rdo
(DC) | | Posted: Jun 16, 2013 - 08:17 | |
h8rhater wrote:
Take is somewhere else boys.
Music is the topic.
Nope, will not do. There are not very many comments here anyway. Once people start commenting on the purported "topic of music", then I'll step aside, or limit my comments to just music. I am pretty tired of seeing the vast majority of pages devoid of any commentary (music, or otherwise). I am going to comment on what I feel like. If you do not like it, then you can go somewhere else. I would welcome some real thoughtful commentary by you, BTW. (I won't hold my breath.) |
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BWGunner
(Midwest, always the midwest) | | Posted: Jun 09, 2013 - 13:06 | |
ooooh, Shearwater Whipping Boy to this transition was sooooo eerie and luscious, that was beautiful!
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Tennisgirl
(Stones Throw from T.O.) | | Posted: May 15, 2013 - 12:24 | |
Wow! This song has really stood up well to time....only just realizing after several listens, it's from 1969!!! I thought it was much more current. It's pretty darn nice to be able to say this was before my time --I hardly ever get to do that anymore; made my day :) |
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h8rhater
| | Posted: May 15, 2013 - 12:18 | |
rdo wrote:Byronape, what I have said is really beyond dispute. If you don't know this, then you're not looking very closely. Universities are notoriously hostile to conservatives, and hiring conservatives, for example. I'll also just give a couple non-ideological examples, but I could give hundreds: Larry Summers comments about women and mathematics that were uncontroversial and that caused a national uproar and nearly lost him his job; E.O. Wilson's writings about evolutionary biology that were met with near-violent protests. My main point though, which you seem to agree on, is that we can no longer even talk about race. We’re all too scared to open our mouths! PC-ness is harmful to the people it’s meant to help. BTW, you get no argument from me as to your assessment of the Juan Williams case. I don't care about bias at NPR so much, that was not really my point. He should not have been fired. He is a good man, a good liberal. I have no problem with what he said that got him fired. I watched that episode live, BTW, and I thought nothing of it at the time. He's right! Take is somewhere else boys. Music is the topic. |
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socalhol
(Seattle) | | Posted: Mar 13, 2013 - 19:01 | |
.....MORE cymbals!!...........(just kidding - they do kinda stick out like cowbells, though) I do love this song just the way it is.
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jocelynsart
| | Posted: Jan 13, 2013 - 14:07 | |
I absolutely Love this song!!!!!!!! Hard to listen to it is so good, almost too perfect.
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Lichenia,
(uk) | | Posted: Jan 03, 2013 - 09:57 | |
I'm going home soon after many years!
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mistabird
(frei republik allgäu) | | Posted: Dec 03, 2012 - 01:08 | |
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helgigermany
(Germany) | | Posted: Sep 06, 2012 - 09:59 | |
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rdo
(DC) | | Posted: Sep 03, 2012 - 15:47 | |
Byronape, what I have said is really beyond dispute. If you don't know this, then you're not looking very closely. Universities are notoriously hostile to conservatives, and hiring conservatives, for example. I'll also just give a couple non-ideological examples, but I could give hundreds: Larry Summers comments about women and mathematics that were uncontroversial and that caused a national uproar and nearly lost him his job; E.O. Wilson's writings about evolutionary biology that were met with near-violent protests. My main point though, which you seem to agree on, is that we can no longer even talk about race. We’re all too scared to open our mouths! PC-ness is harmful to the people it’s meant to help. BTW, you get no argument from me as to your assessment of the Juan Williams case. I don't care about bias at NPR so much, that was not really my point. He should not have been fired. He is a good man, a good liberal. I have no problem with what he said that got him fired. I watched that episode live, BTW, and I thought nothing of it at the time. He's right! |
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Byronape
("post-capitalist wreckageville") | | Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 08:04 | |
rdo wrote:
If we don't stand up for our rights, then pretty soon we won't be able to open our mouths at all with-out the thought police tapping us on the shoulder and hauling us into the klink. Political correctness was just a very bad idea, and now it is out of control. What little good comes from it is far out-weighed by the harm it does. It's sad that Academia, the institution that is most entrusted to defend our rights, and promote diversity of thought, is the most hostile to free expression and diversity of thought. Look up Juan Williams and the numerous abuses of NPR. There's a conspiracy for all the nut-jobs who love to trash private enterprise and commercial enterprise. Read about the foibles of NPR in the last few years.
