Sasha2001 (The business end of Bloomberg's education machine.) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2013 - 14:09 | |
lsfeder wrote:I had no idea this was Aimee Man!! WOW! All these years....
"Wait a minute, dad. You're mean to tell me Paul McCartney was in another band before Wings?" - Billy Crystal's son |
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haretic (toward Abad, just south of Maitri) | | Posted: Apr 10, 2013 - 12:21 | |
haretic wrote:It was years after this song was a hit that I listened carefully to the lyrics. I believe it is about a young girl being sexually abused by her father. I have underlined below the phrases which convinced me of this. Imagine a bedroom in a typical suburban home. In the next bedroom perhaps the singer's mother is sleeping. So much of the lyrics make perfect sense in this light. Consider:
"I'm in the dark, I'd like to read his mind but I'm frightened of the things I might find Oh, there must be something he's thinking of to tear him away when I tell him that I'm falling in love why does he say hush hush keep it down now voices carry I try so hard not to get upset because I know all the trouble I'll get oh, he tells me tears are something to hide and something to fear and I try so hard to keep it inside so no one can hear hush hush keep it down now voices carry He wants me but only part of the time He wants me if he can keep me in line hush hush keep it down now voices carry hush hush, darling, she might overhear oh, no-voices carry he said shut up he said shut up oh God can't you keep it down voices carry I wish he would let me talk.
I don't think there is any doubt about it, really. And the song is so bloody profound in light of that. The girl is completely caught in the emotional trap of a horrific situation, abused by a man she adores, and so confused by it all.
It's one of the saddest songs I've ever heard. |
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tomcool (Palm Coast, Florida) | | Posted: Apr 10, 2013 - 12:16 | |
Also a great video. I always loved the ending, when Aimee's character stands in the opera, and starts singing, then belting out, the chorus. Her macho boyfriend cringes with embarrassment, and then literally crawls away, stage right.
In my mind, this song is paired with Tori Amos' "Silent All These Years." Both songs introduced us to women who became star singer/songwriters, and both concerned repression of the female voice.
Maybe, No Doubt's "Just a Girl," lyrics penned by Gwen Stefani, belongs in there, too. Just checked, and its interesting that there are scores of Aimee and Tori songs played here in RP, but only 2 songs by "No Doubt": "Bathwater" and "Spiderwebs", believe it or not: both rated in the 5s, and rarely if ever played. Too bad, "Don't Speak" and "Just a Girl" are great pop songs.
Siempre hay esperanza . . . Bill G. now plays Sade, on occasion!
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1wolfy (Mission Viejo California) | | Posted: Apr 10, 2013 - 12:03 | |
I liked it then..not anymore, but it evokes some cool memories. Two young ladies from Sweden both named Lotta stayed with my roommate and I for the summer. Hey Lotta, are you somewhere out there ? I miss you.. rdo wrote:One of my favorite songs from the 80s.
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heberman (Utah Desert) | | Posted: Apr 10, 2013 - 12:03 | |
My favorite line: "He said, Shut up!"
For some reason I laugh every time I hear it. |
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Limpopoking (The Parish of St. Alfonzo) | | Posted: Mar 10, 2013 - 00:26 | |
coyote620 wrote:Years went by until finally one day I fully listened to the lyrics and realized she wasn't singing "we're so scary". ...and there I was thinking it was a song about Mrs. Kerry |
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sistegraf
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Fabulous song. Those screams at the end make me shiver with audio pleasure and the background low male vocals are astonishing.
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rdo (DC) | | Posted: Feb 06, 2013 - 16:33 | |
One of my favorite songs from the 80s.
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ScottishWillie (The Scottish Lowlands) | | Posted: Aug 02, 2012 - 06:15 | |
I know nothing about this band but I was able to guess the date this song was released by the sound (I was 1 years out). This is so 80’s. |
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coyote620 (Near the river, USA) | | Posted: Aug 02, 2012 - 06:13 | |
Years went by until finally one day I fully listened to the lyrics and realized she wasn't singing "we're so scary".
