Aural_not_Oral
(End of the Oregon Trail) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2013 - 16:30 | |
I like a lot of Joni Mitchell, but not this one so much. I heard Roger McGuinn's version of this song on an 'album' I bought long ago, and loved it. A very different rendition. Roger McGuinn : 'Cardiff Rose' album of 1976. You can hear it on youtube. hold out for the sax at the end, nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3oePYTiCUk |
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tomatoslayer
(movin' and shakin') | | Posted: Jun 07, 2013 - 11:13 | |
Hey Bill - solid seven from a fellow canuck. It is good to buck the trend now and then. Joni is a marvel by any standard. Cheers!
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amprich
(Oregon) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2013 - 11:08 | |
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
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Kokoloco53
(Southeastern Arizona) | | Posted: Apr 05, 2013 - 11:55 | |
Thanks, hadn't heard this for a few years. There isn't a Joni Mitchell album I don't own, but have to admit that when her mid 70's style was changing, I had a hard time listening. Like many good things in the world, revisiting her later albums helped me appreciate more how awesome her music is. Wish she would release prints for her paintings though, Joni is an awesome painter. Ok, she's also an awesome poet as well.
If you've never heard The Hissing of Summer Lawns, that's another great album. Joy to the world, is it coming on Christmas yet? |
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bokey
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Not my favorite Joni song either, but buck the consensus all you want Bill(re: your post set comment).That's why we listen.
And since we now have PSD, why gripe?
Well,except for Natalie Merchant,REM and the Dead.
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LYS
| | Posted: Apr 05, 2013 - 11:54 | |
GODLIKE. A solid 10 from me.
This whole album is breathtaking.
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JHZ
(between Clark and Hilldale) | | Posted: Mar 05, 2013 - 00:17 | |
no more at 4.9! Ijust bumped it to 5 with my vote.
scrubbrush wrote:yikes. over 400 ratings and still less than a 5... maybe time to retire this one.
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walchenbach
(Puget Sound) | | Posted: Feb 01, 2013 - 16:35 | |
Watched Joni play a version of this live in late 1976 at Tanglewood (Western Massachusetts). We almost got up and left.
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philbertr
(Roch New York) | | Posted: Feb 01, 2013 - 16:28 | |
lemmoth wrote:Wise words from our dear departed friend:
Cynaera wrote:I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost. Excellent!! Thank you for the posting. |
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michaelgmitchell
(Stirling, ON) | | Posted: Jan 01, 2013 - 08:33 | |
lemmoth wrote:More Joni. A true innovator and musical giant. Indeed. Glad you posted the Cynaera comment. That says it all. |
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skyguy
(CO) | | Posted: Jan 01, 2013 - 08:30 | |
This was my go to, late night, headphones album for years, just for the hypnotic bass of the great Jaco Pastorius.
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hbs47
(SE England) | | Posted: Jan 01, 2013 - 08:29 | |
This is pretty awful. Not sure why she gets so much kudos.
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Grammarcop
(Part of the 47% who won't vote for Mitt Romney) | | Posted: Oct 30, 2012 - 15:31 | |
I'm not a long, long way from Canada from where I sit. I can see it from my front porch!
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linden
(Santa Cruz, CA) | | Posted: Oct 30, 2012 - 15:30 | |
Yeoleman wrote:She wrote this way before Paul Simon wrote Graceland, yet he gets all the credit for "discovering" South African music and musicians... He gets all the blame, too. As though bringing some excellent artists to the attention of people who would otherwise never have heard them is something to be embarrassed about. Musicians swap ideas all the time. If they didn't, we wouldn't have blues, jazz, or rock. |
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Yeoleman
(Samsara) | | Posted: Sep 29, 2012 - 04:07 | |
She wrote this way before Paul Simon wrote Graceland, yet he gets all the credit for "discovering" South African music and musicians...
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stevendejong
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lemmoth
(NYC) | | Posted: Aug 28, 2012 - 15:15 | |
Wise words from our dear departed friend:
Cynaera wrote:I read a few comments about this song and Ms. Mitchell in general, and I'll just say that there are a few songs of hers that I don't listen to because I don't understand them. Mostly, though, I listen because I know there's something that I'm supposed to understand, and if I don't get it right away, I listen until I do get it, and I feel better, more strong, more smart, more of a human being as a result.
It's easy to write off her music. She doesn't fit into a particular genre or groove. She doesn't re-bend to fit the form. Rather, she bends the form to fit.
