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Artist:New Model Army [ more ]
Song:Vagabonds
Album:Thunder And Consolation [ info ]
Released:1989
Last Played:May 24, 2013 - 23:57
Avg. Rating:6.8  (Total Ratings: 244)
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oceansurf
Posted: Apr 18, 2013 - 10:34 

Yes!  More NMA ;)  Takes me back...
Traum
Posted: Mar 18, 2013 - 00:28 

Finally know the artist and title of this track - been hearing it around for years! Thanks Bill :)
Dav3thedog
Posted: Mar 17, 2013 - 23:34 

Love their sound!
ckcotton
(Adding snarky comments since 2007)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 18:13 

not good..... Nor nostalgic
Antigone
(A house, in a Virginian Valley)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 18:12 

I wish I'd heard this in 1989 ... love it now, would have loved it then.
ltbluesoda
Posted: Jan 14, 2013 - 06:47 

RP playing New Model Army!!! Great pull Bill. This entire album is incredible and one of my top 10 of all time.
BibKiller
Posted: Nov 12, 2012 - 13:45 

Love hearing this tune.  NMA have a special place in my heart.  They have, of course, a HUGE discography.  I would love to hear more.  Small Town England for example.
sbegf
(Manchester, Maryland)
Posted: Oct 17, 2012 - 08:37 

Always find myself turning up the end of this song.... 
fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 07:51 

 siskinbob wrote:
It takes only a short period of time for these people to move in yet it costs ordinary folks thousands of pounds and many man hours of effort to get these people removed and to repair the damage they caused.

The police are only involved when the proper legal instruments are in place. The police do not, in most cases, initiate the violence but they do respond in kind.
 
I don't want to get into a long barney about the rights and wrongs of travellers and encampments, as that would go on for years without any resolution. (I can remember such barneys from my childhood in Ireland, 40 years ago, when 'tinkers' were folk devils.) This song is plainly about the 'peace convoys' of the 80s which were ruthlessly suppressed by coppers, culminating in the infamous Battle of the Beanfield where without question the cops initiated the aggro, beating convoy members indiscriminately, confiscating vehicles and generally acting like terrorists. As was the point - following that 'battle', and the anti-convoy laws passed by the Tories in its aftermath, such convoys and encampments disappeared, to be replaced by the rave scene. This was well documented in a recent BBC4 documentary "Festivals Britannia" which included graphic film footage of cops beating the shit out of folk. You probably figure they deserved it - I couldn't comment - but they sure as hell didn't start it.

The irony is that the convoys were a good refuge for the homeless and the damaged, who otherwise would be hanging about sink estates and being anti-social and bothering the good burghers of the town who wail and gnash their teeth at the 'underclass'. Now, if you're on the dole or homeless or mentally ill you have, quite literally, nowhere to go. But hey, it's a free country, right?
Muffy
(UK)
Posted: Aug 10, 2012 - 04:54 

 Mosay wrote:
I know little of New Model Army, except that they are musical cousins of my favourite band, the Levellers...

Not surprised I like them!
 
Back before time began Justin Sullivan (NMA's frontman) used to tour under the name "Slade the Leveller". If you ask a random NMA fan they will probably relate a story about how he had something to do with helping the Levellers get started.

I have no idea if this is true or not.
siskinbob
(United Kingdom)
Posted: May 07, 2012 - 05:16 

 TerryS wrote:


Having lived with Gypsy encampment 500 yards from my front door for years, there were certain reasons for the police not to want them around. Not that anything excuses the excesses, but they did spring from that reality.
 
Folks I know were on the direct receiving end of the misuse, disrespect and destruction that these so called "travellers" perpetrate. It isn't the police that don't want them around its the ordinary people that suffer as a result of their presence. My friends had business premises broken into and trashed because these so called travellers wanted access to water. They trashed car parks leaving both human and animal excrement and broken glass and general garbage all over the area. Their presence in the car parks was a deterrent to the use by customers so trade was impacted.

It takes only a short period of time for these people to move in yet it costs ordinary folks thousands of pounds and many man hours of effort to get these people removed and to repair the damage they caused.

The police are only involved when the proper legal instruments are in place. The police do not, in most cases, initiate the violence but they do respond in kind.
ncollingridge
(Knebworth, UK)
Posted: May 07, 2012 - 05:06 

 TerryS wrote:


Having lived with Gypsy encampment 500 yards from my front door for years, there were certain reasons for the police not to want them around. Not that anything excuses the excesses, but they did spring from that reality.
 



