rcurrier
(San Juan Capistrano, CA) | | Posted: May 13, 2005 - 17:56 | |
jerseygirl wrote:RCURRIER:
GET AN INTERIOR LIFE.
Errr.... this comment has what to do with my post exactly?
You did follow the link, didn't you? And you did get the joke didn't you?
No, well let me explain it: What should be a spiritual message has been hijacked by a bunch of corporate cronies to enrich themselves at the expense of the same people the messenger was saying to help. That's irony.
Or was it that it all struck a little too close to home?
Oh never mind. I guess I'll just go get a tapeworm. |
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talus
(Des Moines, IA) | | Posted: May 13, 2005 - 17:45 | |
NiceGuy2005 wrote:
So anyway...may be can all get on with the one true universal truth taught by all great prophets from Jesus, to Buddha and Mohammad: Love they neighbor and boogie down! :D/
Ahmen :goodvibes:   |
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NiceGuy2005
(Denver, CO) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2005 - 11:05 | |
trekhead wrote: UPDATE:
Forums didn't do any good.
Lotsa hate there. Point I was GOING (italics) to make was that it seemed like a better idea to discuss these issues outside the comment pages. NEAR ZERO understanding. Out of 16 pages , last count, maybe 3 (three) posters had a sympathetic/open-minded/willing angle to discuss HOW faith can make its way ino music and that that CAN'T be a bad thing. Sure, express how the tune effects you/doesn't , but lets not automatically HATE an artist/tune if it mentions what God did/does for us.
For those of you keeping track of my punctuation, instead of discussing the issue, the SLASH is my new bad habit.
Never even heard from
kevbo77
madtowner11
or jerseygirl
And I notified them . One would think they were afraid of getting into a religious discussion bout un armed. What do I know?
Oh, that's right, UNIVERSAL TRUTH does exist outside of our acceptance/denial of it. Seems logical that we should at least GRASP that.
People don't want to believe, they ain't gonna believe. Lets make sure to stand on the outside of the circle of believers and ridicule those inside, however. Thanks again for hearing me out. Someone else want to start a forum? Feel free to contact me.
Ain't freedom of expression great?
Fire away.
So anyway...may be can all get on with the one true universal truth taught by all great prophets from Jesus, to Buddha and Mohammad: Love they neighbor and boogie down! :D/ |
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PattonFever
(wherever i go, there i am.) | | Posted: Apr 07, 2005 - 18:20 | |
trekhead wrote: UPDATE:
Forums didn't do any good.
Lotsa hate there. Point I was GOING (italics) to make was that it seemed like a better idea to discuss these issues outside the comment pages. NEAR ZERO understanding. Out of 16 pages , last count, maybe 3 (three) posters had a sympathetic/open-minded/willing angle to discuss HOW faith can make its way ino music and that that CAN'T be a bad thing. Sure, express how the tune effects you/doesn't , but lets not automatically HATE an artist/tune if it mentions what God did/does for us.
For those of you keeping track of my punctuation, instead of discussing the issue, the SLASH is my new bad habit.
Never even heard from
kevbo77
madtowner11
or jerseygirl
And I notified them . One would think they were afraid of getting into a religious discussion bout un armed. What do I know?
Oh, that's right, UNIVERSAL TRUTH does exist outside of our acceptance/denial of it. Seems logical that we should at least GRASP that.
People don't want to believe, they ain't gonna believe. Lets make sure to stand on the outside of the circle of believers and ridicule those inside, however. Thanks again for hearing me out. Someone else want to start a forum? Feel free to contact me.
Ain't freedom of expression great?
Fire away.
oh cram it, would you? stop being a drama queen, already. that goes for the rest of you, too. this is stupid. no one is actually having a religious discussion or debate or whatever. it's all just 'YER DUMM!' 'NAH YER DUMM!' 'WUTEVA I DO WUT I WANT!' you are all over 15, right? :D |
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PattonFever
(wherever i go, there i am.) | | Posted: Apr 07, 2005 - 18:13 | |
Xeric wrote:I don't have to agree with the lyric's sentiments (it happens in this case that I do not) to still think it's a killer song sung by one of the compelling voices ever recorded. . . .
i suppose 'amen' is the right thing to say, here, no? :D |
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PattonFever
(wherever i go, there i am.) | | Posted: Apr 07, 2005 - 18:08 | |
'you are bitter fruit to eat'
i love that.
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trekhead
| | Posted: Mar 09, 2005 - 08:39 | |
UPDATE:
Forums didn't do any good.
Lotsa hate there. Point I was GOING (italics) to make was that it seemed like a better idea to discuss these issues outside the comment pages. NEAR ZERO understanding. Out of 16 pages , last count, maybe 3 (three) posters had a sympathetic/open-minded/willing angle to discuss HOW faith can make its way ino music and that that CAN'T be a bad thing. Sure, express how the tune effects you/doesn't , but lets not automatically HATE an artist/tune if it mentions what God did/does for us.
For those of you keeping track of my punctuation, instead of discussing the issue, the SLASH is my new bad habit.
Never even heard from
kevbo77
madtowner11
or jerseygirl
And I notified them . One would think they were afraid of getting into a religious discussion bout un armed. What do I know?
