, not the 'originality'.  Yet no one derides Shakespeare as a "paste-up artist".  Of course, by today's standards he might be guilty of copyright violation.

GT66
Posted: Jan 03, 2011 - 12:17 

 Rooney wrote:
Anybody understand what they were singing about?  (no fair looking at the lyrics)...Huh? Like, uh, what'd they say, dude?
 
Seriously?

efaulkjr
(San Antonio TX)
Posted: Jan 03, 2011 - 12:17 

Strange, yet, satisfying.
Rooney
(Near Paradise)
Posted: Nov 01, 2010 - 08:41 

Anybody understand what they were singing about?  (no fair looking at the lyrics)...Huh? Like, uh, what'd they say, dude?
Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Nov 01, 2010 - 05:56 

 Businessgypsy wrote:
Musical equivalent of a paste-up artist, in my estimation*.

*A paste-up artist, kiddies, was a person in the pre-computer art department who, among other things, took bits of type and art previously created for other purposes, coated the back with adhesive wax and composed it on a board to create a new ad without the expense (or creativity) of an original work. Clever work, but not original or necessarily intelligent. I still have callouses from #11 X-acto blade cuts.


 
If a client wanted an old ad of theirs re-worked, then that was the job.  Designers are seldom in the position to tell clients where to spend their money.   The creativity and intelligence are expressed by the ability to complete a limited-resource job for a tight-fisted client.  If you're referring to the collage aspect of this song, there is a pretty long history of creativity and intelligence which has been referred to below.
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