Dave_Crick
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Simply Cat at his very best. Wonderful track - never fails to move me. |
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gypsyman (just passing through....) | | Posted: Jun 09, 2011 - 02:04 | |
Sasha2001 wrote:
Again, I find it hard to believe such ignorance persists at RP - where so many people demonstrate enlightened musical tastes. But are you suggesting Gypsyman that all Muslims are terrorists? Or that all terrorists are Muslim? Both staements are so factually incorrect as to be obsurd. Terrorists are poilitical, not religious actors. They have stated political goals and they use the tactic of terrorism to try and achieve those goals. Terrorists pervert the tenets of their religion to recruit new members and justify their horrible acts to garner support for thei political agendas. Don't blame Muslims for being Muslims. Just as we wouldn't blame the Catholic church for IRA bombings.
OK. Political goals. What the f—k ever. Now you're gonna tell me 9/11 was a Zionist plot, right? I'll let you make my point for me, as you are well on the way to doing. Oh, by the way, I don't blame scorpions for being scorpions - that's just the way they are. But I still step on them. Its just safer that way. But... back to things, uh, musical. edit - Upon further examination, this statement - from the post immediately prior - stood out as particularly lame, "But more importantly, islam's {sic} proliferation around the world owes as much to it's adaptability to the traditional cultures that adopt it as it does to it's primary religious tenets" Really? Wow. Just like cockroaches. Still a really good album, though. Keep it about the music, kid. |
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Sasha2001 (Where the last of the union men run free) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 12:30 | |
gypsyman wrote: Yes, it is. You might feel less charitable, of course, if your family got blown up by terrorists. What part of "they want to kill all of us" aren't you getting? A very good album, though.
Again, I find it hard to believe such ignorance persists at RP - where so many people demonstrate enlightened musical tastes. But are you suggesting Gypsyman that all Muslims are terrorists? Or that all terrorists are Muslim? Both staements are so factually incorrect as to be obsurd. Terrorists are poilitical, not religious actors. They have stated political goals and they use the tactic of terrorism to try and achieve those goals. Terrorists pervert the tenets of their religion to recruit new members and justify their horrible acts to garner support for thei political agendas. Don't blame Muslims for being Muslims. Just as we wouldn't blame the Catholic church for IRA bombings. |
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Sasha2001 (Where the last of the union men run free) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 12:16 | |
aelfheld wrote:She's probably sad because she just found out she's being married to her first cousin from the Pakistani hinterlands and has to wear a canvas awning for the rest of her life.
Your ignorance on the subject of Islam is regrettably all too common an occurrence these days. So you'll have to allow me this short lesson:
First off, Yusef Islam (formerly Cat Stevens) would most likely abhor the practice you reference as a western educated man if Greek dissent. But more importantly, islam's proliferation around the world owes as much to it's adaptability to the traditional cultures that adopt it as it does to it's primary religious tenets. The customs westerners recoil from are more likely descended from tribal practices and not the result of Islam's teachings. This is arguably one of the primary reasons why Islam's practitioners are slow to adopt the more modern ideas of the west. Certainly the Arab Spring is demonstrating that western ideas about rights and democracy have permeated Islam and over time, the religion is proving once again that it can adapt and thrive in any environment. |
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gypsyman (just passing through....) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 11:46 | |
Giselle62 wrote:I've had this idea lately that a person's religion and sexuality should be their personal business and personal choice—-unless said choice harms or exploits others. Is this just too idealistic?
Yes, it is. You might feel less charitable, of course, if your family got blown up by terrorists. What part of "they want to kill all of us" aren't you getting? A very good album, though. |
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dpvest (roseville) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 11:36 | |
Groogrux69 wrote:My Dad turned me on to Cat Stevens about the time this album came out. I was 7. I still enjoy his old albums. I've always thought this to be one of his best. + catch bull at four... |
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casey1024 (Here and Now) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 11:34 | |
I just like Cat Stevens' music. Always a pleasure to hear.
