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Artist:PJ Harvey [ more ]
Song:This Mess We're In (w/ Thom Yorke)
Album:Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea [ info ]
Released:2000
Last Played:Apr 26, 2013 - 11:26
Avg. Rating:7.2  (Total Ratings: 1137)
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1 votes: 37 (3.3%)2 votes: 30 (2.6%)3 votes: 47 (4.1%)4 votes: 28 (2.5%)5 votes: 44 (3.9%)6 votes: 65 (5.7%)7 votes: 240 (21%)8 votes: 339 (30%)9 votes: 201 (18%)10 votes: 106 (9.3%)
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railroadwail
(Deep in Penn's Woods)
Posted: Mar 23, 2013 - 11:59 

Nice I like the talking part that PJ provides


kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Feb 22, 2013 - 16:37 

I've put this up to a 6, (which is not bad, really) but I really wish PJ could have found someone else for this song.  I don't mind Thom Yorke's voice most of the time; I just find his falsetto objectionable.
aspicer
(Chicago, IL)
Posted: Feb 22, 2013 - 12:56 

Incredible song! Especially given it's release within a year of 9-11!  Made more significant b/c she went to NYC for year to gain inspiration for this album....a bit of an omen album I believe, another song on the disc is Kamikaze.
paradisepig
(Inverness-Scotland)
Posted: Feb 20, 2013 - 01:38 

Oh dear God make it end{#Headache}
Desimia
(Buenvenidos a Me-ah-mi)
Posted: Dec 19, 2012 - 09:10 

I'm gonna listen to this album on my ride home from work today. Thanks RP. 
fedtho
(Switzerland)
Posted: Nov 20, 2012 - 12:49 

*My* very first PJ HArvey album. Also still my only one... but a couple of songs on it I do love!
As chance would have it, RP plays my favorite "You said something" on a regular basis!  {#Clap}
Hopeless fan of Radiohead, I remember quite well the surprise when Yorke's voice suddenly came out of my loudspeakers.{#Think} ...{#Mrgreen}
Great album.  
Nadine
Posted: Sep 16, 2012 - 02:32 

 lemmoth wrote:

HUH????  It's her bloody song.  Thom is just guesting.  here.
 
exactamente.
DD rabbi_phil
(beach)
Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 15:07 

 oilydwarf wrote:
would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
 

yup
lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 - 06:34 

 oilydwarf wrote:
would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
 
HUH????  It's her bloody song.  Thom is just guesting.  here.
bluecshells
Posted: Jun 13, 2012 - 13:04 

{#Daisy}
oilydwarf
Posted: May 15, 2012 - 07:58 

would be better without the cheesy repeated voiceover by ms harvey
michaele
(A2)
Posted: May 12, 2012 - 18:08 

sooo hot
shoefreeek
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 14:47 

 DigitalJer wrote:
Gets a strong 7 from me...

PLUS I get to interject on an otherwise negative string of posts.  Breaking the cycle, that's what I'm all about!!
 
{#Heartkiss} Thom Yorke!  and i like PJ Harvey a little better because of this song!
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 14:39 

Gets a strong 7 from me...

PLUS I get to interject on an otherwise negative string of posts.  Breaking the cycle, that's what I'm all about!!
Kokoloco53
(Southeastern Arizona)
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 14:38 

Sensuality is a good thing. This song is a good thing. Happiness is a good thing.
rotten
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 14:36 

Thom Yorke's voice is horrible. Wimpy and small.
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Mar 25, 2012 - 13:44 

 keller1 wrote:

I disagree. "Spare us" is one thing.  "Please spare us" is quite another.

And like I have repeatedly said —- to no avail, apparently —- is that asking Bill to spare us a song, modified by "please" or not, is hardly dictating anything.  It's just a plaintive request for less, as one other poster put it, of that "whiny prick" Thom Yorke.

So, that's the argument, and in my mind it makes the "stop trying to dictate" thing, logically, a non sequitur.

To paraphrase on old saw:  "Never get into an argument with a pedant.  They'll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

So, I'm done wasting electrons on you.  The last word is yours.
 
No wonder you haven't made any sense during this entire exchange.  You've been arguing that "spare us" means "play this song less".  Seriously?  Even if that were a commonly accepted definition of the phrase, the context of its use here makes it clear that that wasn't what was intended.

Your argument is nonsensical.  You can throw "pedant" my way all you'd like (ironic, as you're the one doing loud spelling corrections and claiming a radical (and clearly unintended) meaning change related to the word "please" here).  It doesn't change the fact that you're full of hot air.

