Two of my uploads in a row. (The Michael Franti track preceding this being the other one.)

ziggytrix wrote:

First of all, this song is not special enough to generate a thread based on its lyrical and musical content. The word "Holocaust" will always be evocative. It is also an industry. Look at all the Holocaust movies. Spielberg has made millions...

So in summation, the word "Holocaust" is far more evocative to the listeners of RadioPardise than the content of this song?

lixy wrote:

IIRC, "anti-Semitism" is a term that came into use during the 19th century when Jews were the only people of Semitic origin in Western European societies. So yes, it's a misnomer.

jah_blessed wrote:

Here is a more clear way of looking at it:

If a Chinese person, who for example is Budhist, changes their religion to Judaism, then they would be Jewish only in terms of religion. However, this person would never be "a Jew". Likewise, if an ethnic Jew believed in Budhism, then they would be a Budhist by religion but still a Jew. So yes, you are correct that "Jewry" is an ethnicity, and it is very confusing as to why some Jews will not accept this.

Kevstar wrote:

Judaism is a religion, while Jewry denotes ethnicity.

Jewish people will typically say that Judaism is a religion. Some will say that it is a religion and an ethnic group. It is clear from history and our present situation in the Middle East (and Jewish run US) that at least the ethnic definition of a Jew is still prevalent. Discuss...

lixy wrote:

Kevstar wrote:

Jews are not a race; At least in theory, that was the main argument against UN resolution 3379 that "determine that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination". In practice, however, it's clear that resolution 4686 - which revoked the former - was due to the crushing success of "desert storm". Look at how many Arab countries didn't bother showing up for the vote out of fear. So if Jews are not a race, I can't be a racist, right?

All Arabs are of Semitic heritage. Being an Arab myself, I can't possibly be anti-Semite.

Now, in retrospect, I understand that I got carried away in my previous post (which doesn't belong here in the first place). Sorry about that everyone.

jah_blessed wrote:

Surely one can be critical of Israel's actions without being branded an anti-semite?

That's pretty much impossible to do in the US, which ironically is the only place where such criticism would matter and make a difference.

Its better than some of the other things we could call you, Shirl.

Kevstar wrote:

Not really my kind of music but these guys do have one of the coolest band names ever.

jah_blessed wrote:

I'm Jewish and I criticize Israel all the time. Am I an anti-anti-semite?

this is amazing, this song comes on right as i'm working on a map of senegal at work, and there is a picture of the 'door of no return' on our map...

sweet

jah_blessed wrote:

Don't call me Shirley.

Kevstar wrote:

Surely one can be critical of Israel's actions without being branded an anti-semite?

lixy wrote:

You are a racist and anti-semite.

Kevstar wrote:

I've had it with these motherf*cking double standards on this motherf*cking planet!

What the hell is wrong with you people?
People are jailed for questionning the magnitude of the holocaust (click here), yet freedom of speech is invoked when inflammatory cartoons of the prophet Mohammed are published (click here).
Next thing you know, we'll be told that taking the lives of a thousand innocent civilians (and the infrastructure of a whole country) is proportional to that of two jewish people.
Oh, wait ... nevermind ...

Oh yeah, my 1 dropped this junk .2 :)

duggerd wrote:

Please don't tell Bill what he can and can't play. If you want the perfect station go start radioduggerd. Otherwise learn to mute like the rest of us.

From Merriam-Webster on-line:

Main Entry: ho·lo·caust
Pronunciation: 'hO-l&-"kost, 'hä- also -"käst or 'ho-l&-kost
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin holocaustum, from Greek holokauston, from neuter of holokaustos burnt whole, from hol- + kaustos burnt, from kaiein to burn -- more at CAUSTIC
1 : a sacrifice consumed by fire
2 : a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life especially through fire
3 a often capitalized : the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II -- usually used with the b : a mass slaughter of people; especially : GENOCIDE

ploafmaster wrote:

You didn't get what I was saying...

Kevstar wrote:

Um, not really:
(click here)

But anyway, I'm finding that I actually like Steel Pulse. I suppose it proves that there's something really good in every genre, even the ones I'm not generally fond of (or mostly disdain).

This starts at a 7 for me.

hcaudill wrote:

Interesting, but African Holocasut? Technically, a Holocasut can only happen to Jewish people.

Pictures of Gorée Island, the slave-trading outpost off the coast of Senegal mentioned in this song:
http://www.ibamba.net/photos/guinea/goree/index.html

Please don't do this again. There are hundreds of thousands of net stations out there. I listen to this one'cos you don't usually play this sort of rubbish.

mrs. elf destruct wrote:
I kinda like it.

mrselfdestruct wrote:

alberta...guess island music doesn't work its magic that close to the north pole.

I don't like reggae. Da da da da da. I hate it.

always nice to have a little uptempo reggae 'trown in da mix, mon

'we give jah thanks n' praises'
feeling quite irie with you my fellow friends...


Mari wrote: