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Artist:U2 [ more ]
Song:Love And Peace Or Else
Album:How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb [ info ]
Released:2004
Last Played:Feb 17, 2009 - 23:31
Avg. Rating:5.9  (Total Ratings: 527)
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1 votes: 37 (7%)2 votes: 36 (6.8%)3 votes: 35 (6.6%)4 votes: 33 (6.3%)5 votes: 54 (10%)6 votes: 57 (11%)7 votes: 126 (24%)8 votes: 92 (17%)9 votes: 33 (6.3%)10 votes: 24 (4.6%)
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arighter2
(Iowa/on the great River)
Posted: May 27, 2005 - 08:21 

This album has really grown on me. However, this song seems to me to be one of the weaker offerings.
tony620d
(an office)
Posted: May 18, 2005 - 12:55 

ok bono, jump on the peace wagon, we get it. peace sells, but not enough buyers.
ploafmaster
(Richmond, VA)
Posted: May 18, 2005 - 12:52 

Skep wrote:
Initially when reading this post - thoughts of U2 being anti-Zionistic came into my mind but then when you think about it:

Lay down
Lay down your guns
All your daughters of Zion
All your Abraham sons

Suggests both Jews and Muslims.... since both are sons of Abraham (Isaac and Ishmael). So, to me, it just suggests peace as opposed to picking sides.... what do you guys think?

Also, anti-Semitism isn't applicable here since both Jews and Muslims are of emetic origin.

Finally, I was at the May 12, 2005, U2 concert in Chicago (which totally ROCKED!!!) and Bono made a particular effort to spell out that he thinks that all three major mono-theistic religions are on equal footing - as are all people. At least he is taking responsibility for his celebrity and using it for good and not hate mongering - and for that - I respect him.

Skep



Excellent! You can type in bold face!

This gets a 7 from me.
Skep
Posted: May 17, 2005 - 19:35 

Initially when reading this post - thoughts of U2 being anti-Zionistic came into my mind but then when you think about it:

Lay down
Lay down your guns
All your daughters of Zion
All your Abraham sons

Suggests both Jews and Muslims.... since both are sons of Abraham (Isaac and Ishmael). So, to me, it just suggests peace as opposed to picking sides.... what do you guys think?

Also, anti-Semitism isn't applicable here since both Jews and Muslims are of emetic origin.

Finally, I was at the May 12, 2005, U2 concert in Chicago (which totally ROCKED!!!) and Bono made a particular effort to spell out that he thinks that all three major mono-theistic religions are on equal footing - as are all people. At least he is taking responsibility for his celebrity and using it for good and not hate mongering - and for that - I respect him.

Skep



Marr wrote:


I can only assume that this is another attempt at TROLLing by physicsgenius. There are no lyrics that even suggest anti-semitism in this song. THe only ones that even come close are below.

We need
Love and peace
Love and peace

Lay down
Lay down your guns
All your daughters of Zion
All your Abraham sons

Now how does the suggestion of laying down guns and embracing peace and love get turned into anti-semitism?



Shesdifferent
(Just visiting this planet)
Posted: May 14, 2005 - 09:43 

First a 7, now a 9....love the driving groove behind it!
erik_1099
(North Carolina)
Posted: May 05, 2005 - 11:59 

One of my favorites from an otherwise lackluster album (Vertigo notwithstanding).

Fast Cars is also a dynamite track, included on international versions of the album, regrettably not on the US version.
mkd
(Eindhoven-leading in technology & sports)
Posted: Apr 15, 2005 - 04:18 


since the World Bank post didn't pan out for Bono, I wonder if his name is on the short list for Pope?


:nodhead: :nodhead:
BONO the first, i like it!!!
sugarbrown
Posted: Apr 13, 2005 - 10:08 

rp why pick the worst track on this cd to play and torture your listeners??
the rest of cd is really quite good! honestly!!!
pick some other tunes from this cd!
flandersdog
(the sunny Pac NW)
Posted: Apr 13, 2005 - 10:08 

call me selfish but I want U2 to break up. actually, I wish they'd broken up 10+ years ago after Zooropa, the last album they made that I feel is worth owning. the latest issue of Rolling Stone is saturated with Bono coverage and I was quite disappointed to read his quote that goes (more or less) like this: "we are greedy for our fans, our music, our future"

since the World Bank post didn't pan out for Bono, I wonder if his name is on the short list for Pope?
Eul0gy
(A Little To The Left)
Posted: Apr 06, 2005 - 05:19 

Trustocity wrote:

Interestingly, I've been reading up on Bono recently, and I think he's magnificent as human beings go.


