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Artist:Elton John [ more ]
Song:Mona Lisas And Mad Hatters
Album:Honky Chateau [ info ]
Released:1972
Last Played:May 08, 2013 - 03:11
Avg. Rating:7.9  (Total Ratings: 630)
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kingart
(Brooklyn NY)
Posted: Mar 06, 2013 - 11:41 

Elton in classic mode. His songs rang with priceless sincerity. There was no one better in these years, long before he became caricature of himself, and FM radio annihilated his artistry with endless repetitions of the execrable Bennie and the Jets. 
h8rhater
Posted: Mar 06, 2013 - 11:41 

 jhorton wrote:


Or maybe he was just out of his mind on booze and coke for roughly two decades.....
 
Maybe he was out of his mind on booze and coke when he made the music that everyone loves from the 70's. 
d-don
(Oregon)
Posted: Mar 06, 2013 - 11:39 

He was so good then...


KurtfromLaQuinta
(Deep in the heart of South California)
Posted: Mar 06, 2013 - 11:38 

I love the mandolin in this.
MsJudi
(Houston, TX)
Posted: Jan 02, 2013 - 19:30 

Oh yes, Elton and Bernie at their best.
atthetone
Posted: Dec 02, 2012 - 11:05 

Back to me youth we go. still in high school..elton was ruling the airwaves, parting ways or not using Mr Taupin anymore...mistake imho.
jhorton
(Trailer Park on Cape Cod)
Posted: Jul 29, 2012 - 17:21 

 h8rhater wrote:

Maybe Elton just followed the money in the 80's, lost his credibility, and couldn't get back to where he was (like Phil Collins and Rod Stewart).  Maybe he lost his grounding in Taupin's absence (the album that he collaborated with Taupin on in '07, The Captain and the Kid, is actually quite good and harkens back to those early albums).  Maybe old people just can't make good music because they are not young, enthusiastic, and optimistic (a patently absurd position). 

Maybe Elton followed his own desires, created the music he wanted to, and it just didn't appeal to others as much as the older material.  Just because an artist isn't ringing-your-bell anymore, doesn't mean he isn't following his own.
 

Or maybe he was just out of his mind on booze and coke for roughly two decades.....
h8rhater
Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 07:11 

 mread wrote:

(Sorry, have to weigh in, too...)  With Elton John, the "change" seemed inevitable.  His stuff was so good and unique and he was so successful that it was too good to be true.... couldn't last forever.  lmic expressed that idea well.  With REM, their evolution seemed more deliberate than inevitable.  Hence the muddle.

What about Joni Mitchell?  Early stuff super good, later stuff has no appeal to me, yet she was such a creative genius and innovator that there was no way she would keep to her early form.  So, one is stuck between anger and resignation.
 
Maybe Elton just followed the money in the 80's, lost his credibility, and couldn't get back to where he was (like Phil Collins and Rod Stewart).  Maybe he lost his grounding in Taupin's absence (the album that he collaborated with Taupin on in '07, The Captain and the Kid, is actually quite good and harkens back to those early albums).  Maybe old people just can't make good music because they are not young, enthusiastic, and optimistic (a patently absurd position). 

Maybe Elton followed his own desires, created the music he wanted to, and it just didn't appeal to others as much as the older material.  Just because an artist isn't ringing-your-bell anymore, doesn't mean he isn't following his own.
emmo_radio
Posted: Apr 25, 2012 - 16:15 

One of the best NYC tributes out there. Also love the Indigos cover.
Decoy
(Milliway's, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe)
Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 06:40 

 Rooney wrote:
But the same could hold true for many artists.  Really great early stuff, sucky later stuff.  Elvis comes to mind, Elton John is fabulous from 1970-75.  That's when it ended for me.  The only ones who held up until the very end, imo, were the Beatles.  I'm not an REM fan so I can't comment on them. 
 
