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Artist:The Jam [ more ]
Song:The Butterfly Collector
Album:The Sound of the Jam [ info ]
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Last Played:Jun 06, 2013 - 20:06
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BBoyes
(Salt Lake City Utah)
Posted: Mar 04, 2013 - 09:19 

Wow, intriguing photo and link. Thanks for posting.
ambrebalte
(Wolxheim (France) - Dreaming about resuming my life in Beijing province)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 11:42 

I couldn't quite get a picture of the woman described in the lyrics. I mean, like yes, it seems to be a groupie, but most of the time groupies, although very invasive, are closer to being victims of their own blindness, and stubbornness. Whereas here, the groupie sounds like a dominatrix, manipulative, collecting and throwing away the object of her brief interest.

Then I turned to the web and found this piece of history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collector

The song "The Butterfly Collector" by The Jam (the B-Side of the 1979 single "Strange Town") was inspired by the book, but the song was in fact about Soo Catwoman, who upon the implosion of the Sex Pistols, attempted to become part of The Jam's entourage. The song states the band's contempt for those obsessed with "collecting" reflected fame from contemporary celebrities as a substitute for living their own lives.
The Butterfly Collector
joelbb
Posted: Dec 16, 2012 - 02:00 

Good segue from Passion Pit:  you found a group as bad or worse with a tune to match.
krysthal
(Toronto, Canada)
Posted: Jul 11, 2012 - 21:26 

 sronis wrote:
garbage did an excellent cover for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7C9Zw8Gjw
 
That video was removed, but it's up at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEFW9MkwX2M
 (Garbage's cover of 'The Butterfly Collector')

aspicer
(Chicago, IL)
Posted: Apr 23, 2012 - 14:02 

Great tune from an influential and amazing band in rock history, just too bad they never did "stick" in the U.S.
WonderLizard
(2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise)
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 - 09:26 

 Dillinquent wrote:
Of course you don't have to be English to 'get' the Jam, but it helps to have grown up with that musical heritage, people like The Beatles, The Who, Small Faces, The Zombies, The Kinks, Bowie, Bolan and the UK punk scene. I'ts also easier for us to relate to the lyrical themes, things like the class system, London, inner city decay, Thatcherism, the winter of discontent, Punk, Mods, Rockers, disaffected youth, the Blitz (we weren't there but our parents were), rationing, miners strikes Etc. - you get the picture.
 
What impresses me in addition to the lyrical acuity is their ability to convey a '60s style/British invasion sensibility. Very cleverly done. Great band.
Stranglersfan
(Revelstoke, B.C.)
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 - 09:16 

We don't hear enough Jam these days.
Love It!
sronis
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 22:58 

garbage did an excellent cover for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7C9Zw8Gjw
Cynaera
(South of Neanderthal)
Posted: Mar 25, 2011 - 10:41 

I hadn't heard this one before, but wow - what lyrics!!!  Paul Weller did a bang-up job - it almost brought me to tears... I'm giving it 8 on first listen... (Today was another day for precedents, because I actually muted "Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega.  Geez, I'm starting to skeer myself...)

So you finally got what you wanted
Youve achieved your aim by making me walk in line
And when you just cant get any higher
You use your senses to suss out this weeks climber
And the small fame that youve acquired
Has brought you into cult status
But to me youre still a collector

Theres tarts and whores but youre much more
Youre a different kind cause you want their minds
And you just dont care cause youve got no pride
Its just a face on your pillowcase
That thrills you

And you started looking much older
And your fashion sense is second rate like your perfume
But to you in your little dream world
Youre still the queen of the butterfly collectors

As you carry on cause its all you know
You cant light a fire
You cant cook or sew
You get from day to day by filling your head
But surely you must know the appeal between your legs
Has worn off

And I dont care about morals
cause the worlds insane and were all to blame anyway
And I dont feel any sorrow
Towards the kings and queens of the butterfly collectors

