Webfoot (Eugene, Oregon) | | Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 16:30 | |
stunix wrote:generally I dont subscribe to U2.
I dont believe politics has much of a place in music, but more than that, Musicians shouldn't have a place in politics. above that, Anyone who thinks that they can change the world should be committed. furthermore, He ... ney, They.... just seem like a bunch of self appriciating knobs. Put Porcupine Tree back on. :) Except, of course, the politics of religion. Then, you had better turn off Porcupine Tree too. Sorry, but I'm just saying... |
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somli (Orlando) | | Posted: Nov 20, 2012 - 05:03 | |
I've always liked this live version much more than the album version.
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johnjconn (chicago land) | | Posted: Sep 18, 2012 - 07:56 | |
Sounds nice The Edge is an edge most bands don't have
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coloradojohn (A Mile High and then some, Cherry Creek, Denver) | | Posted: Aug 17, 2012 - 20:21 | |
I remember at the time I'd already keened into this, how the ex-wife was saying how she figured they were DONE, how all the impossible magic was used up, and I said, Wait a minute, LISTEN...and even she, the Negative Representative For All Time, agreed: THEY WERE NOT DONE! This kicked all kinds of butt, and so has plenty of stuff after. U2 ROCKS!
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lemmoth (NYC) | | Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:55 | |
That_SOB wrote:Politics has been an integral part of music for as long as we have recorded our music in one from or another. Music has been used as propaganda to emotionally charge those who were going into battle and those supporting either side.The Native American's song and dance preformed prior to their war parties is alive today, as is the music and dance of African nations where drums, dance, musical instruments, and song implored the warrior to superhuman feats. Because this music has been passed down for thousands of years we know that music has been integral to activities such as warding off evil spirits,victory over ones enemies. Humans are political animals and politics seems to bring out the music in the human.Perhaps the most famous voices of protest at the time of the Civil War, at least in America, were the Hutchinson Family Singers. From 1839, the Hutchinson Family Singers became well known for their songs supporting abolition .A topical parlor song that is arguably a precursor of environmental movement is an 1837 musical setting of "Woodman, Spare That Tree!" For some of us the music of the 60's during the war in Vet Nam will never be forgotten and the artists like Dylan,Hendrix, CS&N Young, the Eagles, CCR, The Fish (What's that spell ?) and the list goes on and on. Politics have always given people a reason to sing out in support, protest, sadness and joy, and I believe this will always be the case. Amen brother.. Couldn't agree more. |
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stickvaughn
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Cool how Larry uses the drum beat from Sunday Bloody Sunday in the bridge.
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TerryS (Another SW) | | Posted: Jun 15, 2012 - 19:34 | |
Take that, Stunix.
Piigs.......Oh, you mean we have to pay some of it back?
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That_SOB (In at least 2 places at once) | | Posted: May 15, 2012 - 01:57 | |
stunix wrote:I dont believe politics has much of a place in music Politics has been an integral part of music for as long as we have recorded our music in one from or another. Music has been used as propaganda to emotionally charge those who were going into battle and those supporting either side.The Native American's song and dance preformed prior to their war parties is alive today, as is the music and dance of African nations where drums, dance, musical instruments, and song implored the warrior to superhuman feats. Because this music has been passed down for thousands of years we know that music has been integral to activities such as warding off evil spirits,victory over ones enemies. Humans are political animals and politics seems to bring out the music in the human.Perhaps the most famous voices of protest at the time of the Civil War, at least in America, were the Hutchinson Family Singers. From 1839, the Hutchinson Family Singers became well known for their songs supporting abolition .A topical parlor song that is arguably a precursor of environmental movement is an 1837 musical setting of "Woodman, Spare That Tree!" For some of us the music of the 60's during the war in Vet Nam will never be forgotten and the artists like Dylan,Hendrix, CS&N Young, the Eagles, CCR, The Fish (What's that spell ?) and the list goes on and on. Politics have always given people a reason to sing out in support, protest, sadness and joy, and I believe this will always be the case. |
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stunix (Narrowboat nr Caen Locks) | | Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 07:34 | |
generally I dont subscribe to U2.
I dont believe politics has much of a place in music, but more than that, Musicians shouldn't have a place in politics. above that, Anyone who thinks that they can change the world should be committed. furthermore, He ... ney, They.... just seem like a bunch of self appriciating knobs. Put Porcupine Tree back on. :)
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ckcotton (Adding snarky comments since 2007) | | Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 07:33 | |
This is the best version of an AWESOME song....
