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Posted: Jul 24, 2009 - 3:12am

chance4phun wrote:

wow...never knew this.....
"It's unclear which online music models will survive, said John Simson, executive director of SoundExchange, the nonprofit that collects royalties for recording companies and artists."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/07/23/online.music.kazaa/

who collects the interest of money collected in a nonprofit organization.....

how much money does John make....

Doesn't say but yeah. He's doing okay.

Posted: Jul 23, 2009 - 10:14pm

wow...never knew this.....
"It's unclear which online music models will survive, said John Simson, executive director of SoundExchange, the nonprofit that collects royalties for recording companies and artists."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/07/23/online.music.kazaa/

who collects the interest of money collected in a nonprofit organization.....

how much money does John make....

Posted: Jul 15, 2009 - 12:17pm

wow....and I gave up drinking and Vicodin this week so RP would come in clearer.....

Bill is this sensationalism journalism or are you going to have shell out 25k.....if so I can donate my friend's Chevelle...after I take it for a ride thru the halls of soundexchange...ok maybe the tires will have road kill on it...but I won't tell....

http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/07/14/Court_Tosses_$500_Fee_for_Music_Webcasters.htm

Posted: Jul 7, 2009 - 12:55pm

RParadise wrote:

This just in on the NY Times Web Site:

Music Labels Reach Royalty Deal With Online Stations

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/internet/08radio.html?hp

I hope this is good news.

I'm sure Bill will summarize it for us.

Posted: Jul 7, 2009 - 12:53pm

This just in on the NY Times Web Site:

Music Labels Reach Royalty Deal With Online Stations

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/internet/08radio.html?hp

I hope this is good news.

Posted: May 26, 2009 - 9:22am

New rate for music digital stream

The music collection society - PRS - have unveiled a new pricing plan it hopes may entice YouTube and Pandora back to the UK market.

From 1 July 2009, firms will have to pay 0.085p for each track streamed, down from the previous rate of 0.22p.

PRS for Music say the new plan will "enable the digital market to grow". more...

Posted: Jan 7, 2009 - 5:41am

why yes there is going to be change.....when Obama picked Biden/Clinton....I kinda knew that it would be politics as usual....
Tom Perrelli

I hope net radio stays the same

Posted: Sep 28, 2008 - 4:59pm

Tim,

It looks to me that it passed in the House....yes or no

What do you need us to do for the Senate....and when will they vote?

Posted: Sep 28, 2008 - 9:09am

chance4phun wrote:

congress passed the extension tonight...so this means bill can haggle for fees for awhile.....lets hope in the next session this can be a done deal......

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10052966-93.html

Bummer!

Hi, it's Tim from Pandora;

After a yearlong negotiation, Pandora, SoundExchange and the RIAA are finally optimistic about reaching an agreement on royalties that would save Pandora and Internet radio. But just as we've gotten close, large traditional broadcast radio companies have launched a covert lobbying campaign to sabotage our progress.

Yesterday, Congressman Jay Inslee, and several co-sponsors, introduced legislation to give us the extra time we need but the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), which represents radio broadcasters such as Clear Channel, has begun intensively pressuring lawmakers to kill the bill. We have just days to keep this from collapsing.

This is a blatant attempt by large radio companies to suffocate the webcasting industry that is just beginning to offer an alternative to their monopoly of the airwaves.

Please call your Congressperson right now and ask them to support H.R. 7084, the Webcaster Settlement Act of 2008 - and to not capitulate to pressure from the NAB. Congress is currently working extended hours, so even calls this evening and over the weekend should get answered.

If the phone is busy, please try again until you get through. These calls really do make a difference.

Representative Gene Green: 202-225-1688Thanks so much for you ongoing support.Tim

Posted: Sep 27, 2008 - 7:05pm

congress passed the extension tonight...so this means bill can haggle for fees for awhile.....lets hope in the next session this can be a done deal......

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10052966-93.html

Posted: Sep 15, 2008 - 9:37pm

chance4phun wrote:

oh well it's not like you weren't warned.....

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5676877&page=1

I thougth Obama want to get rid of special interest groups....

Gee, I thought he was gonna be different. {#Lol}

Now I'm all disappointed and disillusioned and stuff.

Posted: Sep 15, 2008 - 9:17pm

Geecheeboy wrote:

Any luck yet? I would love to see ACLU get involved with this issue.

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Posted: Sep 14, 2008 - 10:36am

oh well it's not like you weren't warned.....

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story?id=5676877&page=1

I thougth Obama want to get rid of special interest groups....

Posted: Aug 25, 2008 - 8:14am

chance4phun wrote:

oh boy.....this doesn't look good.....