The Anti-Beatles? Started off, bubble gum and poppy, then Strawberry Fields, and then Abbey Road, which is one of the best albums. Ever.
Stratocaster
(Bermuda)
Posted: Dec 07, 2011 - 14:04 

Always reminded me of saving my pennies until I could buy "Honky Chateau" for $5.29 at the age of 13.  Until that scene in "Almost Famous".  Now I think of that when I hear this song.
gpcracker
(London, UK)
Posted: Nov 19, 2011 - 02:05 

I remember driving a uhaul on the upper east side with my fiancée and best friend and this song came on - we were all moving into the city. It was one of those clear, fall days in nyc, I had the windows down and shoddy stereo blasted. It was one of the best moments of my life.
On_The_Beach
(Vancouver BC, Bud)
Posted: Jun 14, 2011 - 10:46 

 tphord wrote:
On the subject of how and why do artists music evolve over the years... in many peoples view, often for the worse.

My thought is that it is very tied to their evolution and growth as individual people affected and changed over time by their life experiences.

I think the early music is inspired by the dreams, hope and optimism of youth... the change (or cessation) of an artists music later in life a direct result of the cynicism or perhaps perspective that comes as we mature, and changes those early emotions significantly.

Just a thought... {#Angel}
 
. . . and boatloads of cocaine.


tphord
(Up 'ere)
Posted: Apr 12, 2011 - 06:14 

On the subject of how and why do artists music evolve over the years... in many peoples view, often for the worse.

My thought is that it is very tied to their evolution and growth as individual people affected and changed over time by their life experiences.

I think the early music is inspired by the dreams, hope and optimism of youth... the change (or cessation) of an artists music later in life a direct result of the cynicism or perhaps perspective that comes as we mature, and changes those early emotions significantly.

Just a thought... {#Angel}
mfcrowe
(Chicago,, IL)
Posted: Mar 11, 2011 - 17:23 

"And I thank the Lord for the people I have found"...truly I do...
Tamster
(31)
Posted: Mar 11, 2011 - 17:16 

 mread wrote:

(Sorry, have to weigh in, too...)  With Elton John, the "change" seemed inevitable.  His stuff was so good and unique and he was so successful that it was too good to be true.... couldn't last forever.  lmic expressed that idea well.  With REM, their evolution seemed more deliberate than inevitable.  Hence the muddle.

What about Joni Mitchell?  Early stuff super good, later stuff has no appeal to me, yet she was such a creative genius and innovator that there was no way she would keep to her early form.  So, one is stuck between anger and resignation.
 
Can't help but wonder if the record companies didn't finally have their way with them .............just saying...........
Jelani
(Home of the freak, land of the vague)
Posted: Feb 08, 2011 - 09:16 

 Hannio wrote:


Just out of curiosity, how is "whinge" pronounced?  Similar to "singe" or "hinge", or like "whine"?
 
Yes, pronounced as in singe and hinge. Winj. Meaning as in whine.
mread
(Sun Diego)
Posted: Dec 07, 2010 - 12:03 

 lmic wrote:
I just noticed something funny. People who love early Elton but not his later work (like me) express their disappointment as sadness, remaining resignedly loyal to the early stuff. But people who love early R.E.M. and not their later work (again, me), tend more toward anger or at least outrage, and seem to be kind of pissed off at the band, as if we were duped by the first 5 albums or something.
Hmmm.
 
(Sorry, have to weigh in, too...)  With Elton John, the "change" seemed inevitable.  His stuff was so good and unique and he was so successful that it was too good to be true.... couldn't last forever.  lmic expressed that idea well.  With REM, their evolution seemed more deliberate than inevitable.  Hence the muddle.

What about Joni Mitchell?  Early stuff super good, later stuff has no appeal to me, yet she was such a creative genius and innovator that there was no way she would keep to her early form.  So, one is stuck between anger and resignation.


mread
(Sun Diego)
Posted: Dec 07, 2010 - 11:54 

 Randomax wrote:
Ah yes....the old stuff..........but doesn't the change have a lot to do with splitting w/Bernie Taupin?  Were they still together for this album?  I would bet they were....IMHO it all fell apart after that...once EJ had to write (or co-write) and be the melody man it just turned to commercial crap (altho it wasn't ALL crap - but def. different!)
 