Oh, that's right, UNIVERSAL TRUTH does exist outside of our acceptance/denial of it. Seems logical that we should at least GRASP that.
People don't want to believe, they ain't gonna believe. Lets make sure to stand on the outside of the circle of believers and ridicule those inside, however. Thanks again for hearing me out. Someone else want to start a forum? Feel free to contact me.
Ain't freedom of expression great?
Fire away.
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mrmojorisin
(Dallas, Texas) | | Posted: Mar 09, 2005 - 07:12 | |
Is it really ironic that Jesus was a carpenter and nailed to a wooden cross? I guess... but... just doesn't seem that ironic to me. Besides, didn't Alanis already do the whole irony thing?
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trekhead
| | Posted: Mar 01, 2005 - 07:11 | |
I guess he told ME!
Shall we carry this over to the forums, people?
btw, the tune IS actually pretty cool.
(opinion, not THE UNIVERSAL TRUTH)
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Derecho
(The Land With No Traffic Lights) | | Posted: Feb 22, 2005 - 12:57 | |
Trustocity wrote:
You don't really... I mean... you don't REALLY think you can talk this way and be taken seriously as a sane alternative to what you call wacko? I mean, can you? SERIOUSLY? Really???
You're delusional. Set aside the validity of your opinions; I'm just talking about the words that are coming out of your mouth. You're just... I mean... wow, that's so dumb. Every Christian reading your rant is saying, "Y'know, sometimes I feel like I might be nuts, but at least I'm not as nuts as THIS ass, so maybe Christianity is for real." So on that front, thanks, but otherwise, wow.
Ah, I see the Christian Defense Shield has been activated: "You're calling me a wacko? Well clearly you're a wacko for calling me a wacko!"
Sure 9/11 shook you up and made you wonder about extremists, because you saw it on TV. But you did not see the Crusades on TV, and TV is not showing you how Christians are holding relief over the heads tsunami victims, forcing them to convert before that relief is given to them.
I'm not blaming you for these things, just know what company you keep.
By the way, this song blows goats, regardless of its message. |
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Marr
(Houston) | | Posted: Feb 22, 2005 - 12:38 | |
Wow, so much anger over one little song. Having read the lyrics I don't really see what the fuss is all about. I don't think this song is as much about religion as people seem to be thinking.
As to those who complain about Margot always sounding mopy I would have to disagree. There are numerous CJ songs where her voice is clearly joyous. Maybe if you listened to more of their albums you'd see what I mean.
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jerseygirl
| | Posted: Feb 22, 2005 - 12:35 | |
RCURRIER:
GET AN INTERIOR LIFE.
Took money from the poor and gave it to the already wealthy. Went around criticizing people for their behavior and telling them to obey the authorities. Worked to prevent gay people from marrying. Made it clear that getting rich was the goal.
What? You were asking about Supply Side Jesus, weren't you?
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g1lgam3sh
(Manchester UK) | | Posted: Feb 22, 2005 - 12:18 | |
madtowner11 wrote:
From virtually ALL of your posts on other songs, TrekHead, I could tell you're an idiot. This nation could have been founded on the premise that the Earth is flat for all I care. Thankfully we've come a long way in 200 years and, due to another wonderful invention of our founding fathers, separation of church and state, not all of us worship invisible superheroes from outer space just because they promised us an eternal afterlife of paradise. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion, so keep your obtuse dogma to yourself.
My god can beat up your god, anyway. And you wanna know what else? The terrorists who flew the planes into those building on 9/11 were NO different than the religious wackos in this country who re-elected the worst president this country has ever seen: Those terrorists believed that by following their man-made set of rules in this life, they would be rewarded in the afterlife with all kinds of good stuff. That also describes an idiot like you.
Forgive me for not being born again: I guess I got it right the FIRST time.
*smirk* |
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Trustocity
(Boston, baby) | | Posted: Feb 14, 2005 - 13:14 | |
madtowner11 wrote:And you wanna know what else? The terrorists who flew the planes into those building on 9/11 were NO different than the religious wackos in this country who re-elected the worst president this country has ever seen: Those terrorists believed that by following their man-made set of rules in this life, they would be rewarded in the afterlife with all kinds of good stuff.
You don't really... I mean... you don't REALLY think you can talk this way and be taken seriously as a sane alternative to what you call wacko? I mean, can you? SERIOUSLY? Really???
You're delusional. Set aside the validity of your opinions; I'm just talking about the words that are coming out of your mouth. You're just... I mean... wow, that's so dumb. Every Christian reading your rant is saying, "Y'know, sometimes I feel like I might be nuts, but at least I'm not as nuts as THIS ass, so maybe Christianity is for real." So on that front, thanks, but otherwise, wow. |
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BluEyes
(85 miles from Paradise) | | Posted: Feb 07, 2005 - 18:47 | |
Irony, oh irony, upon me...it's never lost.
