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Artist:James McMurtry [ more ]
Song:Red Dress
Album:James McMurtry & The Heartless Bastards - Live In Aught Three [ info ]
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Last Played:Mar 07, 2006 - 22:29
Avg. Rating:6  (Total Ratings: 116)
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1 votes: 5 (4.3%)2 votes: 7 (6%)3 votes: 10 (8.6%)4 votes: 5 (4.3%)5 votes: 9 (7.8%)6 votes: 20 (17%)7 votes: 26 (22%)8 votes: 27 (23%)9 votes: 5 (4.3%)10 votes: 2 (1.7%)
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moonbat
(Flying Low and Avoiding The Radar)
Posted: Mar 07, 2006 - 22:46 

Nasty bit of courtship banter...I think it's kind of funny.
rKokon
(Colesville, MD)
Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 07:17 

Lyrics to this nicely formatted at a Web site you can connect to from "Lyrics" above:

Remember when we'd get together
Burn the candle don't you know
Smoke and drink and live forever
No one there to tell us no
This time I'm gonna kill that bastard
This time I'm not gonna miss~~this time I'm not gonna miss

This time there ain't no doubt about it
Let me be quite clear on this
Out the back and down the alley
Gone to get your bucket spiked
Come back when you think you need me
Come back any time you like

Where'd you get that red dress
Where'd you get that red dress
Yes I'm drunk but damn you're ugly
Tell you one thing yes I will
Tomorrow morning I'll be sober
You'll be just as ugly still
Where'd you get that red dress

I don't know what you got going on
But you know I never seen you with that red dress on
Tell me where'd you get that red dress
Watching out the kitchen window
Right here in this old brown chair
Stack the empties on the table
Toss 'em down the basement stairs

Where'd you get that red dress
Where'd you get that red dress

Remember when we'd get together
Burn the candle don't you know
Smoke and drink and live forever
No one there to tell us no

Comment on comment on my comment: To call a woman ugly whom the singer is also menacing with possible physical aggression is what I meant by "misogynistic."
This phrase smacks of the control freak, too, and it entails a hinted threat: "But you know I never seen you with that red dress on"--translation: "I will punish you for having any independence or being interested in someone else besides me." If he just called her ugly and left her alone and refrained from commenting on a common past that she might want to forget, she wouldn't be in danger.
My definition of misogynism is speech and actions that treat women as objects, as less than human, as less worthy of respect than men, as the just objects of men's will and ill treatment.
Dorothy Parker may have been acerbic, but the man whom the quip is attributed too went beyond the acrid to the insulting.
Have I made my viewpoint clear enough?
Jack_Jefferson
(Columbus, OH)
Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 07:05 

I recently discovered this guy's music. Could you play his version of 'Out Here in the Middle' or 'We Can't Make it Here anymore'?

His songs really tells it like it is.
karlaanne
(Raleigh, NC)
Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 07:05 

"Yes I'm drunk but damn you're ugly
Tell you one thing yes I will
Tomorrow morning I'll be sober
You'll be just as ugly still "

wasn't that on a t-shirt?

sold right along side the "I may be fat, but you're ugly and i can go on a diet" shirt sold at most fine flea market outlets in the southern united states circa 1980.
meadowwoods
(Madison, WI)
Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 07:05 

perfect song to follow Lucinda Williams' Joy....

they are both terrible...

IMHO, of course!


ChicoCyclist
(Chico, CA)
Posted: Feb 06, 2006 - 14:13 


Saw James and the Bastards on Saturday night. Outstanding show at the Palms Playhouse and when they did this song I remember thinking "Damn, I love this song!".

Question: So calling a woman ugly now means that you're a misogynist? PC-speak at it's finest!

Johng
(San Luis Obispo, CA. Hey I call this paradise too!)
Posted: Feb 06, 2006 - 14:09 

Saw James McMurtry last week here in SLO, he put on a great show. Love his lyrics, nice and cynical.
fishercat
(new hampshire)
Posted: Feb 06, 2006 - 14:04 

This guy is no Winston Churchill, but he does sort of quote him. Overall, he'll be sober in the morning, but his lyrics will still stink.
acidreflucks
(Media PA)
Posted: Jan 08, 2006 - 10:00 

catmaven wrote:
Like the music and instrumentation (I would call it good country blues) . . . but I do abhor the misogynistic lyrics, which seem menacing. I guess that means this piece is a success.