Juan Williams was fired from NPR for appearing on The O'Riley Factor and saying "Look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous." NPR released a statement saying that his comments were "inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR."
If you are referring to claims of bias, those have come in from both sides. There have been a little bit of adjustment in the upper management in an attempted to enforce impartiality, but by and large the only people that still scream bias are the people on the outsides of each group. 45 seconds on a highly cited Wikipedia page brought up this little gem. Surveys and follow-up focus groups conducted by the Tarrance Group and Lake Snell Perry & Associates have indicated that, "The majority of the U.S. adult population does not believe that the news and information programming on public broadcasting is biased. The plurality of Americans indicate that there is no apparent bias one way or the other, while approximately one-in-five detect a liberal bias and approximately one-in-ten detect a conservative bias."How is it that Academia has shown hostile to "free expression and diversity of thought"? Free expression can be taken too far if it slanders someone or contains factual inaccuracies. How has Academia negatively impacted diversity of thought? That's kinda running counter to the whole point of academic studies. As for your comment on political correctness, I actually kinda agree. Political correctness can be (and frequently is) taken too far. However, there is no way to enforce a common sense way of communicating so there have to have been some rules created. As I said before, free expression can be taken to an extreme and can infringe on my rights not to be publicly mocked or singled out due to some kind of difference. |
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kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto) | | Posted: Aug 13, 2012 - 19:43 | |
jberko wrote:Funny how a song's meaning morphs with age. I was 14 when the album released, and through a teenager's eyes I could feel the angst of not knowing where I belonged.... 42 years later, after going through a divorce in a relationship of over 40 years, I feel a heaviness of not being able to find my way home. Yes, good music always ages well. Hope your situation gets better soon. |
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TerryS
(Another SW) | | Posted: Aug 13, 2012 - 19:42 | |
iTuner wrote:
Give me a break. Let's go back and change history. I went to Florence Italy and asked them to cover up the statue of David.
Don't like the cover, close your eyes and listen to the great song.
As for David, he'd only need an itty bitty little cover-up. |
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Baketown
(Maryland) | | Posted: Jul 30, 2012 - 07:59 | |
Nice Monday Morning Song, Thanks Bill ! |
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rdo
(DC) | | Posted: Jul 13, 2012 - 09:21 | |
mandolin wrote:
...that's really sad to think about; how stifled expression has become...
If we don't stand up for our rights, then pretty soon we won't be able to open our mouths at all with-out the thought police tapping us on the shoulder and hauling us into the klink. Political correctness was just a very bad idea, and now it is out of control. What little good comes from it is far out-weighed by the harm it does. It's sad that Academia, the institution that is most entrusted to defend our rights, and promote diversity of thought, is the most hostile to free expression and diversity of thought. Look up Juan Williams and the numerous abuses of NPR. There's a conspiracy for all the nut-jobs who love to trash private enterprise and commercial enterprise. Read about the foibles of NPR in the last few years. |
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Post-Horn
| | Posted: Jul 05, 2012 - 12:09 | |
One of the fist songs, I learned on guitar.
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lily34
(lexvegas) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2012 - 06:53 | |
i remember the first time i heard this song. it broke my heart. i still feel a sting when i hear it...so beautiful.
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robh
(up t'north UK) | | Posted: May 24, 2012 - 15:15 | |
gypsyman wrote:I never really liked or understood the cover, but I never spent a lot of of time analyzing/worrying about it, and never really had any energy to direct at it. I liked the music. I just finished reading Clapton's autobiog and there was controversy when the album cover was released. Saying that, from a personal point of view, I like neither the cover nor the track. |
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gypsyman
(just passing through....) | | Posted: Mar 25, 2012 - 13:19 | |
I never really liked or understood the cover, but I never spent a lot of of time analyzing/worrying about it, and never really had any energy to direct at it. I liked the music.