Theres tarts and whores but youre much more
Youre a different kind cause you want their minds
And you just dont care cause youve got no pride
Its just a face on your pillowcase
That thrills you

As you carry on cause its all you know
You cant light a fire
You cant cook or sew
You get from day to day by filling your head
But surely you must know the appeal between your legs
Has worn off

And I dont feel any sorrow
Towards the kings and queens of the butterfly collectors


ziakut
(A place with air, water and chocolate.)
Posted: Dec 21, 2010 - 08:13 

I like the doubled vocal sound...works here.
treatment_bound
(Duluth to Madison)
Posted: Nov 10, 2010 - 09:34 

 Stranglersfan wrote:

If memory serves I think it was on a double LP called,"Snap"
Terrific track

 
Nice Shot, Stranglersfan!  Here's the original track listing on the double-vinyl Snap! album:


Disc 1
  1. "In the City"
  2. "Away from the Numbers"
  3. "All Around the World"
  4. "The Modern World" (Single Version)
  5. "News of the World"
  6. "Billy Hunt"
  7. "English Rose"
  8. "Mr. Clean"
  9. "David Watts" (Single Mix)
  10. "'A' Bomb in Wardour Street" (Single Version)
  11. "Down in the Tube Station at Midnight" (Single Edit)
  12. "Strange Town"
  13. "The Butterfly Collector"
  14. "When You're Young"
  15. "Smithers-Jones" (Single Version)
  16. "Thick as Thieves"

Disc 2

  1. "The Eton Rifles" (Single Edit)
  2. "Going Underground"
  3. "Dreams of Children" (US Edit)
  4. "That's Entertainment" (Demo Version)
  5. "Start!" (Single Version)
  6. "Man in the Cornershop"
  7. "Funeral Pyre" (Remixed Version)
  8. "Absolute Beginners"
  9. "Tales from the Riverbank"
  10. "Town Called Malice"
  11. "Precious" (Single Edit)
  12. "The Bitterest Pill (I Ever Had to Swallow)"
  13. "Beat Surrender"


Stranglersfan
(Revelstoke, B.C.)
Posted: Nov 03, 2010 - 18:40 

 Dillinquent wrote: 
Great to hear this one, I think it must be the first time I've ever heard it on any sort of broadcast medium. It wasn't on any of the albums and only released on what Weller called a double A-side single with Strange Town on the other side. Of course Strange Town got all the airplay.

Of course you don't have to be English to 'get' the Jam, but it helps to have grown up with that musical heritage, people like The Beatles, The Who, Small Faces, The Zombies, The Kinks, Bowie, Bolan and the UK punk scene. I'ts also easier for us to relate to the lyrical themes, things like the class system, London, inner city decay, Thatcherism, the winter of discontent, Punk, Mods, Rockers, disaffected youth, the Blitz (we weren't there but our parents were), rationing, miners strikes Etc. - you get the picture.

Anyway thanks for playing that, hows about playing Liza Radley some time please Bill.

 
If memory serves I think it was on a double LP called,"Snap"
Terrific track

Stranglersfan
(Revelstoke, B.C.)
Posted: Nov 03, 2010 - 18:37 

I wish The Jam never broke up.
"I don't care about Morales cuz the world's insane and were all to blame anyway"
I love Weller's writing in those days
MojoJojo
(Indianapolis, IN USA)
Posted: Nov 03, 2010 - 18:36 

 tipper wrote:
You needed to be there.
 
I'm gonna have to take your word on that.
treatment_bound
(Duluth to Madison)
Posted: Oct 08, 2010 - 13:54 

I always wanted a hyphen in my last name.


tipper
Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 06:45 

You needed to be there.
VioletBuddha
(Mill Valley, CA)
Posted: May 28, 2010 - 10:49 

Very nice!  I'm not very familiar with The Jam - initially I thought it was Moody Blues!

{#Bananajam}  {#Dancingbanana}

jools
(Brighton UK)
Posted: May 28, 2010 - 10:40 

 januismer wrote:
I thought the English lost the "accent" when they sang??? 

