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ScottFromWyoming  (Powell)
Mar 28, 2012 - 7:43pm

Alexandra wrote:

It's not that they're immune or anything, it's just that there are SO many more PC users that they're more practical targets for which to write virus code. It's not worth their time to write more sophisticated code for more sophisticated systems (like Macs), so they usually don't.


Mm. The same simplistic theory put forth by PC mechanics for decades.

I'm not one to tout Apple's "immunity" but there's more to it than just sheer numbers. Which are probably about 7 or 8%.

 
Red_Dragon  (Redneck Nation)
Mar 28, 2012 - 7:32pm

Alexandra wrote:

It's not that they're immune or anything, it's just that there are SO many more PC users that they're more practical targets for which to write virus code. It's not worth their time to write more sophisticated code for more sophisticated systems (like Macs), so they usually don't.


Mac is still only what, 4% of the market?

 
Alexandra  (PNW)
Mar 28, 2012 - 7:27pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Spill!


It's not that they're immune or anything, it's just that there are SO many more PC users that they're more practical targets for which to write virus code. It's not worth their time to write more sophisticated code for more sophisticated systems (like Macs), so they usually don't.

 
ScottFromWyoming  (Powell)
Mar 28, 2012 - 7:21pm

Alexandra wrote:
Laptop is all cleaned up, tuned up, and armed & dangerous for the future.

Got a REALLY good local computer guru watchin' my back now.



But man......who would've thought just watching a YouTube video could be so dangerous. I didn't even download anything or open any attachments. It was a poster's virus-ridden ad!



I also found out the REAL reason Macs don't get many viruses. Ha!


Spill!

 
Alexandra  (PNW)
Mar 28, 2012 - 7:09pm

Laptop is all cleaned up, tuned up, and armed & dangerous for the future.

Got a REALLY good local computer guru watchin' my back now.



But man......who would've thought just watching a YouTube video could be so dangerous. I didn't even download anything or open any attachments. It was a poster's virus-ridden ad!



I also found out the REAL reason Macs don't get many viruses. Ha!

 
DaveInVA  (In a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA)
Mar 28, 2012 - 12:55pm

I still think the worst malware out there is what comes from Microsoft under the guise of an Operating System.

 
fidget  (The dreaming spires)
Mar 28, 2012 - 12:20pm

Beaker wrote:


Love how the talk always devolves into something along the lines of my religion is better than your religion.

Sure gets old after a while.
As with any advice on this forum, it's as good as what you paid for it. Perhaps more, perhaps less.


{#Lol}

Alexandra said she was having problems, we've all been there (except those insufferable, rich, mac apologists) I didn't turn it into a religion, I just said what I had been having success with.

{#Nyah}

 
sirdroseph  (Yes)
Mar 28, 2012 - 11:23am

Beaker wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 
jagdriver  (Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Mar 28, 2012 - 11:14am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It came out of the gates that way.

If you think you have a clean system that's set up exactly how you like it, CLONE that HD to a second drive, and save your documents, music, etc to a 3rd drive.

And by the way, I still wonder how many everyday crashes/corrupt files/bugs are attributed to viruses.


Hmmmm... like failure to delete errant .TMP files on one's PC, along with all abandoned docs starting with a tilde (~) leftover from prior aborted sessions.

EDIT:

Start > Run , CMD , ENTER

...a "DOS" window appears. Type the following in that window:

CD ENTER Add a backslash after the CD
DEL /S *.TMP ~*.* ENTER

When all is said and done, simply close the CMD window.


 
ScottFromWyoming  (Powell)
Mar 28, 2012 - 11:08am

Beaker wrote:


Love how the talk always devolves into something along the lines of my religion is better than your religion.

Sure gets old after a while.
As with any advice on this forum, it's as good as what you paid for it. Perhaps more, perhaps less.


It came out of the gates that way.

If you think you have a clean system that's set up exactly how you like it, CLONE that HD to a second drive, and save your documents, music, etc to a 3rd drive.

And by the way, I still wonder how many everyday crashes/corrupt files/bugs are attributed to viruses.

 
miamizsun  ((3261.3 Miles SE of RP))
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:59am

jagdriver wrote:


And GOOD LUCK trying to ever 100% completely uninstall either POS!


norton & mcafee are evil

the free version of revo uninstaller does a very good job at scrubbing those resident demons

use the advanced setting

also folks be sure to have system restore on

can be a life saver

regards

 
fidget  (The dreaming spires)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:55am

Alexandra wrote:

Thanks, I sort of already did this about a year ago....loaded three of the best malware finders/cleaners and kept updating them.

