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Artist:Dave Matthews Band [ more ]
Song:Crush
Album:Before These Crowded Streets [ info ]
Released:1998
Last Played:Sep 24, 2008 - 09:39
Avg. Rating:6.2  (Total Ratings: 221)
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sfListener
Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 21:23 

realsleep wrote:

What a deflate from Neko Case. This is from the period where Dave Matthews Band got windy, slow, cumbersome, and boring. They sound like they are just jamming, and that is not usually a good thing. Bands sitting around jamming might be greatly entertaining to themselves (I can see them smiling and laughing at someone finding a nice new improved riff) but to the audience, it is like being left out of some really great in-joke that only the band can enjoy (because you had to be there all those thousands of times they were playing this to understand why such and such flute is so damn great.) Jamming is often just an excuse to wander aimlessly in musical space without really doing anything.

This song, for example, is not particularly coherent— the mood is all over the place, the theme is sloppy, lyrically it is pretty bland, and the music doesn't flow particularly smoothly or sensically from one bit to another.

I hope this is a thoughtful enough criticism. Sometimes it is hard to pinpoint why something stinks, but it is useful to attempt it.


Formless, you forgot formless!


k8ling1114
(Minneapolis, MN)
Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 21:19 

and again from Neko Case to DMB... i'm definitely not complaining, but this song makes me want to abandon all schoolwork and smoke a cigarette in a dimly lit club. love it
realsleep
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:25 

What a deflate from Neko Case.  This is from the period where Dave Matthews Band got windy, slow, cumbersome, and boring.  They sound like they are just jamming, and that is not usually a good thing.   Bands sitting around jamming might be greatly entertaining to themselves (I can see them smiling and laughing at someone finding a nice new improved riff) but to the audience, it is like being left out of some really great in-joke that only the band can enjoy (because you had to be there all those thousands of times they were playing this to understand why such and such flute is so damn great.)  Jamming is often just an excuse to wander aimlessly in musical space without really doing anything.

This song, for example, is not particularly coherent— the mood is all over the place, the theme is sloppy, lyrically it is pretty bland, and the music doesn't flow particularly smoothly or sensically from one bit to another.

I hope this is a thoughtful enough criticism.  Sometimes it is hard to pinpoint why something stinks, but it is useful to attempt it.     


strawberryblonde
(omaha,ne)
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:21 

so good......{#Smile}


tirednotion
(Hi-Fi)
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:17 

Neko to DMB?!!?

Hell yeah, this is great! I went from slick to smooth as silk:)

Keep up the fantastic tunes, and RIP LeRoi:(...
Jamunca
(Asheville, NC)
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:16 

 sirrus wrote:
RIP LeRoi {#Cry}
 

Indeed.
oscar_driver
(Planet Earth)
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:16 

OH PLEASE, from Neko Case to DMB?? what a let down ... i went from Cool to cheesy on my office in less than 10 seconds .

OScar.
sirrus
(Fredneck, MD)
Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:15 

RIP LeRoi {#Cry}
venus_df
(Chattanooga, TN)
Posted: Jul 21, 2008 - 17:04 

a very special song for my hubby and i. lots of fond memories here. ^_^

also, i think this is one of the best-written songs of the 90s. as someone said earlier, DMB has stumbled (particularly of late) but their early work was extremely creative and solid. i love this album.
pdjpirate
(Near the Graveyard of the Atlantic!)
Posted: Jul 21, 2008 - 16:26 

auburntigerrich wrote:


To Hortsman...Well that may be, in your eyes, but can you give us a reason? Intelligent rebuttal, please.

See, this is why I don't participate in message boards anymore... I think I lose five minutes off my life span with each ill-conceived comment.

Auburn Tiger, not to worry, you're not out on the edge of the 'verse alone! And we got Dave cranked up for you!

auburntigerrich
(Edge of the 'Verse)
Posted: May 19, 2008 - 17:54 

horstman wrote:


Yeah, it's because it's Dave Matthews. Are you happy now. The guy sucks. His music sucks.


Well that may be, in your eyes, but can you give us a reason?

Intelligent rebuttal, please.

See, this is why I don't participate in message boards anymore... I think I lose five minutes off my life span with each ill-conceived comment.

auburntigerrich
(Edge of the 'Verse)
Posted: May 19, 2008 - 17:52 

leathepea wrote:


I have just taken the position that I like DMB, and don't care what everyone says. They are cool in my book.


Cheers to you, my friend.
horstman
(Syracuse, New York)
Posted: May 19, 2008 - 17:51 

djblitz wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes this song so bad? Is it BECAUSE it's Dave Matthews that you cannot differentiate a good song from a bad one or what?

I'm baffled.....this song is so pretty.