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Proclivities (Carrboro, NC) | | Posted: Dec 08, 2011 - 06:57 | |
camden_hampden wrote:...U2 didn't seem to figure out how to write comparatively atrocious material until much later in their career.
That's an amusing observation, but I find it to be quite accurate. This is a good tune, though. |
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tgrier (Austin, Texas) | | Posted: Nov 06, 2011 - 14:44 | |
This is an awesome Song. love that bass line.
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Flab
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pinnyrat
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SUCH an underappreciated song....
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camden_hampden (Baltimore, MD) | | Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 13:21 | |
cosmiclint wrote:You grossly exaggerate the number of covers the Beatles recorded on their first six albums. Of the 14 songs on Please Please Me, six were covers. The same ratio holds for With the Beatles and Beatles for Sale. All songs on Hard Days Night were credited to the Beatles, as were all but two of the tracks on Help. So, in fact, of the 69 songs on their first six albums, one of the Beatles wrote 49, or 70%. I think the band's early years of touring in Hamburg contributed a lot to their prolific output in the early part of their career. They arrived at EMI studios tight, rehearsed and ready to record. This is from the Wikipedia article on Please Please Me: Therefore, at 10:00 am on Monday, 11 February 1963 at EMI Studios (whose name was later changed to Abbey Road Studios), The Beatles and George Martin started recording what was essentially their live act in 1963, and finished 585 minutes later (9 hours and 45 minutes).<3> In three sessions that day (each lasting approximately three hours) they produced an authentic representation of the band's Cavern Club-era sound, as there were very few overdubs and edits. Keep in mind, also, that recording was much more like a live performance in those days. It wasn't until multi-track recorders came in to use that "records" became artistic ventures in their own right, rather than documents of the artists' live performances. The Beatles (and the Beach Boys, and Hendrix etc ...) pioneered many of the studio techniques that later expanded the artistic horizons of artists like U2, while at the same time limiting their output. Yes, I inverted the numbers (not "grossly exaggerated"), but it does not invalidate my central point. Given all your stats and references one would think that I am efforting to discredit the Beatles—that is not the thrust of my comment at all (on the whole, I much prefer the Beatles to U2). I was simply responding to a comment that minimized U2's accomplishments. Their output in that time was still remarkable, if primarily due to ridiculous contractual obligations and Brian Epstien's fear of irrelevance. But the fact remains that the Beatles did not write 30% of their early output (largely due to the fact that those were the songs they knew how to play) and many of the songs that they did write during that period were not very good (U2 didn't seem to figure out how to write comparatively atrocious material until much later in their career). |
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StoneyG (Just east of The Rockies; north of the 49th) | | Posted: Jul 03, 2011 - 20:23 | |
Woah, interesting how you chose to play this one next. Very similar tempo and drum beat to Get Together.
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aquadonia (Green Bay, WI) | | Posted: Jul 03, 2011 - 20:22 | |
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mfcrowe (Chicago,, IL) | | Posted: May 01, 2011 - 15:46 | |
yeah, agreeed,but his wife is still hot particularly in those capitalistic full page ads for their clothing company in the WSJ fredriley wrote: None of the things he 'secured' at Gleneagles and elsewhere, together with fellow hobnobbers like Bob "give us yer fockin' money" Geldof, have come to pass. The politicians basked in the 'cool' presence of St Bonio et al, made some vague promises, then went back on them. St Bonio's impact on world politics has pretty much been to add 'cool cred' to statesmen in suits. U2 can be a half-decent band, but I do wish they'd stuck to music, as St Bonio's grander ambitions have done little other than stroke his own ego. Oh, and I certainly haven't forgiven the band for its tax evasion/avoidance (a distinction for m'learned friends to make) in its native Ireland. They earn 00s of millions of Euros yet do their damnedest to keep a cent from going into the Republic's tax coffers, money which could be of direct benefit to the people of their country.
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fusionmuze
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It works. Not their best, but doesn't suck. Guitar (like usual) makes the tune.