Cool tune!
 
Not this lot mate!!!
gshrieves
(Colorado, USA)
Posted: May 28, 2010 - 10:40 

 januismer wrote:
I thought the English lost the "accent" when they sang??? 

Cool tune!
 
Geez, ever heard Billy Bragg sing? {#Lol} Anyway, love the Jam. This isn't my favorite (that would be "Start") but I'm a Paul Weller fan. 

raerae333
(Jacksonville, FL)
Posted: May 28, 2010 - 10:39 

i prefer the super sexy Garbage cover of this.....but I'm glad I get to hear the original here to have a comparison point :)
januismer
(SW Michigan)
Posted: May 12, 2010 - 16:08 

I thought the English lost the "accent" when they sang??? 

Cool tune!
kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Mar 10, 2010 - 14:58 

 horstman wrote:
The Jam is another one of the cooler, vibrant punk/post punk bands that I loved as a young man. I am now turning my son (12 yrs old) onto this band. He already digs the Clash, Sex Pistols, and is currently asking about all things Led Zeppelin. Kids can definitely get their good tastes from their parents. Let' hope it continues as a teenager!
 
And remember too those parents probably got their good taste from their parents!  I'm convinced my eclectic tastes are from a mother who listened to everything from jazz of all types, blues, opera (which I hated!) and popular music and my dad liked country (which I also hated!) and the big bands of the 30's and 40's.

I like this piece more with every listen - I like the distortion of the guitar and the lyrics are good too!

Felix_The_Cat
(Buenos Aires, Argentina)
Posted: Mar 10, 2010 - 07:33 

Dang!! Bill got stuck with a horrid 80's set!!! {#Fire}
thewiseking
(New York, New York)
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 - 13:20 

the amateurishness and lack of musical and vocal prowess of this act was not an issue when there were strong propulsive power chords out in front.
on this one, it is all laid bare.
Dillinquent
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 - 03:37 

Great to hear this one, I think it must be the first time I've ever heard it on any sort of broadcast medium. It wasn't on any of the albums and only released on what Weller called a double A-side single with Strange Town on the other side. Of course Strange Town got all the airplay.

Of course you don't have to be English to 'get' the Jam, but it helps to have grown up with that musical heritage, people like The Beatles, The Who, Small Faces, The Zombies, The Kinks, Bowie, Bolan and the UK punk scene. I'ts also easier for us to relate to the lyrical themes, things like the class system, London, inner city decay, Thatcherism, the winter of discontent, Punk, Mods, Rockers, disaffected youth, the Blitz (we weren't there but our parents were), rationing, miners strikes Etc. - you get the picture.

Anyway thanks for playing that, hows about playing Liza Radley some time please Bill.

sub-arctic
(63°50' N)
Posted: Jan 22, 2010 - 03:10 

 Jungle_Jim wrote:
Do you have to be English to get The Jam and Paul Weller?
 
Definitely not! I've loved them from day one and I'm not English. Very happy to hear Bill play this song (one of my favourite songs by The Jam).

SweTex
(Swede living in Texas)
Posted: Jan 06, 2010 - 08:35 

 peter_james_bond wrote:

{#High-five} I agree, it's called Quality. Anybody out there read 'Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance'? I love that book. We should all strive to produce quality work, just like The Jam and Bill Goldsmith.

 
Yep, it's a great read.

kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Nov 20, 2009 - 16:20 

I'd never heard this piece until listening to RP, even though the Jam were popular on the FM radio station I tuned into in the early '80's.  Very intriguing.
Skorokoro
(Jurmala, Latvia)
Posted: Nov 20, 2009 - 07:07 

Thanks a million for this one! {#Propeller}
peter_james_bond
(Lunenburg, NS)
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 14:46 

 SweTex wrote:
Outstanding, like almost everything The Jam released.
 
{#High-five} I agree, it's called Quality. Anybody out there read 'Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance'? I love that book. We should all strive to produce quality work, just like The Jam and Bill Goldsmith.

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