Yeah, it's because it's Dave Matthews. Are you happy now. The guy sucks. His music sucks.

It didn't always suck. His first two albums were great. I used to listen to him all the time. But then something went wrong. He sucked.

And still does. But Bill has to play some shitty music and here it is !

There. You asked.

As my old boss would say "Are you happy now?"
auburntigerrich
(Edge of the 'Verse)
Posted: May 19, 2008 - 17:51 

My favorite album of theirs, from just before the period when they turned downhill for me.

I love this tune (LeRoi hooks me on with the flute towards the end), but every time I hear it, I remember what an old roommate said when he first heard it (the instrumental at the end): "Rich, are you watching porn over there or something?"

jjbix
(san diego)
Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 18:16 

great song
phoenix
(southern tip of the melting pot)
Posted: Feb 15, 2008 - 06:55 

...ahh, sexy.
leathepea
(Hickory, NC)
Posted: Feb 15, 2008 - 06:53 

djblitz wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes this song so bad? Is it BECAUSE it's Dave Matthews that you cannot differentiate a good song from a bad one or what?

I'm baffled.....this song is so pretty.


I have just taken the position that I like DMB, and don't care what everyone says. They are cool in my book.
djblitz
(Boston, MA)
Posted: Feb 15, 2008 - 06:50 

Can someone explain to me what makes this song so bad? Is it BECAUSE it's Dave Matthews that you cannot differentiate a good song from a bad one or what?

I'm baffled.....this song is so pretty.
cheetahwheelies
(Boston, MA)
Posted: Jan 23, 2008 - 10:24 

bmo wrote:
I'm wrong this really atrocious


Oh relax and enjoy yourself.
electronicshaman
(miskatonic)
Posted: Jan 14, 2008 - 19:36 

Great to see all you DMB haters here!

All this time I thought I was alone.

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bmo
(Canada)
Posted: Jan 14, 2008 - 19:35 

I'm wrong this really atrocious
bmo
(Canada)
Posted: Jan 14, 2008 - 19:33 

this is atrocious
Nabla
(Ver-Cork-st (Ireland))
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:51 

TJOpootertoot wrote:


Ditto!! I got into DMB right before Crash came out and got to see them just before they got all cool and hip. This album was a real mixed bag, on the other hand.

There are people who SLAM them for all sorts of reasons but they can play as good as anyone and have written some fine tunes-including this one. In the late 1990s, with all the crap music out there, here came a dude playing an acoustic guitar with a violinst in his band and a kick-ass rhythm section...they deserve respect for that.

Undoubtedly they have since stumbled but, like them or not, saying they suck is just plain incorect.


I completely agree! And if one is listening carefully and often enough, one should easily realise their great filigree.
TJOpootertoot
(Toronto)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:46 

OmegaConcern wrote:
Wow - there's some serious DMB haters out there. I was blown away when they first came out, then eventually tired of them (around the time of this album. Bought it the day it came out, listened to it once). BUT, there is definitely a degree of complexity and musicianship as well as lyrical intricacy to DMB music that you don't get with a lot of other music (even some here on RP - not that there's anything wrong with that). I still respect them, but I don't think I'll be shelling out $80 to go hang out at next summer's tour.


Ditto!! I got into DMB right before Crash came out and got to see them just before they got all cool and hip. This album was a real mixed bag, on the other hand.

There are people who SLAM them for all sorts of reasons but they can play as good as anyone and have written some fine tunes-including this one. In the late 1990s, with all the crap music out there, here came a dude playing an acoustic guitar with a violinst in his band and a kick-ass rhythm section...they deserve respect for that.

Undoubtedly they have since stumbled but, like them or not, saying they suck is just plain incorect.
peyotecoyote
(London, Ontario)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:46 

what's that ringing in my ears?
mthomaspdx
(Portland Oregon)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:44 

DMB = Dull Mindless Boring

DMB = Ditties Made Banal

DMB = Don't Mind Bashing

DMB = Dogs Made (to) Bark

Next artist please...
lah1975
(Minnesota)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:42 

Sorta like pizza music for me.
Enjoy it while you're listening to it, but it's hard to remember the experience a few days later.

It is what it is. Not life-changing...and if you're of a certain age you likely remember sitting in your dorm room thinking "music doesn't get any better than this". Fortunately I've learned, 'yes, it does'.

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Gribnif
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:42 

coffee-eyes wrote:
Only like them live.

Only like them dead.

Allright, I'd settle for just never playing again.
hippiechick
(Weekendland)
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 - 09:39 

I loved Dave during this period. Wish he hadn't gone all 12-step on everyone.
russellkanning
(Keene, NH - NHfree.com)
Posted: Nov 12, 2007 - 23:59 

I will still enjoy this song years from now.
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