Elton was always the melody man.  Taupin did the lyrics and not much else.  The "commercialization" began before they split — started showing up on Yellow Brick Road, as far as I'm concerned.


fingerpin
(oHIo)
Posted: Dec 07, 2010 - 11:28 

I thank the lord for the people I have found. {#Yes}
Hannio
(Austin, TX)
Posted: Dec 07, 2010 - 11:27 

 Toke wrote:
shattup !!! oooooooooooooooo my ears .. whinge whinge whinge !!!
 

Just out of curiosity, how is "whinge" pronounced?  Similar to "singe" or "hinge", or like "whine"?

Fredrikson
(Stockholm)
Posted: Dec 07, 2010 - 11:27 

 sirdroseph wrote:


I don't see that, I have no anger towards REM or Elton, just think that pretty much everything Elton did after around 1977 and REM after 1992 or so pretty much sucks ass and it is really strange and ironic.
 
They used to make good music, but now they make bad music. If that's not the definition of irony then I don't know what is!

Rooney
(Near Paradise)
Posted: Nov 05, 2010 - 20:15 

But the same could hold true for many artists.  Really great early stuff, sucky later stuff.  Elvis comes to mind, Elton John is fabulous from 1970-75.  That's when it ended for me.  The only ones who held up until the very end, imo, were the Beatles.  I'm not an REM fan so I can't comment on them. 
sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: Sep 03, 2010 - 04:15 

 lmic wrote:
I just noticed something funny. People who love early Elton but not his later work (like me) express their disappointment as sadness, remaining resignedly loyal to the early stuff. But people who love early R.E.M. and not their later work (again, me), tend more toward anger or at least outrage, and seem to be kind of pissed off at the band, as if we were duped by the first 5 albums or something.
Hmmm.
 

I don't see that, I have no anger towards REM or Elton, just think that pretty much everything Elton did after around 1977 and REM after 1992 or so pretty much sucks ass and it is really strange and ironic. I wish them both well and thank them for the wonderful music they put out in the early periods of their respective careers. I just wish that both of them would stop recording is all (Stones too).
MaryM
(WeHo CA)
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 - 18:20 

 xkolibuul wrote:
I first learned this tune on vinyl years ago, and never heard it again until RP.  That record had a big skip in the middle of the first refrain—the kind where you'd have to bump the turntable to get the needle progressing again—and its weird to hear the song without it.  

 

I had a Janis Joplin album like that, every time I hear the song I stumble when it doesn't skip
a_genuine_find
(not me, Radio P) (3rd stone, sol, orion belt, milkyway)
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 - 18:20 

     now forever imprinted on my mind
chappin broccolichappin broccoli
chappin broccolichappin broccoli
Randomax
(Wimberley, TX)
Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 13:27 

Ah yes....the old stuff..........but doesn't the change have a lot to do with splitting w/Bernie Taupin?  Were they still together for this album?  I would bet they were....IMHO it all fell apart after that...once EJ had to write (or co-write) and be the melody man it just turned to commercial crap (altho it wasn't ALL crap - but def. different!)
sickels
(Boulder, CO)
Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 13:26 

this song is great, 1972 huh linzie wrote:


yeah, me too
 


tompoll
(Seattle WA USA)
Posted: Dec 23, 2009 - 16:33 

 lmic wrote:
I just noticed something funny. People who love early Elton but not his later work (like me) express their disappointment as sadness, remaining resignedly loyal to the early stuff. But people who love early R.E.M. and not their later work (again, me), tend more toward anger or at least outrage, and seem to be kind of pissed off at the band, as if we were duped by the first 5 albums or something.
Hmmm.
 
Interesting, and I think you're generally right! Perhaps the Elton fans think he just changed as an artist, whereas the REM fans felt they sold out. I'm guessing, 'cause I like both old and new REM—for different reasons.
linzie
Posted: Dec 23, 2009 - 16:28 

 michaelgmitchell wrote:
 rbigelo wrote:
Singing along and about to cry ...
Gets me every time, too. Don't know why, just does. Maybe taking me back to my youth.


 

yeah, me too
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