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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 - 7:11pm

 oldslabsides wrote:
back to square one...
 
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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 - 7:06pm

 RichardPrins wrote: 
back to square one...
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Posted: Nov 27, 2012 - 7:04pm

Egyptians stage mass anti-Morsi rally - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 8:31pm

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Context matters.

 



If you say so. I think all that matters in your world is what you think matters.

Should've known not to crawl out from under my rock. ((shrug))

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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 7:28pm

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So, by your postings of late...WW II is closer in your rearview?! I mean, considering that in comparison it was a long while ago and all......
 
Context matters.
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 7:26pm

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Well now, pretty cold blooded.

Diplomacy has no stature in your world.

Anarchy is obviously your answer for everything then or pure dictatorship.
 
Lots of straw men and oversimplification there, kurtster.

Genuine diplomacy has plenty of stature in my world. However, that's quite a different subject from the fact that a few Americans got killed, one which happens to be an Ambassador. Or the brouhaha that followed. Or an exaggerated sense of self-worth.

Where do I say anarchy (a distinctly anti-government ideology) or pure dictatorship (a totalitarian government) are the answer for everything?
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 7:13pm

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As far as it is now.

 
So, by your postings of late...WW II is closer in your rearview?! I mean, considering that in comparison it was a long while ago and all......
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 7:08pm

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As far as it is now.

 
Well now, pretty cold blooded.

Diplomacy has no stature in your world.

Anarchy is obviously your answer for everything then or pure dictatorship.
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 7:02pm

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Wow. That was pretty dismissive, RP. How far would the incident be in your rearview mirror if the ambassador/staff been say...Dutch, or even Canadian?!
 
As far as it is now.
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 6:58pm

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Mostly accurate if you read the rest of the article and considering the time it was posted. Still stuck on... a few Americans that got killed a while ago?

 
Wow. That was pretty dismissive, RP. How far would the incident be in your rearview mirror if the ambassador/staff been say...Dutch, or even Canadian?!
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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 6:20pm

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Posted: Sep 12, 2012 - 8:24am
RichardPrins wrote:

How an Obscure Video Sparked International Protests

The US ambassador to Libya was killed last night in an attack on the American Consulate sparked by a video mocking Mohammed, Islam’s prophet. The video itself was hardly seen at all by anyone in the United States, but a translation to Arabic posted on YouTube suddenly incited anger and violence in the Muslim community.

 
Ooops, guess this theory didn't work out very well.
 
Mostly accurate if you read the rest of the article and considering the time it was posted. Still stuck on... a few Americans that got killed a while ago?
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Posted: Sep 12, 2012 - 8:24am
RichardPrins wrote:

How an Obscure Video Sparked International Protests

The US ambassador to Libya was killed last night in an attack on the American Consulate sparked by a video mocking Mohammed, Islam’s prophet. The video itself was hardly seen at all by anyone in the United States, but a translation to Arabic posted on YouTube suddenly incited anger and violence in the Muslim community.

 
Ooops, guess this theory didn't work out very well.


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Posted: Nov 26, 2012 - 1:47pm

Cold Winds in Cairo

(...) The recent cold winds to hit Cairo and Egypt came as a shock to some. These cold winds came from the decrees of President Mohamed Morsi. He was supposed to be the protector and developer of democracy according to many. He has turned out — for many — to be quite different. He essentially grabbed the powers of the judicial, executive and the legislative branches of the baby democracy that is developing in Egypt. He stole the candy from the baby, according to many in Egypt.

Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood supporters cheered in delight. Just about everyone else felt the cold winds. They also felt that their revolution was falling prey to a manipulative, dangerous and very clever man. The person who the Brotherhood really wanted at first had the last name of Al-Shater, “the clever one”. The real clever one turns out to be the person that many called “the spare tire” — the American-educated “former” leader in the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Morsi Isa El-Ayat. The last part of his name might give some in the west pause, if they are thinking.

Egypt for now is looking more like Iran in 1979 than ever before.

The liberals and intellectuals were the original igniters and leaders of the Egyptian revolution; the Muslim Brotherhood took it from them. There were discussions about inclusivity, but as the Copts, liberals, Wafd and others left, the Constitutional and other committees made no effort to reincorporate them. There was a collective crocodile sigh and the leadership went on with the committees.

The press, other media, academics, government officials and more are being packed by members of, or loyalists to, the Muslim Brotherhood. Discussions about applying a somewhat strict version of Sharia in Egypt get more heated by the day, while the opposition apparently continues to be sidelined from the game. The extremist Salafis seem to have more voice in the new Egypt than the academics or even the experienced umdas (village leaders) in some areas.

Sectarian tensions are mounting. The recently elevate Pope of the Copts has stated publicly that he rejects the mounting power of the extremists and wants his flock to be considered full members of Egyptian society. Given that the Copts make up around 8-10 percent of the country, that makes sense.

A working democracy requires inclusivity. It needs a sort of equality supported not just voting, but other civil and social rights too. It took the United States over a century to move toward greater voting and other rights for minorities. These were hard fought battles that started with the bloodiest war in American history, the Civil War, and went on into the 1960s with the various civil rights and voting acts. This process is ongoing. (...)