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(former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | | Posted: May 30, 2012 - 22:06 | |
Cynaera wrote: I totally agree. It's about a woman who's been under the thumb of a man who keeps her as a "toy." She finds her voice, her strength, and speaks out, knowing it will probably end the relationship, but also knowing it will make her independent.
I saw the video for it, and it didn't really do much for me, but the words... the message... Aimee Mann is rather awesome. This version isn't the full-length version, but I'll take it anyway.
And now, let's hear some Jen Trynin!
I miss you so much, Ann...rest in peace... |
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kcar
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dogpound wrote: right? Her voice grew up, but man I love this old stuff. There' s a lot less d-r-a-m-a in her current work, at least compared to this song. I remember a lot of her stuff from the Til Tuesday era as sounding forced. A lot of songs threw in the words "downtown train" as some sort of crutch, which got tired real fast...
But yeah, I really like this song even today. Aimee had (has?) a great voice for belting and drawing out words. |
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lemmoth (NYC) | | Posted: Mar 28, 2012 - 11:10 | |
84MacGuy wrote:Hard to believe this song is 26 years old. It ages well. Easy to believe this song is 26 years old. It is easily identified as an '80s artifact. Thankfully Aimee has moved on to be one of the best singer songwriters of her generation. |
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PA1749 (Room 106) | | Posted: Mar 27, 2012 - 08:00 | |
Great 80s tune, could get enough of it on "Night Tracks"
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PA1749 (Room 106) | | Posted: Mar 27, 2012 - 07:59 | |
You should have kept it and given people something to talk about!  ziakut wrote:Love this song!
I remember I was in a cover band once and we had a list of tunes we planned on learning to add to our repertoire. I was the lead singer and we just systematically used to just check off the songs we've learned. We had so many one week that I just learned all the lyrics and bass part. We played this song for the first time in rehearsal...and all of a sudden we were at the middle-8 part...where she belts out "He wants me...but only part of the time". After all I was on auto pilot when doing this song....after singing that part...I busted up laughing and couldn't get thru the rest of it seriously. Not changing the gender in the song....since I was so used to just learning the lyrics and just running with it. Everytime we played that song in performance I had to muster up as much as I could to just sing the part and replace the word 'he' with 'she' without laughing. I managed...but I always think of that whenever I hear this song. |
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ziakut (Unmoon) | | Posted: Feb 25, 2012 - 18:47 | |
Love this song!
I remember I was in a cover band once and we had a list of tunes we planned on learning to add to our repertoire. I was the lead singer and we just systematically used to just check off the songs we've learned. We had so many one week that I just learned all the lyrics and bass part. We played this song for the first time in rehearsal...and all of a sudden we were at the middle-8 part...where she belts out "He wants me...but only part of the time". After all I was on auto pilot when doing this song....after singing that part...I busted up laughing and couldn't get thru the rest of it seriously. Not changing the gender in the song....since I was so used to just learning the lyrics and just running with it. Everytime we played that song in performance I had to muster up as much as I could to just sing the part and replace the word 'he' with 'she' without laughing. I managed...but I always think of that whenever I hear this song.
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Stratocaster (Bermuda) | | Posted: Jan 25, 2012 - 01:53 | |
Ahhhh, melodic 80s hair pop! LOVE IT!
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wenatchee (Duvall, WA) | | Posted: Nov 22, 2011 - 14:20 | |
She really hits it in this one . . . home run!
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MiracleDrug (Earth) | | Posted: Nov 22, 2011 - 14:19 | |
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haretic (toward Abad, just south of Maitri) | | Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 19:37 | |
I guess it's true what they say: "de Nile" ain't just a river in Egypt.
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Alexandra (Here and Now) | | Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 07:57 | |
Deadwing wrote:A guilty pleasure...  No guilt here - I love it! A staple song for my high school years and beyond......  I still love Aimee Mann's voice & solo work. |
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bluecshells (EARTH) | | Posted: Sep 20, 2011 - 07:57 | |
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Deadwing (Cincinnati OH) | | Posted: Aug 19, 2011 - 23:28 | |
A guilty pleasure...  |
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Krispian (Vancouver, BC) | | Posted: Jul 19, 2011 - 14:54 | |
Splendid pop song. Love the synth
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Cynaera (Kenneth's Frequency) | | Posted: Jul 19, 2011 - 14:48 | |
I read somewhere that the name "Til Tuesday" came from the band's practice sessions, which were always held on Tuesdays. They'd wrap up their rehearsals by saying, "Til Tuesday," meaning "See you next Tuesday." I love the very ending of this song - just before the fade-out, she sings, "I wish.... he would.... let me go..."
