Groucho?

rdo wrote: 

Love it... one of the best song opening ever

Iconic song from the 'Oils.
I saw Peter Garrett, MP just this morning at the ANZ autoteller in Maroubra Junction.

just drive she said

 rdo wrote: 
Your comment is as dated as your idealism. The USSR isn't here any longer...as the man said below, do try to keep up. No one wants to "put an end to companies" they want the companies to behave humanely and ethically, like a person might (They do so want to be people these days, after all). As for governments being responsible for the messes being created by multinational corporations, well...same goes for them, really.

Your argument is just nothing but anger, unless you are actually advocating unsafe, unfair and unsustainable environmental assaults and the erosion of human rights...but that would be nuts, wouldn't it?

 RKeaton wrote: 
I confess I never got out of my Midnight oil phase 

I confess that once upon a time I went through a Midnight Oil phase. 

 rdo wrote: 
Trite and pointless remark. Environmental exploitation is a function of power and wealth. Governments and corporations are alike in that regard. To the poor sods getting the rough end of the pineapple the result is the same - their environment is trashed and their health f*cked.

And in case you've not heard the news, the USSR collapsed in 1991. Do keep up.

Always love to hear this — came out right before I went on my first of three spekky Oz walkabouts...and made a very special soundtrack to my discoveries!

Great song.  

Peter Robert Garrett, AM, MP (born 16 April 1953), is an Australian musician, environmentalist, activist and politician.

Garrett was lead singer of the Australian rock band Midnight Oil from 1973 until its disbanding in 2002. He served as President of the Australian Conservation Foundation for a total of ten years, and in 2003 was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia for his contribution to the environment and music industry.

He has been an Australian Labor Party member of the House of Representatives for the seat of Kingsford Smith, New South Wales, since October 2004. After the Labor Party won in the November 2007 election, Garrett was appointed Minister for the Environment, Heritage and the Arts by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd. On 8 March 2010, his portfolio title was changed to Environment Protection, Heritage and the Arts.He continued in this role in Julia Gillard's first Ministry. He was re-elected at the 2010 election and was appointed Minister for School Education, Early Childhood and Youth by Prime Minister Julia Gillard. He was sworn into this portfolio on 14 September 2010 as a member of the Second Gillard Ministry. In 2009, the French Government appointed Garrett an Officer of the Order of Arts and Letters. In 2010, WWF Australia and International presented him with their Leaders for a Living Planet award.

 rdo wrote: 
If those countries were actually socialist in anything other than name anymore, your argument would have more force.

 shmuelman wrote: 
Hmmm. Looking at the current new government of Italy. . . all unelected. That's democracy for you. 

At least with some corporates one can remove your right to buy their product and have a small chance to do something.  

10 - Love the song, hate the ideas behind it. 

Yes, lets put an end to companies and follow the environmental examples of real Socialist countries like China and the USSR. Now THERE'S a great idea! 

One of the three good MO songs!
Relatively good, at least (this one)!

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Is it only me that feels that the bass player is playing flat in the chorus part?
It all sounds fine then it all goes "blaaart blaaarrt" in dissonance with the rest of the band.

Great song that my band used to play.  Can't remember what we did for the harmonica since nobody played that.  Some cheesy keyboard sound, probably.

So...who IS gonna shave me?

 aelfheld wrote: 

I love your post.

Still rocks, 21 years later.

 aelfheld wrote: 
You do realize that Garrett wrote to Kevin Rudd on four occasions to raise safety concerns, right? Gary Gray has stated in an interview:

The majority of caucus felt he had been badly treated. For Rudd and his office to position Garrett as the fall guy was disgraceful, weak, sneaky, unprincipled and just plain wrong. All along, Peter properly put his objections to the administration of the program on the record. How can you have a situation where Rudd executes complete and total influence, micromanages everything, yet not the home insulation program? The shape and execution of the program was certainly designed by the prime minister's office, if not the prime minister himself."

westslope wrote:

Watched Avatar the other day. Good portrait of colonialism. Except companies don't harass indigenous people nowadays. Governments do.

Anyone who believes that private companies are not involved in the direct killing of indigenous people, as well as the funding of civil wars, should look at Shell's involvement in Nigeria. I know it is now cool to hate government and love corporations, but at least there is some democratic process in place to change or influence your government, whereas there is no process to mitigate the activities of private power.

 bronorb wrote: 

 westslope wrote: 

What's the difference?

 westslope wrote: 
Governments usually oppress people in support of "economic development," which is often suggested by for-profit entities.  That theme has been the source of music for centuries: blues, punk/revolt, even gospel tunes.

 Stingray wrote: 
You do realise that the lead singer, Peter Garrett, was appointed Minister for the Environment, Heritage and the Arts, right?

And that he was removed from that office because of his incompetence administering a home insulation program which was linked to four deaths, over 100 house fires, and questions of fraud, right?

Can't sing.  Can't dance.  Can't seem to do much of anything right.

BTW, the song sucks.

 westslope wrote: 
If the indigenous people are not in the way of those companies, they are not harrassed. But what about shell in Nigeria? Sweat shops in Asia and Honduras? Coca-Cola in Columbia? I have to admit the companies won't talk in their adds about such matters.