I hate sting because he's convinced he can open people's minds with trite ramblings loosely set to inept imitations of music.

I now hate bono because he's convinced he can save the world with trite ramblings loosely set to inept imitations of music.
orpheus
(east coast)
Posted: Apr 04, 2005 - 14:40 

diane wrote:
This simple can't be by the same band that created Joshua Tree and other marvels up to the Zoocrapolla.
WHERE, OH WHERE HAS MY LITTLE U2 GONE?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE CAN THEY BE???



michaelc
(Walnut Creek, CA)
Posted: Apr 04, 2005 - 14:34 

MAKE IT STOP, PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
snorter
Posted: Mar 31, 2005 - 10:21 

Darlington wrote:
I've been a big U2 fan dating back to the early 80's and, for the most part, there has never been a U2 album that I absolutely never listen to until this one. Like many of the other posters, I have to say that it does absolutely nothing for me. Having said that, this album is worlds better than the egg laid last year by another one of my favorite bands, REM.

Despite all that, this song is passable, though.


I agree on a couple of things......REM/U2/...two of my favorites....this new album by U2 is somewhat unlistenable.......but ya gots' to remember that radio/media/etc.... poisons us every day. If I see Bono's face one more time on TV I'm gonna scream........"we just don't want to be a crappy band"........they should listen to "Boy" themselves and remember!!!!
Shesdifferent
(Desert metropolis via Arizona)
Posted: Mar 31, 2005 - 09:59 

Tony wrote:
As with some other posters, I aggree that U2 peaked earlier, and the new work has been lacking in some depth. This being said, this is definitely one of my favourites from the new album. The end of this song really reminds me of 'The end' by the doors, especially as seen in 'Apocalypse Now'
I agree....maybe they have mellowed with age, like fine wine?
Trustocity
(Boston, baby)
Posted: Mar 31, 2005 - 09:59 

flandersdog wrote:
I wish U2 had broken up ten or twelve years ago so that I could remember them fondly...


100% concur.

Interestingly, I've been reading up on Bono recently, and I think he's magnificent as human beings go. But I still hate this album.
diane
(seacoast, nh, usa)
Posted: Mar 29, 2005 - 17:20 

This simply can't be by the band that created Joshua Tree and other marvels up to the Zoocrapolla.
WHERE, OH WHERE HAS MY LITTLE U2 GONE?
OH WHERE, OH WHERE CAN THEY BE???

fungus6507
(Brookfield, IL)
Posted: Mar 22, 2005 - 11:48 

U2 - You can say what you want about the politics but who gives a rats a*s - they have cranked out some excellent music over the past 25 years
flandersdog
(the sunny Pac NW)
Posted: Mar 22, 2005 - 11:42 

I wish U2 had broken up ten or twelve years ago so that I could remember them fondly...
stevo_b
(Really Crunching Numbers Now!!!)
Posted: Mar 22, 2005 - 11:42 

I am so tired of this group.....
Darlington
(Columbia, South Carolina)
Posted: Mar 22, 2005 - 11:41 

I've been a big U2 fan dating back to the early 80's and, for the most part, there has never been a U2 album that I absolutely never listen to until this one. Like many of the other posters, I have to say that it does absolutely nothing for me. Having said that, this album is worlds better than the egg laid last year by another one of my favorite bands, REM.

Despite all that, this song is passable, though.
rgj13
Posted: Mar 22, 2005 - 11:40 

stornoway wrote:
U2 are one our our most successful exports to the US. Good riddance.



:-k

Your "location" states England, not Ireland.

For what it's worth. O:)
stornoway
(Dorset England)
Posted: Mar 15, 2005 - 00:09 

U2 are one our our most successful exports to the US. Good riddance.


