lily34 (lexvegas) | | Posted: Sep 04, 2012 - 11:10 | |
RadioDoc wrote: Wizzuvv_oz wrote:there's a fine line between clever and....stupid. And Andrew Bird has whistled way past it. lord, did he ever. |
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Hasan
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Cynaera wrote:Andrew Bird's music is the type that people seem to either love or loathe. I love it,  partly because I usually have to listen to one of his songs at least five times before I can figure out what he's trying to convey, but mostly because his music is so tuneful and quirky. The flip-side of genius is insanity, and Bird's a wobbling genius walking a tightrope without a net. And he can whistle.  Don't love it, don't loathe it, it just doesn't interest me — 5/10 |
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Shesdifferent (Just visiting this planet CAN I GO HOME NOW?) | | Posted: Apr 11, 2011 - 14:25 | |
Cynaera wrote:Andrew Bird's music is the type that people seem to either love or loathe. I love it,  partly because I usually have to listen to one of his songs at least five times before I can figure out what he's trying to convey, but mostly because his music is so tuneful and quirky. The flip-side of genius is insanity, and Bird's a wobbling genius walking a tightrope without a net. And he can whistle.  What she said..... |
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Aud (lost in lakecity) | | Posted: Mar 03, 2011 - 03:40 | |
mindless wrote:Love this song and the album. Surprised it hasn't rated better. Perhaps the songs all sound better in context with the album. Or maybe it'll grow on people, like it did for me.
Or maybe some people don't like whistling in a song.... |
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Rooney (Near Paradise) | | Posted: Oct 15, 2010 - 20:17 | |
I've always enjoyed the lyrics of music. I've always enjoyed hearing composers sing their lyrics. I suppose Andrew Bird can sing his lyrics for some to understand, but so far, he still sounds like he is deliberately throwing a mouthful of mush at me. Now, I suppose I could google all his lyrics...but you know, it's not worth it. If that's his style...(I just shrugged my shoulders)...eh....
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Cynaera (South of Neanderthal) | | Posted: Oct 04, 2010 - 13:09 | |
Andrew Bird's music is the type that people seem to either love or loathe. I love it,  partly because I usually have to listen to one of his songs at least five times before I can figure out what he's trying to convey, but mostly because his music is so tuneful and quirky. The flip-side of genius is insanity, and Bird's a wobbling genius walking a tightrope without a net. And he can whistle.  |
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Stingray (EUROPE) | | Posted: Sep 02, 2010 - 13:05 | |
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Anax (Seattle, WA) | | Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 18:08 | |
ziggytrix wrote:
Maybe you're just being (intentionally?) dense? I'm mean it's certainly not as clear as a bell, but you didn't get that vibe even a little bit?
I bet you're a real treat at modern art exhibits. Yes, we all know your kid could draw that. LOL. |
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mindless (Auckland City, New Zealand) | | Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 01:28 | |
Love this song and the album. Surprised it hasn't rated better. Perhaps the songs all sound better in context with the album. Or maybe it'll grow on people, like it did for me.
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Eric_Denison (British Columbia) | | Posted: Aug 25, 2010 - 11:48 | |
Very nice, and so very much like The Hidden Cameras.
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WayUpNorth (Windswept Exile) | | Posted: Aug 12, 2010 - 06:09 | |
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ziggytrix (Dallas, TX) | | Posted: Aug 01, 2010 - 13:08 | |
liveinthewire wrote: Doesn't really matter what the songwriter says it's about - if the meaning isn't communicated, at some level, by the song, well, then it's not there.
Maybe you're just being (intentionally?) dense? I'm mean it's certainly not as clear as a bell, but you didn't get that vibe even a little bit? I bet you're a real treat at modern art exhibits. Yes, we all know your kid could draw that. |
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Anax (Seattle, WA) | | Posted: Jul 24, 2010 - 12:44 | |
skyguy wrote:http://measureformeasure.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/words-will-tell/ Thanks for the link, and the context. I couldn't make this song out, either. Calcium mines? The article helps. His process seems so abstract, and intuitive at the same time. I've not been a fan of his, but now I like this particular song very much. It's on his MySpace page. |
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Jelani (Home of the freak, land of the vague) | | Posted: Jun 30, 2010 - 15:59 | |
Jelani wrote:Casio Mons? Sorry to reply to my own post, but....Musical pubis? |
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bachbeet
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Not a big fan of Bird's. Though I understand he was quite the basketball player.
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Jelani (Home of the freak, land of the vague) | | Posted: Jun 22, 2010 - 15:00 | |
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marina666
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Love Andrew Bird- thanks Bill
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plaice3
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Love the saw and the whistle ...
