Lazarus (Bethany) | | Posted: May 18, 2013 - 20:24 | |
PeeBee wrote:Elvis at his best! Elvis Presley is my biological father!But this is a really good song by Elvis Costello...
Joshua 10: 24
And it came to pass, when they brought out those kings unto Joshua, that Joshua called for all the men of Israel, and said unto the captains of the men of war which went with him, Come near, put your feet upon the necks of these kings. And they came near, and put their feet upon the necks of them. |
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Gregoria
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kingart wrote: Wow. That's some anecdote for a guy who made a lot of his reputation on What's So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding. Was he drunk or stoned, or is he / was he a world-class shithead? The story is that Costello was really drunk. Also, he had the whole "angry young man" thing going on back then. Supposedly, there had been some competition between the Costello & Attractions crowd and the Steven Stills & Bonnie Bramlett crowd over some girl at the bar. The story is that Costello was trying to rile up the Stills crowd, so he said the most inflammatory thing he could think of. When you listen to his work, which includes some pointedly political songs that leave no doubt about which side of the aisle he's on, then it's difficult to think that Costello is a racist. But I can believe that a British guy in his mid-20's a few thousand miles from home was drunk and trying to piss off some old folk-rocker by saying something he didn't mean and later regretted. That doesn't mean that he's not a world-class shithead, but he's certainly not the only shithead in the music industry. |
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spigolli (Peachtree City, GA, USA) | | Posted: Oct 18, 2012 - 11:02 | |
kaybee wrote:This is fantastic! Surprised it's got such a low rating. But I've noticed that people at RP either love or hate Elvis Costello.
This is Elvis Costello?? I need to go lower my rating. |
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kingart (Brooklyn NY) | | Posted: Oct 18, 2012 - 11:02 | |
WonderLizard wrote: He invites both. There's the famous 1979 incident at a Holiday Inn in Columbus, during which his band and Stephen Stills's band traded insults and ultimately blows. Costello called Ray Charles "a blind, ignorant n****r," whereupon Bonnie Bramlett, bless her heart, promptly decked him. Once the story hit the papers, even though Charles himself shrugged it off, Costello was through in the US as a major act. That's one reason to hate him.
Then there are songs like this one.
I deplore his racism—just as prevalent across the pond (c.f., John Terry), but no more acceptable than here—but admire him as a songwriter, producer, and performer. And he seems to have redeemed himself enough to have had his own show, "Spectacle," on the Sundance Channel from 2008-10. Pretty good show, too. Wow. That's some anecdote for a guy who made a lot of his reputation on What's So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding. Was he drunk or stoned, or is he / was he a world-class shithead? |
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WonderLizard (2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise) | | Posted: Oct 11, 2012 - 06:53 | |
kaybee wrote:This is fantastic! Surprised it's got such a low rating. But I've noticed that people at RP either love or hate Elvis Costello. He invites both. There's the famous 1979 incident at a Holiday Inn in Columbus, during which his band and Stephen Stills's band traded insults and ultimately blows. Costello called Ray Charles "a blind, ignorant n****r," whereupon Bonnie Bramlett, bless her heart, promptly decked him. Once the story hit the papers, even though Charles himself shrugged it off, Costello was through in the US as a major act. That's one reason to hate him. Then there are songs like this one. I deplore his racism—just as prevalent across the pond (c.f., John Terry), but no more acceptable than here—but admire him as a songwriter, producer, and performer. And he seems to have redeemed himself enough to have had his own show, "Spectacle," on the Sundance Channel from 2008-10. Pretty good show, too. |
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ick (...out of the primordial ooze) | | Posted: Oct 11, 2012 - 06:37 | |
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cShaggy (..in the general vicinity..) | | Posted: Sep 25, 2012 - 05:33 | |
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rdo (DC) | | Posted: Apr 20, 2012 - 08:02 | |
ch83575 wrote: I am sticking to my guns on this one... just look at the album cover and album title! Now, I am not saying that I don't feel ripped off by the government, but it probably isn't the best idea to get into that here. Point of the story: I absolutely would put Elvis in your short list. He is anything but apolitical. I like your comment. But I wanted to address something you wrote here that I do not agree with. Since your comment a year ago, there have been 9 other comments on the song of the fairly ordinary variety of song comment filler. So, there is certainly no issue with running out of page space. There is infinite page space, actually. People can always skip long posts they don't want to read. Why is it not best to talk about EC's impact on society? I would welcome it. Don't worry about the peanut gallery. There is a legion of commenters out there, usually just passing through, who love to take pot shots at anyone trying to contribute thoughtful comments. Just ignore them. |
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Propayne (Richmond VA) | | Posted: Mar 11, 2012 - 05:31 | |
linden wrote:"And even though we ain't got money, I'm so in love with you honey ..." Oh, wait.
"And even though you ain't my honey, I'm so in love with your money"... |
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meinthecorner (Past the gravy, far beyond the golden fries) | | Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 22:51 | |
kaybee wrote:This is fantastic! Surprised it's got such a low rating. But I've noticed that people at RP either love or hate Elvis Costello.