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unclelonghair
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dmax wrote: I dunno, that account of "what really happened" sounds like a really bad attempt at spin control. "Oh that? I was only kidding, and also, I didn't mean it, and also, it was stupid, and also, hey how about those Yankees..." Not the first artist to fall off the beam of reason, hey he made some beautiful music once upon a time. |
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Groogrux69 (Auburn, CA) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 11:32 | |
My Dad turned me on to Cat Stevens about the time this album came out. I was 7. I still enjoy his old albums.
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HazzeSwede (Vinyl Land) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 06:30 | |
Cat once was a cool cat,who's to say, he's not,anymore ? Guess I'll have to meet him again.
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PeeBee (Down South in The Netherlands) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 06:19 | |
You sure had! Same for me by the way.  listen_n_sf wrote:Cat's been popping up lately, a good thing.
I sure had good taste for a 15 yr old.
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blueskymind (london) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 06:17 | |
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Al (Ontario, Canada) | | Posted: Feb 28, 2011 - 18:39 | |
Bill-thanks for this. High school was (yikes) 40 years ago!
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Derecho (A Land Without Traffic Lights) | | Posted: Feb 28, 2011 - 18:38 | |
This sounds remarkably contemporary.
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dogpound (the island on which I belong) | | Posted: Feb 28, 2011 - 18:38 | |
muepy wrote:a very great album start to finish |
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listen_n_sf
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Cat's been popping up lately, a good thing.
I sure had good taste for a 15 yr old.
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aelfheld
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rconlon wrote:It's good to see he has a sense of humor.
Tell that to Salman Rushdie. |
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aelfheld
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She's probably sad because she just found out she's being married to her first cousin from the Pakistani hinterlands and has to wear a canvas awning for the rest of her life.
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rconlon (The Jersey Shore) | | Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 12:34 | |
I saw him at the Rally for Sanity in Washington DC back in October. It's good to see he has a sense of humor.
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GT66
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Stingray wrote:...so America is less tuff than (the real) world thinks? How can you all be sooo trashy "romantic"...? This is 2010 as the Cat turned into an Imam! Late Lisa is long gone!
You might want to have your water tested for lead contamination. |
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On_The_Beach (Vancouver BC, Bud) | | Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 15:06 | |
Stingray wrote:...so America is less tuff than (the real) world thinks? How can you all be sooo trashy "romantic"...? This is 2010 as the Cat turned into an Imam! Late Lisa is long gone! Try not to speak. |
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k_trout (Dream State) | | Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 12:24 | |
Stingray wrote:...so America is less tuff than (the real) world thinks? How can you all be sooo trashy "romantic"...? This is 2010 as the Cat turned into an Imam! Late Lisa is long gone!
Your mastery of logic is, is, is..........non existent! |
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muepy (Germany, near Hamburg) | | Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 12:22 | |
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Randomax (Wimberley, TX) | | Posted: Nov 26, 2010 - 12:20 | |
Wow, two Stevens' songs within a couple of hours....and the good stuff, too!
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michaelgmitchell (Belleville, ON) | | Posted: Jun 20, 2010 - 07:17 | |
Chwkbud wrote:What a flashback. Tea for the Tillerman — Still one of my favourite albums of the last 40 years.... Indeed, fellow Canuck. Sad, however, that his recent attempts to return to the real world with new material pales in comparison to his early work. Awful stuff I've heard lately. He needs to shut it down. |
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Stingray (EUROPE) | | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 12:03 | |
...so America is less tuff than (the real) world thinks? How can you all be sooo trashy "romantic"...? This is 2010 as the Cat turned into an Imam! Late Lisa is long gone!
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peter_james_bond (The Burg) | | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 12:03 | |
Boy he wrote song good ones!
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1wolfy (Mission Viejo California) | | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 12:02 | |
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steeler (Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth) | | Posted: May 19, 2010 - 12:01 | |
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