Always loved this album. I remember the day I carried it home and spun it for the first time. Love at first listen. May be overated but so is my wife and I still love her? Happy Mother's Day?

Always loved this album. I remember the day I carried it home and spun it for the first time. Love at first listen. May be overated but so is my wife and I still love her? Happy Mother's Day?

 I'm with you on the 'grossly over-rated' comment but you are clearly extracting the urine with the Jilted John ref. Mind you, I had recently been dumped by a girl called Julie when that was out.
Clash, some great rock tunes but just dont get the hero worship for the artist formerly known as 'Woody Mellor'. As for all that cod reggae and really bad (C)rapping, leave it out guvnor.

Thin_Air wrote: 

actually thought this was a cover version. me no likey but Jimmy Cliff is very good.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: 
Sandinista... it's tacked on at the end of "Broadway" where she says "that's enough now... I'm tired of singing." 

 oldsaxon wrote: 

Well, see there, you just said why we need guns in the USA.  We don't live in a civilized society.  And what civilization there is is just a thin veneer masking a lawlessness held in check by the most tenuous restraint.

 I love of the version sung by kids, where she says at the end,

"that's enough singing now"... hell, where was that?

 oldsaxon wrote: 
The UK faction are all in agreement! .... except I'd say 'very gratuitous'!

 tonypf wrote: 

I hope the bear has a large tongue, so I can eat it.  Bears do walk into houses looking for food fairly often up here.  They usually don't use the door, and they never go out the same way they came in.

Incredible, Amazing, Monstrous

 flyboy wrote: 
Well said fb (if, of course, your bear has a large tongue in cheek)..

 oldsaxon wrote: 
Agreed oldsaxon. Whenever I read this kind off stuff from US americans it reminds me of Obelix and his assertion "These Romans are crazy".

 Thin_Air wrote: 

RU Freaking kidding me.  "more akin to light pop music" WTF

As Lester Bangs said at the time - the only band that matters.

You clearly don't own most of their catalog.

Grossly overrated band - naff songs - more akin to light pop music (where's the anger?).

That said if you're voting for them on the basis of their social impact then ok give them a 5 but there were loads of other bans around at the time who said so much more and angrily at that.

Jilted John - now there was a musician with a statement to make.

Jimmy Cliff's version is the BEST!

 jpfueler wrote: 
Amen

 neuticle wrote: 
No, neut. Try another thought instead of repeating it on different people. 

 hencini wrote: 
Ditto that.

 jpfueler wrote: 
Your statistics are wrong. Check out gun crime related numbers from either Canada or the UK and then check out America.

In a society of civilized people, armed citizens seem a bit gratuitous. There are police, armies, you know...well trained, well equipped, and hopefully not drunk or angry, people who can carry the guns, don't you think? How often has a "meth making slimeball" entered your home? How often have you shot your weapon at a soda tin or a silhouette of a person? Why do you really want the gun?

I'd hate to live in America. It seems the place is swarming with violent, drug crazed animals that want nothing more than to destroy personal property. At least that's the message I get from those in the US waving their right to bear arms. 

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Short attention span person #2

 kcar wrote: 
Maybe you have a short attention span..

 jpfueler wrote: 
I think you need to compare and understand the amount of gun related violence in the UK against the USA before you start spouting off old chap. Very different places, very different attitudes. Anyway, have you ever been the UK? Europe even?

Timeless song. Sadly still very relevant :(

 jpfueler wrote: 
Not to mention the occasional bear that comes crashing through the door looking for food.

 Stropatus wrote: 
Never ever trust a gov't that does not trust you to be armed. The UK has all but banned firearms of any sort and really has not reduced crime or even gun crime all that much. The law breakers care less about the law...hence their willingness to break it.

When seconds count the police are just minutes away (or for me at times near a half hour). I'll be happier explaining why the meth making slimeball who tried to get me is bled out on my front step instead of having the police explain to my parents why I was killed by some lowlife.

I cannot handle how good this song is.  

 oldsaxon wrote: 

Great song with loads of relevance today as it had when it was written.
I lived in Brixton in the early 80s so this song brings back some not so pleasant memories

Thanks to oldsaxon for reminding us that guns are not a solution to security

This reminds me of left-wing arguments for gun ownership which I saw on Usenet a while back, a plank of which was that workers need to defend themselves from State and capitalist violence (such as the Pinkertons, back in the early 20th Century, who were paid by employers to physically break strikes). The example most frequently used was of the Black Panthers who, it was said, armed themselves in defence of themselves and their communities against violent racist police forces. I take no view on this as I know little about the BP and don't want to get into a tired (and irrelevant, this side of the Pond) old barney about gun control, but I thought it was interesting that occasionally you get opposition to gun control from the radical Left as well as the barking Right.

The short Wikipedia article on this song is interesting. According to it, the song lyrics "discuss an individual's paranoid outlook on life" and aren't a literal call to arms.

 flyboy wrote: 
It's all about America, isn't it? Why would anyone think I was aiming that AT someone?  I was clear, I thought, that I was glad that *I* am not of the US ilk. Got nothin' against nobody....just hate the idea of guns = security.