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84MacGuy (Portland, Oregon) | | Posted: Jul 19, 2011 - 14:43 | |
Hard to believe this song is 26 years old. It ages well.
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Proclivities (Carrboro, NC) | | Posted: May 17, 2011 - 08:07 | |
PA1749 wrote:This came out my junior year of high school. What a great song. I remember the discussions about the bands name. It wasn't something concrete and if opened the door for whole new concept in group names. One of my favorite videos on TBS's Night Tracks! Any other Pre-MTV folks out there remember Night Tracks? We had gotten MTV from our cable provider before Night Tracks was around, but I do remember that program too. This is a good tune; I always thought they took the band name from David Bowie's early track " Love You 'Til Tuesday", maybe not though. |
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PA1749 (Jim Thorpe) | | Posted: May 17, 2011 - 07:48 | |
This came out my junior year of high school. What a great song. I remember the discussions about the bands name. It wasn't something concrete and if opened the door for whole new concept in group names. One of my favorite videos on TBS's Night Tracks! Any other Pre-MTV folks out there remember Night Tracks?
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haretic (toward Abad, just south of Maitri) | | Posted: Apr 15, 2011 - 18:41 | |
romeotuma wrote:This song is actually quite profound... quite an excellent song... Cynaera wrote: I totally agree. It's about a woman who's been under the thumb of a man who keeps her as a "toy." She finds her voice, her strength, and speaks out, knowing it will probably end the relationship, but also knowing it will make her independent.
I saw the video for it, and it didn't really do much for me, but the words... the message... Aimee Mann is rather awesome. This version isn't the full-length version, but I'll take it anyway.
And now, let's hear some Jen Trynin!
The 80's were something of a blur for me. I did not generally listen closely to "new" music, and didn't care for much of what was on the radio. Within the last three years, I listened to this song and read the lyrics as I did for the first time. I was stunned. I think this was and is an amazingly daring song, and that it slipped under the radar of denial that most people in our society have put up in their minds around the subject of childhood sexual abuse. Because that is exactly what I think this song is about. Consider: "I'm in the dark, I'd like to read his mind but I'm frightened of the things I might find Oh, there must be something he's thinking of to tear him away when I tell him that I'm falling in love why does he say hush hush keep it down now voices carry I try so hard not to get upset because I know all the trouble I'll get oh, he tells me tears are something to hide and something to fear and I try so hard to keep it inside so no one can hear hush hush keep it down now voices carry He wants me but only part of the time He wants me if he can keep me in line hush hush keep it down now voices carry hush hush, darling, she might overhear oh, no-voices carry he said shut up he said shut up oh God can't you keep it down voices carry I wish he would let me talk. I don't think there is any doubt about it, really. And the song is so bloody profound in light of that. The girl is completely caught in the emotional trap of a horrific situation, abused by a man she adores, and so confused by it all. It's one of the saddest songs I've ever heard. |
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rathersnappish (5363 miles from Santa Cruz, CA) | | Posted: Mar 15, 2011 - 08:10 | |
I haven't heard this one for a while. I absolutely love 'Til Tuesday, though the beauty of the Welcome Home and Everything's Different Now albums far surpasses the most commercially successful Voices Carry, which is a real shame. Aimee Mann has always excelled at putting personal pain into words and music, in particular on Everything's Different Now, which has several songs dealing with the very painful breakup of a relationship. "Why Must I", "Rip In Heaven", (Believed) You Were Lucky" and "The Other End (Of The Telescope)" are among my favourite song of all time. After 'Til Tuesday broke up I was really looking forward to Aimee Mann's solo albums, but I never really got along with them. They didn't seem as gloriously tuneful to me as her work with 'Til Tuesday.
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