Then the heat disappears
And the mirage
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Posted: Nov 3, 2012 - 1:13pm

Pharaonic princess's tomb found near Cairo, Egypt

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Posted: Sep 12, 2012 - 9:44pm

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JCF wrote:
I rec.an email from a friend the other day entitled "Being a Muslim Woman". It's quite long and to be honest very scary.The scary part is that she says,In 20 yrs there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S.to elect the president by themselves! Rest assured they will do so. You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA...Dearborn Michigan is one,and there are others.
It's happening here in Canada also,but I think it will be sooner here because we have such a wimpy freekin Govt.

Like when the Irish took over Boston with their strange foreign religion and stubbornly refused to integrate into our society! Terrifying!

So what do you suggest? Mass deportations? Forced sterilizations? Segregated camps? Will that be enough, or should we just round them up and final solution them?

For the irony-impaired: the above is an example of sarcasm. I apologize for having to add this tedious disclaimer but...criminy some people are thick. Don't try this at home. Closed course with professional typist. Objects in mirror are close to apoplexy.

  Their strange foreign religion? I'm Irish born and I never knew we had a strange foreign religion. Thanks for setting me straight. As for what do I suggest? I dont have a suggestion for you,because criminy,it sounds like you have it all figured out.Mass deportations,forced sterilizations segregated camps.What a wonderful mind you have.
 
BTW. I really don't give a rats rectum what you want to do with them. Maybe you could ask the family of the murdered Ambassador to Iran,or the families of the people killed on 9/11,or the families of the American,Canadian and British Soldiers , killed by roadside bombs and other cowardly devices.
       For the the irony impaired , the above  is an example of .........Ahhhh f*ck it, who gives shit,have a nice f*cking day ! 

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Posted: Sep 12, 2012 - 8:27am

{#Arrowd} Good article! Oy, now it's the Jews! That is not good! Any excuse to start another war in the Middle East.
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Posted: Sep 12, 2012 - 8:24am

How an Obscure Video Sparked International Protests

The US ambassador to Libya was killed last night in an attack on the American Consulate sparked by a video mocking Mohammed, Islam’s prophet. The video itself was hardly seen at all by anyone in the United States, but a translation to Arabic posted on YouTube suddenly incited anger and violence in the Muslim community.

The film—titled “Innocence of Muslims”—was produced, written and directed by a man named Sam Bacile, a real-estate developer from California. Bacile is an Israeli-American, and his film drew about $5 million in donations from Jewish donors across the country, he has said.

Few people in the United States had seen the video, but it was promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who’s penchant for burning Qurans has put him in the spotlight before. His promotion likely put the film on the radar of Islamic activists, who objected to what the New York Times calls a “buffoonish caricature of the prophet Mumammad,” who, in the film, calls a donkey “the first Muslim animal.”

Bacile is now in hiding, although he’s not ready to take back what he said in his movie. While he’s not sure who translated it into Arabic, he doesn’t blame his film for the deaths of the ambassadors. “I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good,” Bacile told NBC News. “America should do something to change it.”

But Bacile also knew the potential risks of making such a movie. Steve Klein, a consultant to Bacile on the film, had warned him. The Guardian reports:

Klein said he had vowed to help Bacile make the movie but warned him: “You’re going to be the next Theo van Gogh.” Van Gogh was a Dutch film-maker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004 after making a film that was perceived as insulting to Islam.

In protests outside the Libyan embassy, angry citizens decried Bacile’s depiction of their prophet. Some of them wore Guy Fawkes masks, while others held signs saying “Worshippers of the Cross, leave the Prophet Muhammad alone.” Protestors also climbed the walls of the American embassy in Egypt and seized an American flag. They were continuing to protest Wednesday morning. The New York Times reports:

Zeinobia also reported that confusion about the origins of the film was so general that one group of fundamentalist Muslims was “calling for another huge protest at the embassy of Netherlands, demanding its closure because the Dutch government is producing an insult film against Islam.” Dutch diplomats responded with a statement denying these claims, she noted.

While the Koran does not spell out a prohibition against depicting Mohammed, some Islamic traditions forbid it.


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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 11:43pm

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For the irony-impaired: the above is an example of sarcasm. I apologize for having to add this tedious disclaimer but...criminy some people are thick. Don't try this at home. Closed course with professional typist. Objects in mirror are close to apoplexy.

 


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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 10:32pm

snopes.com: Joys of Muslim Women - Nonie Darwish

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Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 10:26pm

JCF wrote:
I rec.an email from a friend the other day entitled "Being a Muslim Woman". It's quite long and to be honest very scary.The scary part is that she says,In 20 yrs there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S.to elect the president by themselves! Rest assured they will do so. You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA...Dearborn Michigan is one,and there are others.
It's happening here in Canada also,but I think it will be sooner here because we have such a wimpy freekin Govt.

Like when the Irish took over Boston with their strange foreign religion and stubbornly refused to integrate into our society! Terrifying!

So what do you suggest? Mass deportations? Forced sterilizations? Segregated camps? Will that be enough, or should we just round them up and final solution them?

For the irony-impaired: the above is an example of sarcasm. I apologize for having to add this tedious disclaimer but...criminy some people are thick. Don't try this at home. Closed course with professional typist. Objects in mirror are close to apoplexy.
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