idiot_wind
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PLEASE PLAY THE ENTIRE KIND OF BLUE ALBUM!
You can get a buzz off that album.
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TerryS (Another SW) | | Posted: May 17, 2013 - 18:22 | |
It IS necessarily so, just so.
This dates from the era when MD actually faced the audience BTW.
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CopyrightX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CopyrightX) | | Posted: Apr 16, 2013 - 10:38 | |
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mutepoint
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Toke (Bournemouth UK) | | Posted: Oct 10, 2012 - 04:29 | |
Sasha2001 wrote:
It's hard to argue with a statement like this because it's your opinion and because Miles was so HUGE. However, for all of music, much less jazz in particular, this view is problematic. Miles was never the guy who invented new styles or genres, he really was a genius at observing what was going on around him musically and than trying to bring that to a more main stream audience - as was the case with "Kind of Blue" which didn't invent modal jazz, but it brought it into the living rooms of the Frank Sinatra set. Also remember, without Bill Evans on Piano, there is no KOB.
As far as musicians go, I think even Miles would admit that he stood on the shoulders of giants like Armstrong, Parker, and Gillespie.
But perhaps your central point has more to do with Miles' vast and unique career as a one-of-a-kind collaborator. To that point he arguably stands alone among 20th century musicians - but than all music has an element of collaboration. Can you see why your statements are problematic?
Appreciate your comment and taking the time to reply...but... you have totally missed what i was saying .. he Delved into all genre's of music I did not say he created them He did not stay in the one genre but experimented with all kinds with Jazz being the main theme. this he continued all his life never standing still stuck in one form of music. And as for saying the Bill Evans made the Album 'Kind Of Blue' that is not an appropriate statement Bill played piano, Miles played trumpet and together they created the Album so to take either away there of course would be no Album, and I dont agree that they created the Album to target the Frank Sinatra etc. market now that statement to me is 'Problomatic' But you are entitled to your opinions ...and thanks to Bill ( RP Bill) I have now dug out the 'Porgy & Bess' Album and am taking it with me on a road trip today. Good listening to all. °º©©º° KJ |
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Sasha2001 (I can see Zabars from my window) | | Posted: Jul 07, 2012 - 17:52 | |
Toke wrote:Without doubt Miles was THE musician of this past century, his expertise knows no bounds. I have been an ardent follower of him since the 60's. he never ever stood still and delved into all forms of music and the last studio session he cut an Album with a rap star Easy Mo Bee. I first came accross this track on 'Porgy & Bess' and I urge all serious music fans to buy a copy and follow link to AMG to gain some knowledge of this amazing guy.
It's hard to argue with a statement like this because it's your opinion and because Miles was so HUGE. However, for all of music, much less jazz in particular, this view is problematic. Miles was never the guy who invented new styles or genres, he really was a genius at observing what was going on around him musically and than trying to bring that to a more main stream audience - as was the case with "Kind of Blue" which didn't invent modal jazz, but it brought it into the living rooms of the Frank Sinatra set. Also remember, without Bill Evans on Piano, there is no KOB.
As far as musicians go, I think even Miles would admit that he stood on the shoulders of giants like Armstrong, Parker, and Gillespie.
But perhaps your central point has more to do with Miles' vast and unique career as a one-of-a-kind collaborator. To that point he arguably stands alone among 20th century musicians - but than all music has an element of collaboration. Can you see why your statements are problematic? |
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Jeff09 (Gainesville, Florida) | | Posted: Jul 07, 2012 - 17:08 | |
Some people have talked about Miles' "discordant" arrangements. Actually, I'm pretty sure that Gil Evans was the arranger on this and several other famous cuts. They collaborated on at least three albums. Miles did his improvisational thing within structures that were created (and directed) by Evans. And I agree with several others here...the arrangements are sublime.
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mgoldman (Wherever you Go, There You Are) | | Posted: Jul 07, 2012 - 17:01 | |
jadewahoo wrote:Miles Davis, May 26, 1926  He looks pretty good there for just being born. The color is also great for 1926....  |
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On_The_Beach (The Blue Planet) | | Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 22:57 | |
Toke wrote:Without doubt Miles was THE musician of this past century, his expertise knows no bounds. I have been an ardent follower of him since the 60's. he never ever stood still and delved into all forms of music and the last studio session he cut an Album with a rap star Easy Mo Bee. I first came accross this track on 'Porgy & Bess' and I urge all serious music fans to buy a copy and follow link to AMG to gain some knowledge of this amazing guy.  |
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hbs47 (SE England) | | Posted: Apr 03, 2012 - 11:56 | |
Wow a MD track I almost liked!
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TerryS (Another SW) | | Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 19:18 | |
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TerryS (Another SW) | | Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 19:17 | |
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Bleyfusz
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Canlistener wrote:Like others here I'm not a jazz fan, but I really enjoy this. The big band sound is nice and it's not 'too jazzy' if that even makes sense?
Not very much so, if you ask me. Edit: Well, yes, it does, etymologically, if you understand jazzy as a synonym of wild; because a Big Band usually sounds rather smooth. Yeah, I can see what you mean. |
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Canlistener (Ontario Canada) | | Posted: Dec 30, 2011 - 08:32 | |
Like others here I'm not a jazz fan, but I really enjoy this. The big band sound is nice and it's not 'too jazzy' if that even makes sense?
