I've noticed a resurgent trend of complaining about the frequency of certain artists and their songs. I'm guessing the people listening understand that it is the nature of a public music station to go through cycles.

It enhances the process of learning new music and the techniques the artist uses to convey their message. In fact, it might even be considered a talent of the program director to layout several tracks in a row in order to teach the listener through a comparison / contrast process.

So to complain about a single song in this case makes no sense when you forget about the songs before and after the one you want removed.

Having an opinion about an artist or their music, this station or it's programming, or any of the contributing members is trivialized if you don't take the time and energy to put it into the context of the larger picture.

BTW - I really enjoy RP and it's diversity. Bill and Rebecca have opened a new world of sounds and ideas to me and my friends. If you feel as I do please contribute generously!

tulfan wrote:

It's an 8 for sure. I didn't mean to imply that I don't like it! It's like eating something that tastes different than what you expected. Like the first time that I drank flavored water. It made my brain get tangled up.
I just want to hear little Bobby Plant warbling, "Close the door..."

davidyoull wrote:

Though not a LedZep fan that was my first imprssion too. After my first listen, I was very impressed.

musikalia wrote:

I couldn't agree more, on both counts.

Speaking with the perspective of an "aged" 50+ year old, the pains of childhood can become more intense as we age.

Every time I hear this I think that it is Led Zep's "No Quarter".

leathepea I love that drawing

PT has many songs that I prefer over this one, but it is a very poignant song that fits beautifully in the context of the album (thoughts from the dead Grandfather from the novel). The string arrangements are just lush and the lyrics are sublime.

All the things that I needed
I wasted my chances
I have found myself wanting

When a mother and father
Gave me their problems
I accepted them all

Nothing ever expected
I was rejected
But I came back for more

And my ashes drift beneath the silver sky
Where a boy rides on a bike and never smiles

And my ashes fall over all the things we've said
On a box of photographs under the bed

I will stay in my own world
Under the covers
I will feel safe inside

The kiss that will burn me
Cure me of dreaming
I was always returning

And my ashes find a way beyond the fog
And return to save the child that I forgot

And my ashes fade among the things unseen
And a dream plays in reverse on piano keys

And my ashes drop upon a park in Wales
Never-ending clouds of rain, and distant sails... distant sails

A dead Grandfather's musings on how he failed his family as they scatter his ashes ...

Wow, this is the third play the song got since I started listening - 2 days ago.

I will comment with my image again. My own interpretation of Porcupine Tree.

Wisecrowe wrote:

Try it sitting next time!

Wisecrowe wrote:How about if I tell you where to stick your childish trolling instead?

stalfnzo wrote:

Here, here!

This is a sublimely beautiful song, though.

Great album!

Wisecrowe wrote:

They're OK!

A much better tune when bookended by tracks 1 and 3 from the CD.

triste

I never would have discovered Porcupine Tree if it hadn't been for RP. Over the last 6 months or so, I've bought everything they've recorded. (Tell THAT to the music industry idiots who are trying to overcharge internet radio stations!)

This song is good, although there are better songs on the album.

Again, thanks, RP.

OVERPLAYED, OVERRATED! please someone reply telling me how wonderful procupine tree is.

Normal is my favourite cut of the Nil Recurring set.

But it is kinda intense. An acquired taste I'd say.

RP cannot make money off music sales but I doubt that was a factor.

Plus some of the lyrics and refrains are similar to the Sentimental cut from Fear of a Blank Planet. I realize that it is not the same song, but there ya go.

Wish I was old and a little sentimental.

Ya I uploaded Normal a day or 2 after Nil came out and got a sorry too

No convincing needed. It's art. You like it or you don't. No problem.Wisecrowe wrote:

I stand unconvinced.

My favorite song off my favorite album of 2007. Pure kickassery.

robco1 wrote:

Very well said. Similar feeling about this album. And my 14 old son loves this band as much as I do.

Sometimes I see the same behavior in my son as these songs echo, and both being a part of the songs, observing it, and having the product (my children) part of those observations in there (and maybe conscious of Steve Wilson's writings) makes it all the more special (and haunting).

I "tried" to upload 2 songs from the Nil Recurring EP. Bill did an instant "sorry" on LRC. WTF?!?!

-Cor- wrote:

Boy Bill, if you only had a buck for each time someone told you "great set"…

RP introduced me to this group; how did I miss them? Thanks Bill!!!!

joeheyming wrote:

Yes, and King Crimson and The Moody Blues and...and they still sound completely original. Isn't it great!

Great set Bill!

Harpua wrote:

Wow, I find the lyrics really beautiful, and I think it's courageous to write about the deep pain that stems from childhood.
I like this song more each time I hear it.