Yes, there is a tragically large disparity between the romantic image of the traveller lifestyle and its tawdry actuality.
Boy_Wonder
(Bath, back in the UK)
Posted: May 07, 2012 - 05:02 

We follow the taillights out of the city 
Moving in a river of red
As the colours fade away from the dusky sunset
We roll for the darkness ahead 

Chorus:
We are old, we are young, we are in this together
Vagabonds and children, prisoners forever
With pulses a-raging and eyes full of wonder
Kicking out behind us again 

Night-time City Beat the radio is calling
The lost and lonely in vain
Out here we are running for the wide open spaces
The road-smell after the rain 

Chorus:
We are old, we are young, we are in this together
Vagabonds and children, prisoners forever
With pulses a-raging and eyes full of wonder
Kicking out behind us again 

And watching as a boy alone at the quayside
The ships loading cargo in the night
Their names all calling to faraway places
The years go past, the miles go by
And still this childhood romance will not die
Stingray
("ANONYMOUS INTERNET")
Posted: May 07, 2012 - 05:00 

Another band without the (full) success they had deserved!
Boy_Wonder
(Bath, back in the UK)
Posted: May 07, 2012 - 05:00 

 scoote wrote:
Blimey... Good call Bob. What a blast from the past. Great band with something to say...
 
My thoughts exactly!!
TerryS
(Another SW)
Posted: Mar 04, 2012 - 19:41 

 fredriley wrote:
This is very likely about what the media called, disparagingly, 'new age travellers' back in the 80s. The cops actively repressed traveller convoys in the late 80s, the apotheosis being the brutal 'battle of the beanfield' where peaceful travellers had seven shades of sh1t beaten out of them by the cops. The Thatcher regime shortly afterwards passed laws effectively banning travelling convoys.
 

Having lived with Gypsy encampment 500 yards from my front door for years, there were certain reasons for the police not to want them around. Not that anything excuses the excesses, but they did spring from that reality.
fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Feb 07, 2012 - 09:13 

This is very likely about what the media called, disparagingly, 'new age travellers' back in the 80s. The cops actively repressed traveller convoys in the late 80s, the apotheosis being the brutal 'battle of the beanfield' where peaceful travellers had seven shades of sh1t beaten out of them by the cops. The Thatcher regime shortly afterwards passed laws effectively banning travelling convoys.
hbs47
(SE England)
Posted: Nov 30, 2011 - 14:47 

I have bought this album ,but have played it very little, perhaps an airing tomorrow.

MiracleDrug
(Earth)
Posted: Sep 28, 2011 - 06:48 

that HEY!!!!! was a real good indicator to his bandmates that the noodling intro was over...  {#Lol}
fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Sep 28, 2011 - 06:47 

 Mosay wrote:
I know little of New Model Army, except that they are musical cousins of my favourite band, the Levellers...

Not surprised I like them!
 
Historical cousins too, if you know your history of the English Civil War. Politically they share a lot of space with the Levellers, and musically they're in the 'folk rock' space, but they're a feck of a sight angrier (and the Levellers are pretty angry).

scruffystevie
(Sunny Brighton, England)
Posted: Sep 28, 2011 - 06:47 

BLIMEY!  Takes me back to a former life as a dungaree wearing dreadlocked crusty!
Stingray
(JULIAN - no NWO)
Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 12:02 

REAL DYNAMITE AS A LIVE BAND!!
scoote
Posted: Jul 01, 2011 - 09:25 

Blimey... Good call Bob. What a blast from the past. Great band with something to say...
actusreus
Posted: Jul 01, 2011 - 09:22 

Simply fun stuff
mandolin
(...drifting...)
Posted: May 25, 2011 - 09:11 

...reminds me much of show of hands' roots...
lingchih
(Irving, Texas)
Posted: May 25, 2011 - 09:09 

Weird. I don't remember these guys at all... and they were right in my wheelhouse for that time. Nice track.
Mosay
(England)
Posted: May 25, 2011 - 09:07 

I know little of New Model Army, except that they are musical cousins of my favourite band, the Levellers...

Not surprised I like them!
JH_Junior
(São Paulo Brazil)
Posted: Apr 23, 2011 - 19:55 

good for the ears....  i like a lot!        {#Cool}
TerryS
(The other SW)
Posted: Apr 23, 2011 - 19:51 

 Hannio wrote:
Thunder and Constipation.  Reminds me of the old graffito about paying a nickel and only farting.

 
Broken hearted, are you?
firerytrigon
(Here, there and everywhere.)
Posted: Mar 28, 2011 - 14:12 

Excellent track, but 225 is the best on the album. Most pertinent to our time.
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