Tony
(Ottawa, ON)
Posted: Feb 28, 2005 - 05:28 

As with some other posters, I aggree that U2 peaked earlier, and the new work has been lacking in some depth. This being said, this is definitely one of my favourites from the new album. The end of this song really reminds me of 'The end' by the doors, especially as seen in 'Apocalypse Now'
trekhead
Posted: Feb 15, 2005 - 05:16 

madtowner11 wrote:


Without even looking at the poster's name, I knew it was Trekhead.

This is one of my favorite songs off the new U2 album. I guess Vertigo is my fave, but they had to go ruin it by making me associate it with a stupid iPod commercial.


(sort of)
Thanks for confirming that I have become predictable....(is that a good thing?) But my comment was actually stream of consciousness from the previous tune. Became a joke about CHEESE...Meunster...I know what he says is 'MONSTER', but thought it was worth the shot. Not familiar with the IPOD ref. Be honest. Is it because ALL my U2's are 10's?
Mugro
(Lane Village, Massachusetts)
Posted: Feb 13, 2005 - 11:18 

Bono is political? Gee, I wouldn't know since I stopped listening to his empty suit blatherings years ago. Whatever he says is just mildly amusing to me now. When he opens his mouth, I hear "blah, blah, blah...blah, blah...."

Saying that Bono is political gives him too much credit for having actual intelligent thought.

I enjoy U2 music, and always have. I don't waste my time thinking about their politics, because in my mind it is just as pointless as pondering whether fish like Mozart.....
Marr
(Houston)
Posted: Feb 11, 2005 - 09:34 

physicsgenius wrote:
I was going to diss this song for being anti-semitic but I see it's by U2 so that's enough dissing right there.


I can only assume that this is another attempt at TROLLing by physicsgenius. There are no lyrics that even suggest anti-semitism in this song. THe only ones that even come close are below.

We need
Love and peace
Love and peace

Lay down
Lay down your guns
All your daughters of Zion
All your Abraham sons

Now how does the suggestion of laying down guns and embracing peace and love get turned into anti-semitism?
Beastie
(Rye, NY)
Posted: Feb 11, 2005 - 08:59 

jdolbow wrote:
I like this song - definitely reminds me of some Depeche Mode (as someone else suggested here), and it is different from their "usual" work.

The album is nice to listen too, but lyrically - I found it lacking. A lot of their earlier work could be interpreted on a number of different levels, whereas most of this album seems ... ahem... shallow? Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge U2 fan, but I'd have preferred they spent another two years on this coming up with better, more complete songs.


Wouldn't they have missed their quota of albums? Aren't bands obligated to come up with a ceratin amount of records, after they sign with a specific label (and cash the seven-figure checks derived from it)? If true, this would explain a lot of the less-inspired tracks from groups such as U2.
physicsgenius
Posted: Feb 11, 2005 - 08:51 

I was going to diss this song for being anti-semitic but I see it's by U2 so that's enough dissing right there.
madtowner11
Posted: Feb 11, 2005 - 08:47 

trekhead wrote:
OOOOOOH! Bono just said Meunster's back!


Without even looking at the poster's name, I knew it was Trekhead.

This is one of my favorite songs off the new U2 album. I guess Vertigo is my fave, but they had to go ruin it by making me associate it with a stupid iPod commercial.
Trustocity
(Boston, baby)
Posted: Jan 31, 2005 - 11:31 

jadewahoo wrote:
Art... music.. IS political. If it were not, it would lose it's capacity to evoke discourse, even a moment's ponder. That you may disagree with the socio-political stance of Bono does not in itself make him an idiot. Rather, that you would deem to comment upon his stance means that his art is efffective... it caused you to ponder and respond. Is U2 plotical? Well, you too.


I don't hate Bono's politics; I agree with most of them. I don't hate U2; their earlier albums are genius. I don't hate Bono's egotism; rock stars deserve to be megalomaniacs, that's how it works.

I just hate that they keep saying the same thing in the same way. Rev. 3:16 -- there's no such thing as lukewarm, just stuff that gravitates to cold and the rest that keeps warm. By staying the same, U2 grows cold. At least Salinger had the good sense to go into hiding after he created his masterpiece. What, is Bono too good to recluse?
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