helgigermany
(Germany) | | Posted: Apr 27, 2013 - 10:32 | |
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ziakut
(Slightly North of Obvlivion) | | Posted: Dec 22, 2012 - 20:12 | |
lemmoth wrote:Don't give me that sanctimonious shit - Everybody has to come to the blues their own way.
Uh... Whilst Eric, Paige, Beck and others may have indeed been born British, they sure as fuck weren't born "wealthy."
And these guys....especially Eric, have always given great credit to all the great African American artists who forged the path for them.
Most of white America would never have discovered black American blues if it wasn't for the British blues/rock players. lemmoth... Gotta read a bit more carefully dude. Never did I say any of them were 'born' wealthy. You make a good point that 'the blues' can belong to anyone who has been handed 'hard times' out of their control in any situation (financial, emotionally or physically). As to EC giving credit to the originators...yes, yes I've heard and read this many times over. Still...the irony that emanates from their performances don't hold the same effect when I know they are well off in many more ways than anyone of us can imagine. Yes, most of 'white' America may not have discovered the blues had it not been for these mainstream artists. Should we also appreciate commercials that shamefully use classic rock songs in their quest for that extra dollar? I'll betcha most people under the age of 20 would have never been exposed to some of that music had it not been used in a Nike commercial or a movie soundtrack. All in all the sun still shines and we all have our opinions whether you agree or not. Thanks for expanding on how you felt. You make a good point...but I just don't get the same vibe hearing Clapton or Petty playing the blues. |
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apd
(Toronto, On) | | Posted: Dec 22, 2012 - 20:09 | |
RoelantSiekman wrote:Question for those who know Eric Clapton better, or -as I did- seen him perform:
Is he always this apathetic towards his audience?
The show i went to see and hear was with Steve Winwood (2011) and even though he played brilliantly (I will buy his records anytime, blind) his stage presence was utterly disappointing. He may have given the public a glance but didn't say a word. No 'hi', no (obligatory) 'nice to be here' nor a 'goodbye' when the show was over.. He just sat on his stool, did the songs (with an incredibly long tedious version of Hendrix's Cross Town Traffic) and up and went away..
It seemed to me he'd had a falling out with Steve just before the show, or was sick to his stomach or just hated being there (Arnhem, Gelredome Stadium, The Netherlands).
Could well have been. Maybe it wasn't his night as well.. But now it's hard for me to block this image and the feeling of deception, and it will still take a while before I'll play one of his albums at home with pleasure.
Sounds familiar to anyone? sounds like he's been hanging out with Van Morrison. Your experience sounds typical - some friends had the same reaction when they saw him (without Steve Winwood) in Toronto. |
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KurtfromLaQuinta
(Deep in the heart of South California) | | Posted: Nov 21, 2012 - 10:59 | |
Man. These blues are giving me the blues.
Not happy music is it?
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katiediddler
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RoelantSiekman
(Rotterdam, The Netherlands) | | Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 02:02 | |
Question for those who know Eric Clapton better, or -as I did- seen him perform:
Is he always this apathetic towards his audience?
The show i went to see and hear was with Steve Winwood (2011) and even though he played brilliantly (I will buy his records anytime, blind) his stage presence was utterly disappointing. He may have given the public a glance but didn't say a word. No 'hi', no (obligatory) 'nice to be here' nor a 'goodbye' when the show was over.. He just sat on his stool, did the songs (with an incredibly long tedious version of Hendrix's Cross Town Traffic) and up and went away..
It seemed to me he'd had a falling out with Steve just before the show, or was sick to his stomach or just hated being there (Arnhem, Gelredome Stadium, The Netherlands).
Could well have been. Maybe it wasn't his night as well.. But now it's hard for me to block this image and the feeling of deception, and it will still take a while before I'll play one of his albums at home with pleasure.
Sounds familiar to anyone?
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papajoe_aiea
(Aiea, Hawaii) | | Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 01:55 | |
My favorite song on this album. Has been for decades. But so much sadness...
Duane Allman's slide is soooo missed. I read Eric's book. Then I read Pattie's. This is a sad story that IMO didn't come out well for either of them. And the closing line is just not true, as it turns out.
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daedalus
(Over your hill) | | Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 01:54 | |
michaelgmitchell wrote:Yes, I have, Derek.
Afraid I have too! |
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On_The_Beach
(The Blue Planet) | | Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 01:52 | |
Duane Allman, one of the greats, taken from us too soon. : (
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daedalus
(Over your hill) | | Posted: Jun 17, 2012 - 01:51 | |
RobN wrote:Goosebump generating material ->9
Absolutely!
