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winter  (in exile, as always)
Jun 19, 2013 - 2:16pm

lily34 wrote:

listen, i don't RAISE them, i charge them rent. they won't leave. i blame your guinea pig.


My guinea pig has a PhD in comparative South African literature, so I would appreciate it if you refer to her as "Dr. Wilhelmina", thank you very much. At least she's making something of her life, unlike that shiftless excuse for a box tortoise of yours. I see him down at the track every day trying to bet on popcorn.

 
lily34  (GTFO)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:58am

winter wrote:

Then I don't understand why you raise all those homophobic spiders.


listen, i don't RAISE them, i charge them rent. they won't leave. i blame your guinea pig.

 
winter  (in exile, as always)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:51am

lily34 wrote:

i hate it when somebody throws a walrus at my grandma.


Then I don't understand why you raise all those homophobic spiders.

 
Beez  (Big Wills Valley)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:34am

lily34 wrote:

i hate it when somebody throws a walrus at my grandma.


F*ckahs!

 
lily34  (GTFO)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:31am

Beez wrote:

Give me back my walrus.


i hate it when somebody throws a walrus at my grandma.

 
Beez  (Big Wills Valley)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:26am

lily34 wrote:

she wants it back. give it back to her so she will STFU.


Give me back my walrus.

 
lily34  (GTFO)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:17am


she wants it back. give it back to her so she will STFU.

 
Beez  (Big Wills Valley)
Jun 19, 2013 - 11:02am

lily34 wrote:

what now, ralph? mornin.


Always something....

 
lily34  (GTFO)
Jun 19, 2013 - 8:19am

Beez wrote:
That was a very stupid thing to do.


what now, ralph? mornin.

 
Beez  (Big Wills Valley)
Jun 19, 2013 - 8:17am

That was a very stupid thing to do.

 
oldviolin  (Esse Quam Videri)
Jun 19, 2013 - 7:17am

Go Pat go!

 
lily34  (GTFO)
Jun 18, 2013 - 7:48pm

Alexandra wrote:


Oh, R....thank you so much for always having my (our) back. Especially on a day like today (for you).


you're so awesome

 
Alexandra  (PNW)
Jun 18, 2013 - 7:35pm

Coaxial wrote:

So sorry Alex. Hope it all gets resolved soon and that both your work and living situations work out as you would like.



Oh, R....thank you so much for always having my (our) back. Especially on a day like today (for you).

 
Beez  (Big Wills Valley)
Jun 18, 2013 - 12:58pm

Love, love, love this Spacehog.

 
winter  (in exile, as always)
Jun 18, 2013 - 11:00am

sirdroseph wrote:


In regards to what you were talking about, I was mainly addressing my opinion that young people today can understand more than we give them credit for. The rest of it was just general lamentation.


I figured that out, yes. :)

I think we romanticize kids too much. It's not that one generation is more with it than another, it's that they're born into a world that we have to adjust to. They learn it in their bones the same way we learned the world we grew up in. So for us it looks impressive and amazing how much they get it, but it's just the advantage of never knowing anything else, of having no old habits to unlearn.

 
sirdroseph  (Yes)
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:57am

winter wrote:

Which was in no way my point, but okay.



In regards to what you were talking about, I was mainly addressing my opinion that young people today can understand more than we give them credit for. The rest of it was just general lamentation.

 
winter  (in exile, as always)
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:37am

sirdroseph wrote:


I agree, I have met many young people of this generation who are more together than I was at that age. I think that if our society and humanity in general fails, which I think it ultimately will, it will not be because of generationally slow decay of wisdom or intelligence. It will be just because there are too many people inhabiting our planet and raping her resources. I think we will fail because technology has allowed us to replicate at a rate unhealthy for our species and anything unfortunate enough to encounter us.


Which was in no way my point, but okay.

 
sirdroseph  (Yes)
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:34am

winter wrote:

I believe they do, yes There's a lot of YA books written about dystopic futures where it's up to the teenagers to say "hey, this sh*t isn't right" and fix it. Which, if you think about it, is a pretty appealing message for people that age.

I think you underestimate what savvy media consumers kids are these days. Growing up in a media-saturated world, they've learned to tell the difference between (for example) the glossy, sanitized violence of your typical action flick and something like this or Saving Private Ryan . There's no "yeah, take that, bad guys!" music, no catch phrases, no smirking over the fallen antagonists. She doesn't suddenly develop amazing kung fu powers or abruptly go bloodlust-berserk. Katniss does what she does because she's given no choice. She uses her skills to survive in a world that's turned against her. She makes the best of the choices given to her.

I think your cynicism here is preventing you from looking deeper. The Hunger Games is no more about cheering on violence against kids (or by kids) than Nineteen Eighty-Four is about the rat helmet.


I agree, I have met many young people of this generation who are more together than I was at that age. I think that if our society and humanity in general fails, which I think it ultimately will, it will not be because of generationally slow decay of wisdom or intelligence. It will be just because there are too many people inhabiting our planet and raping her resources. I think we will fail because technology has allowed us to replicate at a rate unhealthy for our species and anything unfortunate enough to encounter us.

 
Coaxial  (543 miles west of Paradis,1491 miles east of Paradise)
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:29am

Alexandra wrote:


Me and the housemate get along GREAT. But her daughter had to move back in with her - then she asked if she could move her cat in a week later (it was living at her bf''s). The two old female cats were finally to the point where they were getting along and staying out of each other's space. Now this new (sweet) tomcat very aggressively wants to play with them and get all up in their face and come into my room and onto Ceili's cat tower — and now she's all riled up again and hissing at both cats.

And the house is just a small condo. I purposely chose it because I can really only stand living with ONE person in such a small space. And she and I get along just fine....which is the sad thing.

I also liked the fact that there was a guest room that I could use for doing massages and for my family/friends coming to visit. Now that's gone.....

*sigh*

I was asked about all the changes up front, but how could I possibly tell someone a) No, your daughter can't move in and b) No, she can't have her cat with her

See what I mean?


Oh, and my last day at my job is Friday. I put in my 2 weeks - but it's fine. It was time for a change. I'll go back to temping until another permanent one happens. And it will.
Thanks


So sorry Alex. {#Meditate} Hope it all gets resolved soon and that both your work and living situations work out as you would like. {#Good-vibes}

 
winter  (in exile, as always)
Jun 18, 2013 - 10:22am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Do you believe the 12-18 year-old set gets that message? I think it more likely they simply incorporate the violence and the acceptance of it because it fits well with all the other reinforcement they get in that direction from pretty much everything being sold to them as "entertainment" these days.

No doubt you'll disagree.


I believe they do, yes There's a lot of YA books written about dystopic futures where it's up to the teenagers to say "hey, this sh*t isn't right" and fix it. Which, if you think about it, is a pretty appealing message for people that age.

I think you underestimate what savvy media consumers kids are these days. Growing up in a media-saturated world, they've learned to tell the difference between (for example) the glossy, sanitized violence of your typical action flick and something like this or Saving Private Ryan . There's no "yeah, take that, bad guys!" music, no catch phrases, no smirking over the fallen antagonists. She doesn't suddenly develop amazing kung fu powers or abruptly go bloodlust-berserk. Katniss does what she does because she's given no choice. She uses her skills to survive in a world that's turned against her. She makes the best of the choices given to her.

I think your cynicism here is preventing you from looking deeper. The Hunger Games is no more about cheering on violence against kids (or by kids) than Nineteen Eighty-Four is about the rat helmet.


 
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