And Sir D, I just might get Norton next time I get a computer, because so far I've come across nothing that catches and quarantines BEFORE it grabs access to my computer. At least not 100%.

Manbird.....I am not in a good financial place to buy a Mac right now. In fact, when this laptop dies (which might be sooner than I think), I'll have to just live with a desktop until my income improves.

Of course these things happen at the absolute most inconvenient and difficult times.


I used to use AVG but it became bloatware over the years. I now use Avast - much better. Also SUPERantispyware, both very reliable, no problems for about 3 years.

 
sirdroseph  (Yes)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:54am

DaveInVA wrote:

I've had better luck with Eusings Reg Cleaner. It always finds more things than CCleaner.



Before I got Norton and all my problems went away, I used to just immediately copy my data over and rebuild the operating system and if I suspected actual hard drive damage would just buy a new hard drive as well. You usually spend way to much time cleaning and finding out it is impossible to completely clean; just better to redo the whole thing and get it over with. But like I said, I have had no worries for years.

 
DaveInVA  (In a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:51am

Beaker wrote:

CCleaner's built-in reg cleaner does a respectable job in the registry.


I've had better luck with Eusings Reg Cleaner. It always finds more things than CCleaner.

 
DaveInVA  (In a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:50am

Beaker wrote:
The wisest thing a Windows user can do, beyond the obvious of having a good anti-virus package, plus something like Malwarebytes, is to keep vulnerable software on their computer system up to date. Add-ons like Java and Flash routinely are neglected when it comes to keeping the system as secure as possible. But that's a pain. More work!

Instead, use this great utility to keep an eye on the whole system. And follow its recommendations promptly. Good to go.

Secunia PSI

Oh, and Java and Flash? Yeah - any exploits deployed that an unprotected web visitor has the misfortune to run into will affect Mac computers too. Sorry to rain on that Mac-fanboi parade.


I would never claim Macs are Malware free but at this time they are not targeted near as much as PC's. I use Sophos for the Mac and it has actually caught a couple things in the 2 years I've been using it.

 
jagdriver  (Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:50am

Beaker wrote:

CCleaner's built-in reg cleaner does a respectable job in the registry.


And that's ANOTHER POS (all of 'em) to stay away from!



 
sirdroseph  (Yes)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:47am

jagdriver wrote:

I strongly recommend not installing Norton. It has become a HUGE pile of bloatware, causing far more problems than it helps solve. The same with McAfee. And AWG, once a darling a few years ago, has fallen from grace.

I'm having great success with the free Microsoft Security Essentials, believe it or not.

And if a machine is going to get infected with malware, it's certainly going to be this one I use at work! I religiously perform a complete system scan every Monday afternoon as I prepare to head home, letting the software do its thing. A simple reboot the next morning and it's back to the races.

Of course, we're also sitting behind a decent firewall—a key component to any PC security. That, and a modern, up-to-date browser that, on its own, does a fair job of sensing infected sites.



I can only go by my experience without and over 10 years of experience with Norton. Before I used to use all kinds of free virus and other adware software and had continuous problem. I finally purchased Norton and have no issues performance and certainly not any virus or adware issues either. This has been my experience spread out over numerous desktops and laptops. Also for only 90 bucks a year you get 3 licenses for 3 online devices! Not too bad pricewise either!



 
jagdriver  (Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:46am

DaveInVA wrote:

I am also convinced they give grants to malware authors to keep the flow of new stuff coming so they can make money selling you their bloatware to remove them.


Building S23.

 
DaveInVA  (In a hovel in effluent Damnville, VA)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:45am

jagdriver wrote:


And GOOD LUCK trying to ever 100% completely uninstall either POS!


I am also convinced they give grants to malware authors to keep the flow of new stuff coming so they can make money selling you their bloatware to remove them.

 
jagdriver  (Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Mar 28, 2012 - 10:42am

DaveInVA wrote:

I agree with Jagdriver about Norton and McAfee . Total bloatware, slowed everything down and they were always annoying you with ways to try and get more money from you. I used to love AVG but I use Malwarebytes instead but now use Mac exclusively.



And GOOD LUCK trying to ever 100% completely uninstall either POS!



 
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