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cc_rider (Austin Texas. Y'all.) | | Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 14:55 | |
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(former member)
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Axelito wrote:Just wanted to rate it 1but i already did..god!!..i hate jazz... JOHNNY?!? |
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Axelito (France) | | Posted: Nov 01, 2010 - 17:33 | |
Just wanted to rate it 1but i already did..god!!..i hate jazz...
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Dinges,_the_Dude (under sea-level, N52°22', E4°52') | | Posted: Oct 01, 2010 - 02:18 | |
Great, I like also the big band tunes.
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helgigermany (Germany) | | Posted: Jun 27, 2010 - 05:24 | |
Not a big Jazz Fan, but this is nice!
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jadewahoo (Beautiful Earth) | | Posted: May 26, 2010 - 09:30 | |
Miles Davis, May 26, 1926  |
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Rotterdam
| | Posted: Jan 20, 2010 - 01:35 | |
Xeric wrote:Okay, jazz people, I gots a question. When this is just Miles on the trumpet, it's pretty cool. Why, then, when the rest of the band comes in, is it necessary that they play chords that are so bloody jarringly gratingly awfully murderously horrendously discordant?
Fun with adjectives, by my question is serious. Anybody know where this part of the tradition came from?
OK, here's my take, for what it's worth: Miles' playing is pure and sublime, and when the big band chimes in, it is a loud and complicated sound. So the juxtaposition is jarring. I love it, but I can understand that it might not be to your taste. |
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WonderLizard (2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise) | | Posted: Dec 19, 2009 - 15:38 | |
Xeric wrote:Okay, jazz people, I gots a question. When this is just Miles on the trumpet, it's pretty cool. Why, then, when the rest of the band comes in, is it necessary that they play chords that are so bloody jarringly gratingly awfully murderously horrendously discordant? Fun with adjectives, by my question is serious. Anybody know where this part of the tradition came from?
Sorry, but unless my musician's ear has suddenly gone dead—and both my wife and daughter have asserted this lately when I sing Christmas carols—but, I'm sorry, I just don't hear one discordant chord in this. Yes, Miles charts some minor thirds and fifths in otherwise major chords, but all that does is make another chord. You want discordant, try Stockhausen or some free jazz. This is pretty tame by those standards. |
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WonderLizard (2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise) | | Posted: Dec 19, 2009 - 15:31 | |
randerse10 wrote:*adverbs. Fun with adverbs. :D
Xeric wrote:Okay, jazz people, I gots a question. When this is just Miles on the trumpet, it's pretty cool. Why, then, when the rest of the band comes in, is it necessary that they play chords that are so bloody jarringly gratingly awfully murderously horrendously discordant? Fun with adjectives, by my question is serious. Anybody know where this part of the tradition came from?  |
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randerse10
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*adverbs. Fun with adverbs. :D
Xeric wrote:Okay, jazz people, I gots a question. When this is just Miles on the trumpet, it's pretty cool. Why, then, when the rest of the band comes in, is it necessary that they play chords that are so bloody jarringly gratingly awfully murderously horrendously discordant? Fun with adjectives, by my question is serious. Anybody know where this part of the tradition came from? |
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Toke (Bournemouth UK) | | Posted: Sep 16, 2009 - 05:26 | |
pdjpirate wrote: Proof that there is a God! Bill, you need to add Miles' "So What!" with Coltrane...THE ULTIMATE!! Here is the Video on You Tube.... (click here) Hey Thanx PD for the link am DL'ing now. How Cool is that man . Takes a smoke break whilst Coltrane is doing his piece..lol... that was the days before 'Chewing Gum' lol |
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Toke (Bournemouth UK) | | Posted: Sep 16, 2009 - 05:11 | |
Without doubt Miles was THE musician of this past century, his expertise knows no bounds. I have been an ardent follower of him since the 60's. he never ever stood still and delved into all forms of music and the last studio session he cut an Album with a rap star Easy Mo Bee. I first came accross this track on 'Porgy & Bess' and I urge all serious music fans to buy a copy and follow link to AMG to gain some knowledge of this amazing guy.
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ProgFusion
| | Posted: Jun 13, 2009 - 06:24 | |
Aegean wrote:Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring!  Instead of blaming the song, why don't you just admit that you don't like jazz? |
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jedley (milan, italy) | | Posted: Mar 10, 2009 - 10:07 | |
Very nice follow-up for Moondance, about 5 tunes back.
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(former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | | Posted: Mar 10, 2009 - 10:05 | |
Miles Davis is so smooth... great music...
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fredriley (Nottingham, UK) | | Posted: Jan 06, 2009 - 04:42 | |
Can we have the original Gershwin number from Porgy and Bess (I think it was), rather than this super-jazzified, positively baroque version? I remember playing Gershwin numbers in our school band back in the day and they were fun, all raucous energy and couldn't-give-a-stuff-ness. This is supercool, daddy-o, but the sort of thing that you sit in some smoky bar clicking your fingers and nodding your head to with all the other cool jazz fans. Us non-sophisto plebs prefer the get up and boogie version :)
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