Biden the Hun....

(click here)

Made your link live.

Posted: Aug 25, 2008 - 4:15am

oh boy.....this doesn't look good.....

Biden the Hun....

http://www.paidcontent.org/entry/419-dem-vp-pick-bidens-tech-policy-pro-copyright-friend-of-riaa-mpaa/

Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 2:18pm

yeah...I will be on the phone this week to my congressman..but the RIAA and Soundexchange...really need to loosen up...these people are so tight...they can fart out diamonds....you would think they would cash them in and leave the rest of us alone....I have hard time believing that by restricting net radio, music companies will increase their profits....I was at a party in manahattan and ran into two industry lawyers who really believe this....I said you have to be kidding...when napster was up, my wife and I where spending 300 a month on music...now I got research what I hear and make sure it's not RIAA sponsored...and trust I am not the only middle professional who is buying music this way....sorry for the rant...but I am sick of this...

Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 1:17pm

chance4phun wrote:

bye-bye pandora.....miss clinton's henchmen are going to use the political diversion of picking a new nothing will really change president to kill the new electronic media...boy I thought we had this beat....

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2008/08/music_biz_still_trying_to_kill.html

I thought we had this beat as well. I just sent a note to Tim Westergren, Founder of Pandora, to see if there is anything we can do. Yes, I've written the emails to Congress and called them as well as Senators....in Spring of 2007. Will that even make a difference. Is there a specific "ask" we should be requesting? And I guess I have a similar question for BillG. Is RP set in this area, or not? We could use an update. Thanks for posting the Washington Post article link to the RP community, chance4phun. It is a very well written article.

Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 10:37am

bye-bye pandora.....miss clinton's henchmen are going to use the political diversion of picking a new nothing will really change president to kill the new electronic media...boy I thought we had this beat....

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2008/08/music_biz_still_trying_to_kill.html

Posted: Jun 3, 2008 - 6:25pm

We all know of the confiscatory royalty rates demanded by the record companies, we all know of the money threat hanging over places like RP and others like it.

A caller to Rush Limbaugh's show on May 30, 2008, asked why there is no music, no parodies on the MP3 downloads you can stick on your iPod. After he said it's because his EIB Network does not have permission to podcast tunes, parody or otherwise, he says this:

"...And written lyrics, and we do not pay a license fee for that. In fact, we here at the EIB Network, I think we pay a little bit of a license fee to BMI and ASCAP, but our affiliate stations are the ones that actually have to pay for the privilege of broadcasting published music. And there has not been a deal -- well, there has been a deal struck for Internet delivery, and it's outrageously expensive. With the number of podcasts that we have and the number of users, I mean we'd have to raise the membership, the subscriber rate on the website to a level that would make no sense. These copyright people are trying to get even tougher now. Radio stations pay a license fee. It's not really much. They are now being hit with the possibility that they're going to have to start paying through the nose to play music. I don't know where it stands now, but there's a lot of controversy about it. It's a federal issue at some level. But that's the reason. I'm glad you called and asked because people think we're screwing up when we do not put any music on the podcasts, including the parodies. It's simply we don't have permission. We haven't struck a deal to pay for it, it's just outrageous. It's so outrageous the people who own the music are screwing themselves by seeing to it that their work is not exposed. So it's just the way it is.

It's like when the government runs things; when the subway ridership goes down, they raise fares. In the private sector, you lower fares, lower prices to increase volume. And these clowns on the other side of this are just doing it the wrong way. We're always looking for other ways to do it 'cause look, this is Excellence in Broadcasting Network, and as a highly trained specialist it does not satisfy me to have to send this program out podcast-wise without any of the audio in it in terms of the music because the music is a significant part of the program. So we're always working on it, but, you know, look, people that I've hired to run this thing, they are paranoid. I will admit, I've tried to sneak a couple things in that I thought were so good, "Just do it! What are the odds we're going to get caught?" "If we get caught, Rush, you don't want to deal with what will happen." "Okay, okay, okay." I've tried to sneak it by 'em, but they just will not. "Can't we just say it was a mistake; that Brian screwed up and forgot?" "No. You can't do that." "Well, what are the odds we're going to get caught?" "They're really small, but, Rush, you don't want that circumstance." These people are pretty serious about them not being compensated when their stuff is used, and I understand it, in a sense, it's just their pricing is out of control, makes no sense."

Not even the mighty Rush can escape the record companies and I agree that all they are doing is preventing their music from being heard.

Posted: May 26, 2008 - 7:51am

Beaker wrote:

On the net: Royalty Logic

Owned by the same company that owns Muzak if you dig deep enough.

NTTAWWT- Anyone is better than SoundExchange from what I've gathered.