Pipes wrote:

YIKES!

You all would be singing a different tune if this white boy dropped the N word as easily as he drops the others. Artisic integrity would count for nothing in that case, I would bet. You'd have him on a stake instead of a cross.

toker wrote:

This is hard to believe coming from someone named 'toker'.

Pipes wrote:

But this song isn't really that profane. A quick listen actually reveals 1 F-bomb and two $#!Ts. And a GD if you really count that one, I don't. But in the edited one you also lose (that I can remember off the top of my head from when this was played on the radio) are: Balls, Whore, Green, Drugs (I think this one was gone in the radio edit), 45. I remember there being a lot more 'bleeps' but cant remember any more.

toker wrote:

We'll be too busy simply telling our children that certain words are inherently bad, socially unacceptable, etc. The why is explained by, "well, they're just bad words." Just like our parents told us. Some kind of dubious evolution has occurred-it was decided at some point that certain words are offensive and that "fact" has been perpetuated. The more you ponder it, the more absurd it really is.

Mugro wrote:

I completely agree (hey something Mugro and I agree on!) this song makes so much more sense in the unedited version. It's not a glorification of the violece it depicts, unlike a lot of gansta rap, it's a truly heart wrenching depiction of human beings at their most desperate and depraved.

This is one of the few rap songs that I really like. Great lyrics. I especially love the line "You know where it ends, it usually depends on where you start." So true. Anyway, glad to hear this on RP.

Pipes wrote:

Necessary is completely irrelevent. The songwriters chose specific words for their lyrics. Broadcast radio plays an edited version rather than be slapped with fines by the FCC; RP is under no such contraints, and can therefore play the song the way it's written. If you don't approve of them for yourself or your children, it's your choice not to listen to the song or buy the album, that's all.

Another case of mere good intentions not being enough to make a listenable song.

toker wrote:

Why?

hells yeah, bitches.

love a little variety in here.

LaundryDetergent wrote:

I don't mind it once in awhile. Nothing wrong with it at all.

This is a steaming turd of a song.

Censorship is ridiculous. You can't say whore but you can blow up as many people as you want. You can't make love, but you can show rape. Hypocritical and insulting to a person's intelligence.

It would be a shame if we were unable to explain to our children why certain words bothered us.

Did they play this song by accident? It does not belong on RP.

Mugro wrote:

Interesting what you call necessary because I am able to deduce what the edited words are. I'm not offended by the profanity but would not want my children listening to it. Is your vocabulary such that you cannot convey a strong message without profanity? Hopefully your children will learn enough profanity in school that they are able to communicate with you in the manner in which you are accustomed.

Geecheeboy wrote:

Your inappropriate is my appropriate. The obscenities in this song are NECESSARY to convey the message of the song. The radio edit drains this song of any strength that the album version has.

Please remember that your audio player has a mute button. Use it and spare the rest of us of being forced to listen to the neutered version of this song. Afterall, who appointed you as Commissioner of the FCC???

Wish you had played the radio edit. Bill says it's ok with him if we play RP in our office or store yet over the top profanity is not appropriate for office or store, any more than it is appropriate to yell obscenities in public. Childish. Adolescent indeed.

the_bink wrote:

No kidding. I'm not a big fan of this song but there is NOTHING worse than the radio edit. All the bleeps, scratches, reeeees, whooooops, and other strange noises is incredibly annoying. Not sure why they even bothering playing the song with half the lyrics removed.

dmax wrote:
Yuh, HUH! No way, dude! I TOTALLY hate this song beyond all possible hatedom. Don't even.

rgj13 wrote:

Nuh UH.

Most excellant Mr Bill !!

dmax wrote:
Oh yeah? I hate it more than you do.

Man, I super hate this tune. Adolescent emo.

good song. Got to see him live few yrs back. Very good, turntables and all.

Where'd this come from??

None of his other stuff I've heard comes within 100 yards of how good this. These lines are amazing

I've seen a rich man beg
I've seen a good man sin
I've seen a tough man cry
I've seen a loser win
And a sad man grin
I heard an honest man lie
I've seen the good side of bad
And the down side of up
And everything between
I licked the silver spoon
Drank from the golden cup
Smoked the finest green
I stroked daddies dimes at least a couple of times
Before I broke their heart
You know where it ends
Yo, it usually depends on where you start

I like.

It must not have been overplayed on French radio.

So amazingly underrated. Everlast kicks ass. More, please.

I feel like I'm in Ninth Grade again. Hooray?