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laozilover (Left of Chicago and up) | | Posted: Feb 15, 2010 - 21:00 | |
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littleredhen
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When I first got this rekkid, husband complained constantly (because I played it that much) about 'that Casio mine' song. I told him it was 'calcium mines', which I reckon is a pretty neat lil metaphor for the hardening of the heart, emotionally speaking.
(And once I let him know the song's real title, he stopped griping. But he does whinge 'Oh noooo!' when I play AB...)
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Gatlinburger
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Sorry, this really sucks... The whistling intro is annoying as Hell and just ruins the rest, which would only be a marginally acceptable and cheesy pop radio filler.
What's up with that, Bill?
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RadioDoc (Chicagoland) | | Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 14:44 | |
Wizzuvv_oz wrote:there's a fine line between clever and....stupid.
And Andrew Bird has whistled way past it. |
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namp
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westslope (BC coast) | | Posted: Aug 16, 2009 - 16:24 | |
I think I know what the writer is trying to say but it is a poor misleading use of the term sociopath.
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liveinthewire (The exact center of the universe) | | Posted: Aug 16, 2009 - 16:22 | |
ziggytrix wrote:It's a song about ( according to the songwriter) how we, as adults, do not express our feelings, don't let people see us cry, or see us be afraid. The lyrics aren't completely meaningless, but you are right in that they were chosen as much if not more for textural reasons than for literal meaning. But there is some meaning in there, even if it isn't clear. Doesn't really matter what the songwriter says it's about - if the meaning isn't communicated, at some level, by the song, well, then it's not there. |
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snowcat (Cold, Frozen Minnesota) | | Posted: Aug 16, 2009 - 16:20 | |
Cue the bearded guy with messy hair in a hemp sweater as he gets into his VW with a girl way too pretty to be his girlfriend in real life.
Fade out as they drive away.
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Wizzuvvoz (Land of Nod. East of Eden on Route 66.) | | Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 10:36 | |
ziggytrix wrote:It's a song about ( according to the songwriter) how we, as adults, do not express our feelings, don't let people see us cry, or see us be afraid. The lyrics aren't completely meaningless, but you are right in that they were chosen as much if not more for textural reasons than for literal meaning. But there is some meaning in there, even if it isn't clear. yeah, that comes through (approximately). It's just the jumbled imagery and self-conscious/ultra-"clever" lyrics that bother me. Like I say, I really don't listen much to lyrics unless they are fanned out like a peacock's tail for all to admire. The tunes are effortless and beautiful. I just wish he would sort of leave it at that. Or maybe bounce the lyrics off his wife or girlfriend or roommate or whatever. For the record, I did upload a song from this very album. It had the most awesome lyrics. ;-) ed: some examples of nonsens lyrics that I like a lot: "...crab-a-locker fishwife, pornographic priestess...", or "...the hands of a government man...", or the thoroughly unintelligible lyrics of "Radio Free Europe". Because they are obviously there for the way they sound. And they sound good I think. |
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ziggytrix (Dallas, TX) | | Posted: Aug 07, 2009 - 10:41 | |
Wizzuvv_oz wrote:My theory is that he does all the whistling because he "struggles" with lyrics (trying to be diplomatic). Don't get me wrong. I have this album and dig it _a lot_, with respect to the music. Quite amazing tunes, really. I listen to it often. I gave this song an 8.
But those are some questionable lyrics (as near as I can tell). I think "cryptic" doesn't do it justice. I mean seriously, there's a fine line between clever and....stupid. Same with his first album. I generally don't listen much to lyrics, but hearing "sociopaths" over and over (and over) prompted me to investigate and then ask myself "WTF?". Don't even get me started on "Nomenclature". One might argue that the words are only there because he likes the sound of them. Michael Stipe, David Byrne and (many) others have taken that approach successfully (IMO). But the wacky words that AB uses (and invents) are just grating to me. I used to dislike the whistling but I am rethinking that position. Just my opinion.
It's a song about ( according to the songwriter) how we, as adults, do not express our feelings, don't let people see us cry, or see us be afraid. The lyrics aren't completely meaningless, but you are right in that they were chosen as much if not more for textural reasons than for literal meaning. But there is some meaning in there, even if it isn't clear. |
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skyguy (CO) | | Posted: Aug 07, 2009 - 10:31 | |
http://measureformeasure.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/words-will-tell/
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TheKing2 (outside the USofA) | | Posted: Jul 26, 2009 - 04:16 | |
Wizzuvv_oz wrote:(...) But those are some questionable lyrics (as near as I can tell). I think "cryptic" doesn't do it justice. (...)
so what are the "calcium mines" in your opinion? |
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