mtbskisail
(41.93380° N, 73.99918° W) | | Posted: Jul 09, 2010 - 09:52 | |
Halfway into my first listen listen and I really like this!
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listen_n_sf
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At first I thought it was an acoustic version of:
Out here in the fields
I fight for my meals
I get my back into my living
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven
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socalhol
(Seattle) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2010 - 13:26 | |
This is nice — I like it much better than Elvis Costello's
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RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2010 - 13:20 | |
wbeaver wrote:Another artist whose work is sometimes overlooked and appreciated more when covered by others - but can stand on its own for those who seek it out.
Well said! |
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robin2004
(Rome, Italy) | | Posted: Jun 07, 2010 - 13:19 | |
I love this song ...in the night
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Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC) | | Posted: May 16, 2010 - 13:23 | |
sirdroseph wrote:I love this song and I really like Nick Lowe; these 2 just should not have gotten together though!  Well, he did write the song. |
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wbeaver
| | Posted: Apr 20, 2010 - 12:29 | |
Another artist whose work is sometimes overlooked and appreciated more when covered by others - but can stand on its own for those who seek it out.
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sirdroseph
(Tokyo) | | Posted: Apr 20, 2010 - 12:29 | |
I love this song and I really like Nick Lowe; these 2 just should not have gotten together though! |
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histiocytosisX
(toronto, ontario) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2010 - 19:35 | |
asteroids wrote:The selfish gene is deterministic, and I have never fell for that kind of pragmatic and easy way to see the World; such kind of answers tend to obstruct the inclusion of of better approaches and even truth when this can be found, even if the previous misconceptions are proven wrong or inaccurate. The selfish gene is a theory only (a naive one imho), and should not be taken as a fact.
Deterministic theories like this has bring to us ideas like creationism, racism or the belief that the Earth is plain and the stars are glued to the ceiling. There is not enough proof to believe that genes are responsible for the 'goodness' or 'evilness' of people, while this have an influence just like many other things, most of the anthropological and psychological research that I have seen so far in regards to human/social behaviour and social moral point out that the decisive factor here is the environment.
Ok... but talking about the song, this song pretty much hits something deep in me, because I feel the same almost every day.
wish I could find this song too, because all I can find is live versions and the clapping annoys me
found it =) Selfish gene assertion notwithstanding, regarding your second point: with a quick review of the medical literature you might be surprised to find that there is reasonable evidence to suggest that a number of genes are, in fact, associated with aggression, violence &c. Personally, I’d favour a contribution from both genetic predisposition and environmental risk factors. For a good review in a peer-reviewed journal with a relatively high IF: Viding E. On the nature and nurture of antisocial behavior and violence. Ann NY Acad Sci. 2004;1036:267-77. |
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fuh2
(salmon land) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2010 - 19:11 | |
FlatCat wrote:Read The Selfless Gene by Richard Dawkins, particularly the part on game theory, and you will understand why there can never be peace love and understanding, at least not among all people. If EVERYONE were genetically disposed to it, then as soon as one war-mongering or sneaky, thieving person was born, he/she would clean up and have lots of offspring. On the other hand if everyone were nasty, they would all kill each other and make way for people who were prone to peace, love and understanding. So there will always be a balance between the two types. That's why, oh best beloved, there are both democrats and republicans...
Still, nice dreams, and it doesn't mean we can stop working toward them. But I find Dawkins helpful in understanding what's going on.
Maybe societies need both types of people. The peacemakers, nurturers, story-tellers like farmers, nurses, doctors, artists, scientists etc, and unfortunately also the protectors like police, soldiers, butchers etc. Does Dawkins go into that angle? |
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fuh2
(salmon land) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2010 - 19:02 | |
According to Palin-theory, this song is downright un-American!
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apd
(Toronto, On) | | Posted: Apr 14, 2010 - 19:00 | |
mfcrowe wrote:I have searched for this version of the song - can anyone tell me where I can find it? please?  message me |
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asteroids
| | Posted: Mar 14, 2010 - 05:42 | |
The selfish gene is deterministic, and I have never fell for that kind of pragmatic and easy way to see the World; such kind of answers tend to obstruct the inclusion of of better approaches and even truth when this can be found, even if the previous misconceptions are proven wrong or inaccurate. The selfish gene is a theory only (a naive one imho), and should not be taken as a fact.
Deterministic theories like this has bring to us ideas like creationism, racism or the belief that the Earth is plain and the stars are glued to the ceiling. There is not enough proof to believe that genes are responsible for the 'goodness' or 'evilness' of people, while this have an influence just like many other things, most of the anthropological and psychological research that I have seen so far in regards to human/social behaviour and social moral point out that the decisive factor here is the environment.
Ok... but talking about the song, this song pretty much hits something deep in me, because I feel the same almost every day.
wish I could find this song too, because all I can find is live versions and the clapping annoys me
found it =)
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Giselle62
(California's Cental Coast) | | Posted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:34 | |
FlatCat wrote:Read The Selfless Gene by Richard Dawkins, particularly the part on game theory, and you will understand why there can never be peace love and understanding, at least not among all people. If EVERYONE were genetically disposed to it, then as soon as one war-mongering or sneaky, thieving person was born, he/she would clean up and have lots of offspring. On the other hand if everyone were nasty, they would all kill each other and make way for people who were prone to peace, love and understanding. So there will always be a balance between the two types. That's why, oh best beloved, there are both democrats and republicans...