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mfcrowe (Chicago,, IL) | | Posted: May 01, 2011 - 15:42 | |
Does anyone hear Allman Brother;s guitar in this song, particularly in the beginning of the song. As it started I thought maybe it was a cover version of Statesboro Blues. I like U-2 but this tune...not so much
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glassbuteo (transition) | | Posted: Mar 31, 2011 - 00:21 | |
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Galateea (Lynchburg, VA) | | Posted: Feb 27, 2011 - 12:49 | |
Yeah, it's not perfect but, it is so colorful, creative and "the real thing'. Just love it 'cause it motivates and feels good.
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stalfnzo (Somewhere... out there) | | Posted: Feb 27, 2011 - 12:41 | |
Mediocre band, lousy vocals. What's the big deal about U2?
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ScottishWillie (The Scottish Lowlands) | | Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 06:31 | |
When I first heard this on low volume I thought it was a cover of ‘When doves cry'.
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Poacher (Brighton, UK) | | Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 06:29 | |
fredriley wrote:
Oh, and I certainly haven't forgiven the band for its tax evasion/avoidance (a distinction for m'learned friends to make) in its native Ireland. They earn 00s of millions of Euros yet do their damnedest to keep a cent from going into the Republic's tax coffers, money which could be of direct benefit to the people of their country. Especially now with the country on its knees financially. |
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cixelsyd (Winterpeg) | | Posted: Aug 21, 2010 - 20:49 | |
helgigermany wrote: Very well said!
Enough of the bonehead sideshow. Some decent musicians suffering by association .... |
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helgigermany (Germany) | | Posted: Jun 19, 2010 - 01:11 | |
fredriley wrote: None of the things he 'secured' at Gleneagles and elsewhere, together with fellow hobnobbers like Bob "give us yer fockin' money" Geldof, have come to pass. The politicians basked in the 'cool' presence of St Bonio et al, made some vague promises, then went back on them. St Bonio's impact on world politics has pretty much been to add 'cool cred' to statesmen in suits. U2 can be a half-decent band, but I do wish they'd stuck to music, as St Bonio's grander ambitions have done little other than stroke his own ego. Oh, and I certainly haven't forgiven the band for its tax evasion/avoidance (a distinction for m'learned friends to make) in its native Ireland. They earn 00s of millions of Euros yet do their damnedest to keep a cent from going into the Republic's tax coffers, money which could be of direct benefit to the people of their country.
Very well said! |
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pianocomposer (Springfield) | | Posted: May 18, 2010 - 06:13 | |
From Wikipedia regarding U2s Formation and Early Years (1975-1979): "Most of the group's material initially consisted of cover versions, which the band said was not their forté." The Beatles had a nice mix of covers and originals at first, although John Lennon has admitted that all their touring caused a creative problem: "Material's becoming a hell of a problem."
The biggest overall difference between the Beatles and other supergroups that came after was degree of impact. There are few musician in the western world unaffected by the Beatles. Groups like U2 from Europe are indebted to them. I think maybe Elvis Presley had, perhaps, a similar impact on popular music. Other lesser names are would haves and should haves and sort of's.
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fredriley (Nottingham, UK) | | Posted: May 18, 2010 - 06:07 | |
redstorm wrote:Let's see, he meets with president's and prime ministers, and get's countries to forgive billions in debt, he secures promises to have developing countries focus on their poor, hopefully keeping them from our doorstep, and ohhhhhhh yeah he sells about 70-100 million records/cd's/dload's a year, and he has a hot wife......yeah the guy is pretty limited!!  None of the things he 'secured' at Gleneagles and elsewhere, together with fellow hobnobbers like Bob "give us yer fockin' money" Geldof, have come to pass. The politicians basked in the 'cool' presence of St Bonio et al, made some vague promises, then went back on them. St Bonio's impact on world politics has pretty much been to add 'cool cred' to statesmen in suits. U2 can be a half-decent band, but I do wish they'd stuck to music, as St Bonio's grander ambitions have done little other than stroke his own ego. Oh, and I certainly haven't forgiven the band for its tax evasion/avoidance (a distinction for m'learned friends to make) in its native Ireland. They earn 00s of millions of Euros yet do their damnedest to keep a cent from going into the Republic's tax coffers, money which could be of direct benefit to the people of their country. |
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cosmiclint (Vancouver BC) | | Posted: May 04, 2010 - 12:16 | |
h8rhater wrote: Nerd alert.
You must be new here. |
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