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bubble_headed_beach_blond
(within you without you) | | Posted: Jan 30, 2005 - 19:42 | |
madtowner11 wrote:
... not all of us worship invisible superheroes from outer space ...
hey, wait a minute ... wasn't superman from outer space? krypton's not exactly in la grange, il., as odd as the ymca is there ... and what about x-man morpho mutant dog people? ok, maybe they're not TECHNICALLY superheroes ... |
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Xeric
(Along the Madison) | | Posted: Jan 29, 2005 - 21:56 | |
I don't have to agree with the lyric's sentiments (it happens in this case that I do not) to still think it's a killer song sung by one of the compelling voices ever recorded. . . .
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resonator
| | Posted: Jan 12, 2005 - 19:36 | |
I think it's about the third time I heard this song (only on RP, of course), and I finally like it. Interesting lyrics. |
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kevbo77
| | Posted: Dec 17, 2004 - 13:24 | |
humans,...so stupid, they worship the messenger instead of the message,..for christ said "God is among us",...."I and the father are one"...an astute observer would realize that Christ was speaking for all of us,...we are all the father, and the kindgom of God is among us for all eternity. There is no separation between us and God,...Jesus realized this, Buddha realized this, Bob Marley realized this,...so now we as a society have to suffer because the original followers of Jesus were not so bright, and didnt understand metaphor, and when you couple that with the hubris, and appetite for power of the catholic church(who actually had a papal vote on christs' divinity), mix it up in a bowl, add a touch of ignorance, fear,intolerance and what do you get? The united states of amnesia. Welcome, check your differing opinions at the door. Oh, and btw this country was not founded as a christian nation, if you dont believe me google "the treaty of tripoli".
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Trustocity
(Boston, baby) | | Posted: Dec 17, 2004 - 12:44 | |
I'm a Christian, I love Jesus, and I love the Cowboy Junkies, and I listen to Rush and Franken, because I'm conflicted and probably a bisexual to boot, who knows, the blood work hasn't come back from the lab. Having said that, the contraversy around this song has nothing to do with the fact that it's damn boring. Sounds like a torch song from a drag bar, amateur singer and all. Yes, we get it, you're smokey and mysterious and deep.
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rcurrier
(San Juan Capistrano, CA) | | Posted: Dec 16, 2004 - 15:25 | |
squarky wrote:What was it that Jesus did for a living?
Took money from the poor and gave it to the already wealthy. Went around criticizing people for their behavior and telling them to obey the authorities. Worked to prevent gay people from marrying. Made it clear that getting rich was the goal.
What? You were asking about Supply Side Jesus, weren't you? |
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Angloray
(cubicle) | | Posted: Dec 16, 2004 - 15:13 | |
RichardPrins wrote:
yep.  |
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madtowner11
| | Posted: Dec 14, 2004 - 08:42 | |
trekhead wrote:
IMPERIAL??? Hey, you are hereby FREE to leave anytime ya like! Good luck finding it THIS good!
Never mind that 'GOD fearing' is what this nation was founded on...
p.s. use your mute button.
From virtually ALL of your posts on other songs, TrekHead, I could tell you're an idiot. This nation could have been founded on the premise that the Earth is flat for all I care. Thankfully we've come a long way in 200 years and, due to another wonderful invention of our founding fathers, separation of church and state, not all of us worship invisible superheroes from outer space just because they promised us an eternal afterlife of paradise. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion, so keep your obtuse dogma to yourself.
My god can beat up your god, anyway. And you wanna know what else? The terrorists who flew the planes into those building on 9/11 were NO different than the religious wackos in this country who re-elected the worst president this country has ever seen: Those terrorists believed that by following their man-made set of rules in this life, they would be rewarded in the afterlife with all kinds of good stuff. That also describes an idiot like you.
Forgive me for not being born again: I guess I got it right the FIRST time. |
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trekhead
| | Posted: Dec 14, 2004 - 07:03 | |
jahiel wrote:Jesus this, Jesus that... As a subject of the Imperial Gawd-Feerin' Nation of America, I am hereby sick and tired of hearing about religion in any context.
But I generally like Cowboy Junkies, so this gets a 4.
IMPERIAL??? Hey, you are hereby FREE to leave anytime ya like! Good luck finding it THIS good!
Never mind that 'GOD fearing' is what this nation was founded on...
p.s. use your mute button. |
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madtowner11
| | Posted: Dec 14, 2004 - 06:52 | |
What a bunch of pretentious tripe. I'm being generous by giving this a 3.
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BooKitty
(My own private Idaho.) | | Posted: Dec 14, 2004 - 06:50 | |
Not a great first thing in the morning song! I put on RP in the am to get into a happier mood and this aint working!
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jahiel
(Echus Overlook) | | Posted: Dec 02, 2004 - 19:14 | |
Jesus this, Jesus that... As a subject of the Imperial Gawd-Feerin' Nation of America, I am hereby sick and tired of hearing about religion in any context.
But I generally like Cowboy Junkies, so this gets a 4.
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Xeric
(Along the Madison) | | Posted: Dec 02, 2004 - 18:57 | |
God, how I love that voice.
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RichardPrins
(earth.ca) | | Posted: Dec 02, 2004 - 18:57 | |
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resonator
| | Posted: Dec 02, 2004 - 18:54 | |
Sounds a lot like their cover of Highway Kind
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