Still, nice dreams, and it doesn't mean we can stop working toward them. But I find Dawkins helpful in understanding what's going on.
Yes—-I always wondered what purpose "gentle people" served; that's an interesting theory. I'll have to read the book before I talk more about it. It was interesting reading about bonobo apes and how the females control the food distribution even though the males are physically more powerful, and yes, it has something to do with their attitude about sex as well as food distribution. It's like we say: "I'm a lover not a fighter;" they are lovers not fighters. And if gentle people are gentle yet strong in their conviction they can sway their society or tribe for a time by showing examples of how to to change the world without using violence. |
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mfcrowe
(Chicago,, IL) | | Posted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:18 | |
I have searched for this version of the song - can anyone tell me where I can find it? please? |
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hugoallen
(Brentford, UK) | | Posted: Feb 16, 2010 - 08:12 | |
ericconrad wrote:Great version of a great song. Another favorite Nick Lowe song of mine is his version of 'Indoor Fireworks' (another Costello/Lowe cross-covered song).
Wow, NL covered Indoor Fireworks? I had no idea. Where's it available? |
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Dgradeworkunit
(Shenandoah Valley) | | Posted: Feb 16, 2010 - 08:10 | |
I like Mr. Lowe's version of this song. It's sadness fits the lyrics - as they should.
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Dgradeworkunit
(Shenandoah Valley) | | Posted: Feb 16, 2010 - 08:08 | |
FlatCat wrote:Read The Selfless Gene by Richard Dawkins, particularly the part on game theory, and you will understand why there can never be peace love and understanding,... But I find Dawkins helpful in understanding what's going on.
Whew! That's a relief! They used to say "The Devil made me do it!" Now they say "Them ol' selfish genes made me do it!" Now taking responsibility is optional - except of course if I do, it's them genes made me do that too. It's like getting the ultimate Get Out of Jail card in a Monopoly game. SCHWEET! |
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vandal
(arriving somewhere, but not here. . .) | | Posted: Feb 16, 2010 - 08:04 | |
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sirdroseph
(Outer Mongolia) | | Posted: Feb 10, 2010 - 14:59 | |
Normally I love Nick Lowe and I also love this song, but together? Not so much. |
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papaman
(Downstate New Mexico) | | Posted: Feb 10, 2010 - 14:55 | |
johnjconn wrote:Only the king can sing this one
Elvis Presley? |
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romeotuma
(hotel in Las Vegas) | | Posted: Feb 10, 2010 - 14:54 | |
This song is soooo gooood for the ears...
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toterola
(Further) | | Posted: Jan 15, 2010 - 22:27 | |
crockydile wrote:Oh, yeah, Dawkins is rich, I'll say. Ben Stein cornered him in an interview about Intelligent Design and he admitted that one possible explanation of evolution on Earth was the seeding of the planet by Extra-terrestrials. So which kind is he?  The same Ben Stein who championed the traitor "Scooter" Libby (what kind of a name is that for a grown man?), got bounced from a gig as an opinion editor at the NYT (because he refused to quit doing commercials for a shady online agency), and blames Darwinism for the Holocaust? That's a good one. On his best day, Ben Stein couldn't carry Dr. Dawkin's lunch box, let alone "corner" him. What a laugh!   |
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nate917
(2,815 miles from home) | | Posted: Dec 31, 2009 - 13:55 | |
crockydile wrote:Oh, yeah, Dawkins is rich, I'll say. Ben Stein cornered him in an interview about Intelligent Design and he admitted that one possible explanation of evolution on Earth was the seeding of the planet by Extra-terrestrials. So which kind is he? A compromise view is that we were seeded from without, but not necessarily by ET lifeforms. Scientists recently discovered that some meteorites contain amino acids, which are essential to the formation of life. Until then, they'd assumed that the hot soup that coated the early Earth was the only possible source of the amino acids that eventually combined with other stuff to become early lifeforms. |
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johnjconn
(chicago land) | | Posted: Dec 31, 2009 - 13:48 | |
Only the king can sing this one
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okobojicat
(Dreaming of the Moravian Highlands) | | Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 12:27 | |
I'm probably among the extremely small minority, but I really dislike the Costello version, but I like this one. A lot.
And I've never heard this version ever before.
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Carl_LaFong
(south by southeast) | | Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 19:29 | |
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apd
(Toronto, On) | | Posted: Oct 13, 2009 - 15:23 | |
karljonasson wrote:This song made him rich (many years after he deserved to be so)
It was on "The Bodyguard" soundtrack. (I think it was Elvis' version?)
It helped finance his recent albums. Thus, gotta love this song.
Sadly no, it was a version by Curtis Stigers. |
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Rick_V
(New Orleans) | | Posted: Oct 13, 2009 - 15:22 | |
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cohifi
(Denver) | | Posted: Aug 27, 2009 - 17:32 | |
ericconrad wrote:Great version of a great song. Another favorite Nick Lowe song of mine is his version of 'Indoor Fireworks' (another Costello/Lowe cross-covered song).
Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out. I had never heard Nick's version before. The 70's needed the Elvis version I guess. They couldn't have handled this one at the time. Another example of why this is the only streaming radio I listen to. |
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