Amen to that, in many ways the song rocks and is clever, but that type of sentiment deserves a requiem not a eulogy...
olsaltybastard
Posted: Nov 25, 2005 - 16:55 

I'm a sucker for sludge rock.
Baby_M
(a 100-year old building in downtown Akron, Ohio)
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:50 

Brad_Eleven wrote:
I'm sorry, but "is" is a superstition. There is no "is". . . .


"That all depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
--William Jefferson Clinton, 1998
Brad_Eleven
(Richmond, TX)
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:38 

sterson wrote:
i'm sorry, but this song sucks.


I'm sorry, but "is" is a superstition. There is no "is". There are your interpretations of reality, which are expressed in language as things that exist--but they really don't exist.

The trap here is that if you see something and think, "That sucks," then later you're likely to forget that you're the one who said it (or agreed with it) and wonder why it has to suck.

Try "I don't like this song." That way, you can take personal responsibility for your opinions.
rKokon
(Colesville, MD)
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:38 

Like the music and instrumentation (I would call it good country blues) . . . but I do abhor the misogynistic lyrics, which seem menacing. I guess that means this piece is a success.
Giverofpain
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:38 

Sounds like someone knocked over the pyramid of beer cans
Deepilina
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:38 

I don't like this song... the lyrics are kinda sicko... ick!
Baby_M
(a 100-year old building in downtown Akron, Ohio)
Posted: Oct 27, 2005 - 11:38 

nuggler wrote:
Who'd ever have thought that a Winston Churchill quote would make it into a hick blues tune? Who'da THUNK it.....?


Gets a +1 on the rating for the Churchill quote.
tony620d
(an office)
Posted: Sep 13, 2005 - 08:28 

willie, if youre going to play country, can this crap give us some waylon jennings or something.
nuggler
(Oz via Good Hope)
Posted: Sep 13, 2005 - 08:24 

Who'd ever have thought that a Winston Churchill quote would make it into a hick blues tune? Who'da THUNK it.....?
sterson
Posted: Sep 13, 2005 - 08:24 

i'm sorry, but this song sucks.
Dave_Mack
(Saratoga, CA)
Posted: Sep 13, 2005 - 08:24 

I saw McMurtry do this song in Saratoga a few weeks ago. He's an impressive performer. The band was a trio; him plus bass and drums. He did a nice job doing rhythm and lead together. The songs were relentlessly downtempo though. We really wanted him to turn the rock-out knob up. He made it to 7 for Choctaw Bingo and a couple others, but this speed seemed to be his comfort zone.
Re
(Davis, CA)
Posted: Sep 13, 2005 - 08:22 

God, I am glad I don't have a red dress.
Daveinbawlmer
(Bawlmer, Merlin. Hon.)
Posted: Jul 30, 2005 - 19:13 


Ass kicker live CD.


nuggler
(Oz via Good Hope)
Posted: Jul 01, 2005 - 07:36 


A Roy Buchanan clone that didn't quite turn out right...


Mikey
(Brain dead in O-HI-O)
Posted: Jul 01, 2005 - 07:35 

Bill Clinton's version is very much the same...'cept it was a blue dress.

/NOT startin' a political flamewar. Just funnin'. Please, have a cigar and relax.
tony99
Posted: May 18, 2005 - 06:24 

porcupinemeat wrote:


Lifted from Winston Churchill:

Woman: "Sir, you are drunk; very, very drunk."
Churchill: "Madame, you are ugly; very, very ugly. I shall be sober in the morning."


not quite

WC: And you madam, are very ugly. In the morning, however, I will be sober whereas you will still be ugly
steeler
(Perched on the precipice of expectation)
Posted: May 18, 2005 - 06:17 

Leslie wrote:
Perfect song to follow Lucinda Williams' "Joy."

Way to go Bill


Exactly what I was thinking. Perfect bookends.
stinkycheese
(Boston!)
Posted: May 03, 2005 - 15:08 

"where'd you get that red dress..."

is he shopping for a red dress for himself, or what?
rascal420
(Truckee, CA - 5000 feet above Paradise)
Posted: May 03, 2005 - 15:04 

big_sb wrote:
Would like to see a stripper dance to this


Or just about anything else. Just about.
Huey
(Netherlands)
Posted: Apr 04, 2005 - 08:22 

Yes....never heard of him....an ear opener
healyf52
Posted: Apr 04, 2005 - 08:02 


Sings better than his dad writes!

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