I'm sorry if people have a problem with that, but I love her music - always have, always will. Sometimes, it's a struggle to understand her motive or her message, but I love the puzzle. Such is the Joni that those who've followed her already know and embrace.
To those who are hearing her work for the first time, welcome to the wild. Forget everything you ever learned about music as you know it - you're about to walk into a realm where all the rules disappear and everything is possible. To those who hate Ms. Mitchell's music part and parcel, I nod my head and watch you walk away, with no love lost.
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lemmoth
(NYC) | | Posted: Aug 28, 2012 - 15:13 | |
More Joni. A true innovator and musical giant.
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LucidDreamer
(Derby City) | | Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 19:06 | |
Is this going to be over soon? Please.
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rockstarbro
(Up and to the right. A little higher. A little to the left. Ahhh... that's it. RIGHT THERE!) | | Posted: Apr 24, 2012 - 04:55 | |
Trying too hard. To do what I don't know, but really, trying too hard.
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flutgos
(Centerville, OH) | | Posted: Mar 23, 2012 - 11:44 | |
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JeanRose
(Enchanted New Mexico) | | Posted: Feb 20, 2012 - 19:12 | |
If ever there was an artist I wish I could impress with my own meager attempts at song writing and poetry it would be Joni. It has taken me years to catch up with her experimentation — her music often travels to places where most of us have yet to go. This song is such a path. Be patient. You will find your way to the place this is from.
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unclehud
(300 feet above the planet) | | Posted: Dec 19, 2011 - 07:37 | |
Her voice sends me to Dreamland .... and should never be retired from RP.
(btw, Dreamland is a killer barbecue joint, but I don't think that's what she's singing about.)
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scrubbrush
(Sea of Calm) | | Posted: Nov 17, 2011 - 14:07 | |
yikes. over 400 ratings and still less than a 5... maybe time to retire this one.
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Axelito
(France) | | Posted: Oct 17, 2011 - 00:40 | |
Yeah, so damn right! ^^ sucko barfo!!
d-don wrote:Where's the fast forward button? |
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d-don
(Oregon) | | Posted: Sep 15, 2011 - 11:10 | |
Where's the fast forward button? |
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agkagk
(Ontario, Canada) | | Posted: Jul 14, 2011 - 17:28 | |
Wow, Bill !
A Canadian set with two of the best (Joni following Bruce Cockburn).
Not much love here for this one, but it's a solid 9 for me and Bruce gets a 10.
Interesting how many good poets we put out (Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn, Neil Young, Leonard Cohen). Maybe it's because we spend six months a year indoors trying to keep warm. Lots of time for thinking.
GO CANADA!
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chyk5
(Florida) | | Posted: May 19, 2011 - 11:26 | |
Randomax wrote:
No one ever said Joni was nice-nice....just like her music she is on another plane. I personally don't care if I met her on the street if she were nice to me or not...I care about what she has created....I saw her in Houston when I was quite young (YEARS ago!)....she left 1/2 way through because the red necks wouldn't stop yelling Rock and Roll.....a lot of folks were mad she left....I completely understood.
And, IMHO, she at least has a good REASON to be condenscending if she wants....so many "artists" don't have a reason but are mean anyway.
I'm not denying her talent, as I said in my post. I can dislike an artist personally and still appreciate the work they've created. As for: "she at least has a good REASON to be condenscending if she wants"
Do you really believe that? Is talent, in and of itself, justification to belittle others not as gifted? That's just rubbish. |
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ladron
(:O) | | Posted: Apr 10, 2011 - 20:15 | |
I really like a lot of her stuff. This, not so much.
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Randomax
(Wimberley, TX) | | Posted: Mar 10, 2011 - 07:58 | |
chyk5 wrote:
Thanks for posting this. I just read a biography on Warren Zevon, who met her on a couple of occasions, and she was very condescending towards him. I can't deny she's talented, but I'm beginning to really dislike her.
No one ever said Joni was nice-nice....just like her music she is on another plane. I personally don't care if I met her on the street if she were nice to me or not...I care about what she has created....I saw her in Houston when I was quite young (YEARS ago!)....she left 1/2 way through because the red necks wouldn't stop yelling Rock and Roll.....a lot of folks were mad she left....I completely understood. And, IMHO, she at least has a good REASON to be condenscending if she wants....so many "artists" don't have a reason but are mean anyway. |
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