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slott
(Ugerløse, Denmark) | | Posted: Mar 22, 2012 - 04:49 | |
I dont mind the cover. But i really think the song sounds horrible. The cymbal crash sounds ... weird - and a whining singer.
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iTuner
| | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 13:21 | |
Kokoloco53 wrote:I have two daughters, and question RP's choice of album covers, even in this age, though not totally offensive, a little 12 yr old holding a phallic symbol in her hand, which obviously is erotic art. Oh, heck, ok, it was the 60's. I'm just sayin...... Give me a break. Let's go back and change history. I went to Florence Italy and asked them to cover up the statue of David. Don't like the cover, close your eyes and listen to the great song. |
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tkosh
(Minnesota) | | Posted: Feb 19, 2012 - 10:46 | |
Just watched a documentary on Netflix about this great band. I didn't make the end—interesting, for sure, but very dry, very little music, and a big disappointment. Maybe they just couldn't secure the footage. But this music takes me back to high school! I love this album!
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kenk
| | Posted: Feb 08, 2012 - 11:41 | |
reminds me of the good old days. ckcotton wrote:Brilliant time and again
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ckcotton
(Adding snarky comments since 2007) | | Posted: Jan 14, 2012 - 09:04 | |
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KalleB
(German Plain) | | Posted: Jan 07, 2012 - 17:28 | |
I'm from Germany. I learnt english at school and didn't practise since then. So be patient, please. But ... Why have I to apologize finding nudity for wonderful, for deeply human? Nudity of old people, of young ones and of all between. I'm so lucky to raise up in the "wild" 70ies when this was not a question. And believe me or not - I am not a child abuser... Why must the pendulum of public opinion always kick to the maximum? Keep cool... |
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Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC) | | Posted: Dec 21, 2011 - 10:11 | |
rulebritannia wrote:
This cover won the Steve Winwood favorite cover contest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4FId2Sy2fk
Hard to imagine, Our culture finds nudity more of a problem than we did in the late 60s. Then, again, my teenagers are boys!
I'm not sure if society finds it more of a problem, but there are more specific laws in place nowadays. Distributing or possessing nude imagery of minors is usually illegal. Unfortunately, many of the people who write these laws don't know - or can't see - the differences between art and smut. That said, there are probably a great many fetishists who own this album just for the cover art. |
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rulebritannia
(NYC - Back in the USA!) | | Posted: Dec 13, 2011 - 14:50 | |
Kokoloco53 wrote:I have two daughters, and question RP's choice of album covers, even in this age, though not totally offensive, a little 12 yr old holding a phallic symbol in her hand, which obviously is erotic art. Oh, heck, ok, it was the 60's. I'm just sayin...... Otherwise, what a great album. RP plays a cover of this song which is actually as good and in many ways better, by Ellen Mcllwaine and if you haven't heard her beautiful voice singing this song, you're missing something extra special.
This cover won the Steve Winwood favorite cover contest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4FId2Sy2fk Hard to imagine, Our culture finds nudity more of a problem than we did in the late 60s. Then, again, my teenagers are boys! |
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ozzie1313
| | Posted: Nov 26, 2011 - 09:03 | |
Just tuned in and immediately transported to a better time by first song I hear. |
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Kokoloco53
(Safford, AZ) | | Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 06:45 | |
I have two daughters, and question RP's choice of album covers, even in this age, though not totally offensive, a little 12 yr old holding a phallic symbol in her hand, which obviously is erotic art. Oh, heck, ok, it was the 60's. I'm just sayin...... Otherwise, what a great album. RP plays a cover of this song which is actually as good and in many ways better, by Ellen Mcllwaine and if you haven't heard her beautiful voice singing this song, you're missing something extra special.
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megaboogieman
(Russia, Gulag Archipelago) | | Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 06:38 | |
Great line-up and album. Unfortunately did not last long.
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