FlatCat wrote: 

LOL but no need to apologise for your own tastes.  For me "Birdcage in your Soul", "West End Girls", are songs that exhibit an irritating nasal, lispy whine that I struggle to get past.  

I think Corgan was/is a violent minded punk and that inspired a prolific period of great creative activity in the 90s.  I love the Pumpkins and consider Siamese Dream, Mellon and Adore, to be great pieces of work, whiny voice and all.  It sort of suits, but I can understand how it could grate with some.

But then I don't like Men Without Hats.

I'm sorry, I can't get past that nasal, whiny voice. No matter how civilized the song is, he sounds like a violent-minded punk to me.

 EssexTex wrote: 
love this song as well.

So Tex, do you generally like Billy and the Pumpkins?

So good....I love a good key change

 nmcvaugh wrote: 
No.  This is the 'original' pumpkins.  James Iha, D'arcy Wretzky, Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin.

My office mate wants to know if this is the reformed smashing pumkins?

jeffhtuner wrote:

that may be true, but's why we talk about albums and not just collections of singles, no?

i luuuvvv this song... dreamy

beelzebubba wrote:

But you are really deep, aren't you?

It's just an album name, nothing more, nothing less.

thank you, thank you, thank you!

I dig this, never heard this before.

YUP YUP!!


trancefussion wrote:

Haven't heard that one in ages. Great song.

Another cry baby grunge band getting sentimental

so mellow. Love it.

BikeCoachDave wrote:

Same here.

Blends in with much of other pumpkin stuff.

Radiohead-head wrote:

I agree. Nice!!!!

WHAT A TRANSITION!!!!!!

Smiths - Bigmouth

to

Pumpkins - Obscured

BILL - you can still make me jump out of my seat and swear out-loud bro. Nice job playing great music.

This seemed like great song at the time, until we realized that all of Billy's songs were gonig to start sounding like this. It's a nice respite from the hard stuff, but stuff like this doesn't stand alone...

mrselfdestruct wrote:
There's also "...Said Sadly" with Nina Gordon, "Believe," "The Boy," and "Go".
Definitely check out his solo album "Let it Come Down" if you like his work. It's alternative country in a sense... kind of like Whiskeytown. Quite a departure from the Pumpkins, but a great album anyway.

Gish05 wrote:

He also wrote Take Me Down on MCatIF and The Bells on the 33 single. Cool low-key songs seem to be his specialty.

It's so funny how the Pumpkins are such a love/hate band. People new to their material either like the song, or don't. People that have known about them for years either love the band, or hate them. Rarely will I see an "eh, they were ok" kind of comment. By the way, The song James wrote for Pisces was "Blew Away." Blue is a b-side from Gish and one of my favorite SP songs. Obscured is an outstanding acoustic rock song.

Pisces is actually one of my favorite Pumpkin albums...James Iha actually wrote some of the tunes (Blue)...which makes the album a bit more dynamic than other pumpkins albums.....not that there's anyhting wrong with Billy Corigan.....he's still a god....but to hear something a little different from the Pumpkins is a good thing.

I never liked they guys. I thought they were pretentious, self-absorbed and not nearly as clever or deep as they thought they were.

I remember laughing on my ass when I everybody made a big deal about this new album called "Mellon-Collie and the Infinite Sadness". Yeah, real deep and clever. A name a freshman art student would come up with in a moment of juvenile inspiration.

mr.selfdestruct wrote:

I belive that was thier finest album..

Leslie wrote:
just what I was going to say!

masterhead wrote:
Smashing is too good for them. Bah!

Angelus wrote:
Just play Vienna Teng and then I will be totally sleep