Achingly great blues.. |
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RobN
(In the flatlands of East Anglia) | | Posted: May 16, 2012 - 06:59 | |
Goosebump generating material ->9
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kingart
(Brooklyn NY) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2012 - 13:38 | |
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rajron
(Albuquerque) | | Posted: Mar 13, 2012 - 22:05 | |
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PeeBee
(Down South in The Netherlands) | | Posted: Feb 11, 2012 - 03:43 | |
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5jotas
(Cadiz, Spain) | | Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 08:41 | |
Superb. Give an 18 to that guitar solo!
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michaelgmitchell
(Ontario, Canada) | | Posted: Dec 09, 2011 - 13:14 | |
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helgigermany
(Germany) | | Posted: Oct 07, 2011 - 09:02 | |
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helgigermany
(Germany) | | Posted: Sep 05, 2011 - 22:57 | |
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Sasha2001
(I can see Zabars from my window) | | Posted: Aug 05, 2011 - 13:46 | |
lemmoth wrote:Don't give me that sanctimonious shit - Everybody has to come to the blues their own way.
Uh... Whilst Eric, Paige, Beck and others may have indeed been born British, they sure as fuck weren't born "wealthy."
And these guys....especially Eric, have always given great credit to all the great African American artists who forged the path for them.
Most of white America would never have discovered black American blues if it wasn't for the British blues/rock players.
Well said. Brits growing up in the 50s and early 60s were A)struggling in a country still rebuilding after WWII and B) not allowed to hear much of the rock and roll Americans could because of BBC radio sensors. As a result, future musicians would try and get their hands on american music any way they could. Through american GIs, albums shipped to a few record stors, and pirate radio. It speaks to the dedication of people like Clapton, Beck, Richards, Townshend, Page, Harrison, etc. That blues would have such a profound influence on them, and that they would, in affect, bring the blues back in america. |
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1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California) | | Posted: Aug 05, 2011 - 13:32 | |
Freddie King has the handle on this track
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lemmoth
(NYC) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 13:29 | |
ziakut wrote:This is where it's at. Robert Johnson and the likes...etc. It's hard for me to stand 'the blues' by wealthy, british guitar holders. (Clapton).
Don't give me that sanctimonious shit - Everybody has to come to the blues their own way. Uh... Whilst Eric, Paige, Beck and others may have indeed been born British, they sure as fuck weren't born "wealthy." And these guys....especially Eric, have always given great credit to all the great African American artists who forged the path for them. Most of white America would never have discovered black American blues if it wasn't for the British blues/rock players. |
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lemmoth
(NYC) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 13:24 | |
LizK wrote:This one got Layla? Can we switch over to that?
Please turn off RP and go find your local classic rock station, thanks. |
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NickDanger
(in absentia) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 13:22 | |
If this isn't a "10" it's beyond me...
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black321
(Apogee) | | Posted: Jun 03, 2011 - 13:18 | |
Wow, Key to the Highway, and Have You Ever Loved a Woman today...pretty good, pretty good
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bluedot
(Long Beach, CA) | | Posted: May 02, 2011 - 23:47 | |
cc_rider wrote:This feels like one of the most 'authentic' blues numbers EC and Co. ever did. Very nice.
You should check out Eric's "From the Cradle" album. No Duane Allman, but Eric plays/sings the blues with this same kind of passion for the whole dang set. His best effort so far, IMO. |
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PeeBee
(Down South in The Netherlands) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 08:04 | |
Drugs or not, I love Eric's raw,dirty playing here.
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cc_rider
(Austin Texas. Y'all.) | | Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 08:03 | |
This feels like one of the most 'authentic' blues numbers EC and Co. ever did. Very nice.
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kurtster
(sometimes the statue and sometimes the pigeon) | | Posted: Feb 28, 2011 - 20:38 | |
ziggytrix wrote:
I think most folks would agree the drug abuse is a result, not a cause of the creativity and mad genius of our favorite (tortured) artists?
I mean, take your average junky and put a guitar in their hands, and I promise you, it's not gonna sound close to Page or Clapton.
Its not about junkies, its about musicians who end up on heroin along the way and what it does to them. Some survive, in fact a lot of them do. Its about the places that the buzz takes them to, really dark yet richly textured places and what they bring back when they are lucid. This whole album was pretty much a result of over indulgence of heroin during the sessions. |
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cchris_47
(jackson ms) | | Posted: Jan 28, 2011 - 14:25 | |
very very nice. what a way to end the work week!!! thanks
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Dog_Ear
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I'm here in the room at work and just keep turning up the volume...it's really loud now..a 9
What, doesn't go to . . . 11? |
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