Have a nice day.
keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Mar 24, 2012 - 14:56 

 dwhayslett wrote:

You think "please" fundamentally changes the meaning of "spare us", and you call *me* pedantic?

The meaning of "spare us" is not modified by the "please".  Read, yourself.
 
I disagree. "Spare us" is one thing.  "Please spare us" is quite another.

And like I have repeatedly said —- to no avail, apparently —- is that asking Bill to spare us a song, modified by "please" or not, is hardly dictating anything.  It's just a plaintive request for less, as one other poster put it, of that "whiny prick" Thom Yorke.

So, that's the argument, and in my mind it makes the "stop trying to dictate" thing, logically, a non sequitur.

To paraphrase on old saw:  "Never get into an argument with a pedant.  They'll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

So, I'm done wasting electrons on you.  The last word is yours.
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Mar 24, 2012 - 09:15 

 keller1 wrote:


Read, my pedantic friend, read.

"Please" does not enter into the conversation if one is trying to dictate.
 
You think "please" fundamentally changes the meaning of "spare us", and you call *me* pedantic?

The meaning of "spare us" is not modified by the "please".  Read, yourself.
keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Mar 21, 2012 - 18:09 

 dwhayslett wrote:

Oh?  I can't imagine any reading of that statement that *doesn't* construe exactly that.  So I repeat my previous question:  What exactly do you think "Please spare us" means?
 

Read, my pedantic friend, read.

"Please" does not enter into the conversation if one is trying to dictate.
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Mar 20, 2012 - 09:12 

 keller1 wrote:

A literal reading of the statement "Please spare us" could hardly be construed as dictating anything.
 
Oh?  I can't imagine any reading of that statement that *doesn't* construe exactly that.  So I repeat my previous question:  What exactly do you think "Please spare us" means?
keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 17:44 

 dwhayslett wrote:

Like your attention span, your logic is deficient.  There's no inconsistency between "stop trying to dictate" and "The writer of the latter can't dictate ...".

But your spelling is excellent, though.  So there's that.

 
A literal reading of the statement "Please spare us" could hardly be construed as dictating anything.


stunix
(Wales, UK)
Posted: Mar 10, 2012 - 09:15 

s'just a song on the radio guys.    .............. oh look, its over.     I like Thom/RH but his morose stuff like this is surely there to convey angst and emotion.   it did.   s'just a song.
Kokoloco53
(Southeastern Arizona)
Posted: Mar 10, 2012 - 09:11 

This must be a euphoric mess we're in, the best kind.


dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Feb 12, 2012 - 13:10 

 keller1 wrote:


Pardon my short attention span.

"Stop trying to dictate" is a non sequitur (note the correct spelling) vis a vis "Spare us".

The writer of the latter can't dictate anything, as demonstrated by Bill's abject refusal to play this POS less.
 
Like your attention span, your logic is deficient.  There's no inconsistency between "stop trying to dictate" and "The writer of the latter can't dictate ...".

But your spelling is excellent, though.  So there's that.

keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 19:43 

 dwhayslett wrote:

Where did I say that *you* wrote that?  (Go back and read your first post that I replied to.  You'll find it.  Then you can explain exactly what you think 'non-sequitor' means.)
 

Pardon my short attention span.

"Stop trying to dictate" is a non sequitur (note the correct spelling) vis a vis "Spare us".

The writer of the latter can't dictate anything, as demonstrated by Bill's abject refusal to play this POS less.


dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Feb 05, 2012 - 15:49 

 keller1 wrote:


You are going to have to direct me to where I said "Please spare us."

I have lost the thread.
 
Where did I say that *you* wrote that?  (Go back and read your first post that I replied to.  You'll find it.  Then you can explain exactly what you think 'non-sequitor' means.)


keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Feb 02, 2012 - 19:08 

 dwhayslett wrote:

So, um, what exactly do you think "Please spare us." means, then?  (And for the record, I said *trying* to dictate.)
 

You are going to have to direct me to where I said "Please spare us."

I have lost the thread.
Joe_G_Bear
(Los Angeles, CA)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 21:11 

Eight Claws Up
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 - 13:43 

 keller1 wrote:


So, um, I did.

Nobody's dictating anything.

Like I said, a non sequitur.
 
So, um, what exactly do you think "Please spare us." means, then?  (And for the record, I said *trying* to dictate.)


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