philipr wrote: 
I hope this invitation is open to everyone - because I can

"it's awful."

And I mean that in a bad way. Not like these young people you see today who say "bad", meaning "Jolly Good", and "sick", meaning "Absolutely wonderful". I mean "awful", meaning "really awful".

Love this album and everything about the early Genesis. Your right went south not to far after this.. 

 Tippster wrote: 
That's right! But again all the proggy groups made a change in taht time, so I think it has to be seen in the whole context. Even Gabriel and Hackett turned away from classic prog rock in the late 70s (although not making simple pop).

get it?

 chris_the_man wrote: 
Can you say more ?

The only post-Gabriel Genesis album I can stand. Not my favorite piece from it though.

 mineralBOB wrote: 
Genesis changed more when Steve Hackett left the band.  This album didn't have Gabriel, yet sounds much more like the proggy Genesis than the later pop-oriented stuff.

In my opinion this is a great piece of music and all the discussion about Gabriel or Collins or whatever is redundant. If you can except the idea of two different bands (which in fact they were, due to the fact that one charismatic frontman was displaced by another - although big differences in style) and the musical change during that time period (1975-1977, when most of the progrock went down the hill) it is still great and ambitious music and great performance - whether you like it or not!

Oh, a rare genesis. Never heard this on commercial media.
I dig it enough for a 7.

Of its time, for me most Genesis from the early 70's has aged badly or is it that as a teenager I didn't recognise it for what it was

johncjohn said:

"Trick of the Tail" and "Then There Were Three" were great post Gabriel albums by Genesis
After that , Genesis went off a cliff. 
The similarity between Genesis and Coldplay's career is very striking.  Both had a lot of promise at first, but both became sell outs. Both lost touch with music and decided to create pop hits. yuk 
But this one is good.

couldn´ agree more with most of that, johnc, only that the cliff (and it was a vertical one, and of gigantic proportions!!) Genesis went off did not met them AFTER "Then There Were Three". with this album, they were already falling down the deep deep abyss 
for a really HUGE fan (that´s what i was, then) THEN THERE WERE THREE was absolutely shocking. i remember is was literally crying for hours when i heard the record the first time. out of anger & frustration!
ahhhh: nothing hurts more than betrayed love  

Hadn't heard this since when it came out and a good friend was into Genesis big time, along with Supertramp. Nice.

I've never been a Collins fan...and I'm from the 80's! This is no different.

 sajitjacob wrote: 
Phil Collins didn't do a lot of singing until after Peter Gabriel left the band, so it's not likely that Gabriel was ever trying to sound like his former drummer.

"Trick of the Tail" and "Then There Were Three" were great post Gabriel albums by Genesis
After that , Genesis went off a cliff. 

The similarity between Genesis and Coldplay's career is very striking.  Both had a lot of promise at first, but both became sell outs. Both lost touch with music and decided to create pop hits. yuk 
But this one is good.

I could have sworn this was early Gabriel, turns out it was post Gabriel Genesis. So is Collins trying to sound like Gabriel or Visa Versa? Or (as I'd like to believe) did they just have trouble breaking free of the sound they created together. Curious. Boring. Whatever.

I never get tired of listening to old Genesis.  For about 10 years they were a great band. And then for some reason they went pop and I quit listening. 

 ddog wrote: 
Are we voting, or expressing an opinion regarding a subjective topic?  If the former, you win; if the latter - well. . . let's just say that we all win. . . 

Please make it stop!!

Just think back how many years ago this was recorded (and many others of the same genre) and what 'technological recording equipment' was available then and the pleasurable music they could deliver..... in comparison to some of the newer just  "Open Can Here and Pour" .

First album sans Gabriel (who I still rate very high in his own right)..... and they did a great job - Timeless......

 Sasha2001 wrote: 
when Hentschel focused Phil on sounding as much like Peter as possible and Steve was still on board EVERYTHING still worked (mostly)...

when Steve left though HELLO THE PHIL COLLINS SHOW

Dribble

 bytheway wrote: 
This is a great point.  I have no doubt this is why I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of buying individual songs.

9 to 10

 vandal wrote: 
Clearly in the minority..

Why didn't you introduce entangled. I love it to ...