Yeah! I'm loving this, too. My first listen. Who says Elvis can't sing!? Whoop! Here come the daggers... btw - Hello, fellow Torontonian! |
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linden (Santa Cruz, CA) | | Posted: Mar 03, 2012 - 22:45 | |
"And even though we ain't got money, I'm so in love with you honey ..." Oh, wait.
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kingart (Brooklyn NY) | | Posted: Feb 08, 2012 - 11:21 | |
I've never heard this before. Great song. Food for thought.
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KevH (Maryland) | | Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 06:21 | |
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frank-peter (Siegen / Germany) | | Posted: Jan 07, 2012 - 16:25 | |
Every human must "love" him! Everybody can think about his lyrics! If I can, why do you not? I'm a christian from germany, I wonder that you don't see the message in his songs!
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kaybee (Lost in the Wilds of Toronto) | | Posted: Jan 07, 2012 - 16:19 | |
This is fantastic! Surprised it's got such a low rating. But I've noticed that people at RP either love or hate Elvis Costello.
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anotherlistener (outside Bawlmer) | | Posted: Sep 27, 2011 - 10:32 | |
Bump this up another notch with each listen. Started at five and now an eight. Like this Costello fellow.
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lshinkawa (Berkeley, CA) | | Posted: Sep 11, 2011 - 14:55 | |
never get tired of Elvis Costello
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Boz
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Reminds me his album "Spike". One thing about EC he's never boring.
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ch83575
| | Posted: Jul 19, 2011 - 10:44 | |
lemmoth wrote:
His politics????
Have seen him dozens of times, and he is hardly political. Yes -he is - if you read interviews, or interpret an occasional song or two - literally 5 or 6 over his entire career - a liberal - as are the vast majority of musicians and artists.
But he is not Bono, or Bruce, or even Eddie Vedder when it comes to his shows. I am sticking to my guns on this one... just look at the album cover and album title! Now, I am not saying that I don't feel ripped off by the government, but it probably isn't the best idea to get into that here. Point of the story: I absolutely would put Elvis in your short list. He is anything but apolitical. |
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Businessgypsy (Deepest, Darkest Florida) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 15:32 | |
Jelani wrote:Is that a Vera Bradley bag the wolf has there?
Illustration by Tony Millionaire, the guy behind the Maakies weekly strip and the SockMonkey graphic novels. Not much of a label-follower, from reading his blog, but probably a collective memory of what a carpetbag should look like. |
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Byronape (Snorkeling in the River Styx) | | Posted: May 31, 2011 - 20:16 | |
ch83575 wrote:I am horribly torn: I love Elvis' music, but I hate his politics. He puts on a great show, studded with political commentary so inane it made me want to throw my drink at him. Like I said... im torn.
I have the exact opposite problem. I can't stand his music, but like his politics. I get that he is hugely influential and has a massive library of "classics", but there is some quality to his voice and music that I just can't get into. |
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rdo (DC) | | Posted: May 24, 2011 - 12:59 | |
beezoo wrote:It seems there is a significant percentage of music listeners that have a decidedly anti-Elvis Costello bent. I have never understood this, especially with the large library of wonderful contributions he has made to contemporary music over the decades. I am also sure that many of the artists and song writers that these same people do enjoy would list Elvis as, if not an influence, someone who has certainly been on their own playlists. If anyone has an explanation for this weirdness I would love to hear it.  This latest CD really is getting hammered here, true. In general his ratings are what you would expect for someone of his stature. |
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lemmoth (NYC) | | Posted: May 24, 2011 - 12:59 | |
ch83575 wrote:I am horribly torn: I love Elvis' music, but I hate his politics. He puts on a great show, studded with political commentary so inane it made me want to throw my drink at him. Like I said... im torn.
His politics???? Have seen him dozens of times, and he is hardly political. Yes -he is - if you read interviews, or interpret an occasional song or two - literally 5 or 6 over his entire career - a liberal - as are the vast majority of musicians and artists. But he is not Bono, or Bruce, or even Eddie Vedder when it comes to his shows. |
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lemmoth (NYC) | | Posted: May 24, 2011 - 12:56 | |
Saw Elvis last night with his giant wheel, the Imposters and lots of diverse tunes and friends.
He is truly a musical treasure.
This song is good too.
If you like the rockers, try the recent Momofuku - some great ones there - like Stella Hurt and Turpentine.
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annieb63 (Boston) | | Posted: May 08, 2011 - 15:07 | |
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bluedot (Long Beach, CA) | | Posted: Apr 22, 2011 - 23:43 | |
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ch83575
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I am horribly torn: I love Elvis' music, but I hate his politics. He puts on a great show, studded with political commentary so inane it made me want to throw my drink at him. Like I said... im torn.
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Jelani (Home of the freak, land of the vague) | | Posted: Apr 11, 2011 - 11:26 | |
Is that a Vera Bradley bag the wolf has there?
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CoYoT51 (Lima, PerĂº) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 10:31 | |
We're very very far from Chelsea, here... but the guy can sing, for sure. He is a real artist... great one.
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Chi_Guy (Chicago) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 10:18 | |
Huge, longtime Elvis Fan. He's long been the only Elvis that counts. Saw him in solo concert this year, he was GREAT, That said, this song is merely good 6 (& 1/2 maybe?).  . Sorry |
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