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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 12:36pm

The Dark Beer That Fueled The Founding Fathers

 

In 1774 the first Continental Congress was convening, America was starting to take shape, and one beer was all the rage in Philadelphia: Mr. Hare’s Porter. To say this beer was popular is an understatement. Many of the attendees of the Continental Congress enjoyed a pint or two of the porter regularly, but George Washington and John Adams were the beer’s biggest fans. Washington was such a fan that during the Revolutionary War he would regularly send for the beer to be shipped to wherever he was at the front. Washington even tried to recreate the brew himself when he retired to Mount Vernon, though he was never able to exactly copy it.

The founding fathers were craving English beer, but as they wouldn’t be caught dead supporting the Crown, Robert Hare’s porter was the perfect solution. Many of the United States’ Founding Fathers were famous for enjoying the beer — frequently — during the first and second Continental Congress, but John Adams loved the beer so much he wrote his wife Abigail about it (see the original letter here).

I drink no Cyder, but feast upon Phyladelphia Beer, and Porter. A Gentleman, one Mr. Hare, has lately set up in this City a Manufactory of Porter, as good as any that comes from London. I pray We may introduce it into the Massachusetts. It agrees with me, infinitely better than Punch, Wine, or Cyder, or any other Spirituous Liquor. — John Adams to his wife Abigail Adams on September 29, 1774


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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 6:43am

 Proclivities wrote:
billy

 
Just sitting around with the Carter clan eating goober peas and drinking that swill.
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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 6:39am

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Posted: Jun 26, 2015 - 6:07am

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"In France this wine would be imported"

 
In Soviet Russia, beer imports you.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 3:23pm

So, I just drank an American IPA called 867-5309.  From Evil Genius Beer Company. Really nice, with lots of Citra, or similar,  hops. 
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 1:59pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
So by moving the brewing/bottling to Canada, the Guinness sold in the US can say IMPORTED and not get sued.

 
"In France this wine would be imported"
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:44am

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http://linie.com/  

Always with the judging... 

 
  • Aftertaste: A well-composed aftertaste of spic
    es and sherry lingers for a few minutes.
My aunt just brought a little bottle of aquavit from up by you sort of



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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:40am

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looks interesting, never tried an aquavit (much less matured at sea)

and a great website

 
It is a cool site. I've never cared for aquavit very much - I had it in Copenhagen, and have had a few Scandinavian friends over the years who had brought some from "the old country".  It's pretty harsh and only seems palatable to me if it's been stored in a freezer.  I like the taste of caraway seeds in rye bread and sauerkraut, but not in a liquor.  It's better than ouzo though.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:35am

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http://linie.com/  

Always with the judging... 

 
looks interesting, never tried an aquavit (much less matured at sea)

and a great website
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:16am

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yep and beer tastes better when it crosses imaginary lines  {#Wink}  {#Cheers}

 
http://linie.com/  

Always with the judging... 
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:13am

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yep and beer tastes better when it crosses imaginary lines  {#Wink}  {#Cheers}

 
Everything tastes better when it crosses imaginary lines.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 10:09am

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So by moving the brewing/bottling to Canada, the Guinness sold in the US can say IMPORTED and not get sued.
 
yep and beer tastes better when it crosses imaginary lines  {#Wink}  {#Cheers}
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 9:41am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
So by moving the brewing/bottling to Canada, the Guinness sold in the US can say IMPORTED and not get sued.

 
recalls a scene from my younger days at a bar in Denver:

Me: Killian's Red please
Bartender: $4 (this was the early 90's and $4 was notable higher than the average beer)
Me: $4?
Bartender: It's an import
Me: Where's it imported from?
Bartender: ...  < Paulse >Golden.
Me: I think we annexed them
Bartender: Don't care, it's still $4
Me: Okay, I'll have a Bass instead.
Bartender: $3.50
Me: ???? < pause > < Pay > < Turn to chuckling friend who has been watching > Guess it's because they speak English? 


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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 8:49am

So by moving the brewing/bottling to Canada, the Guinness sold in the US can say IMPORTED and not get sued.


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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 8:42am

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No, the article said they started brewing in US in 2012. 
 
Guinness brewed on Long Island?  Dont think that's accurate either.  I live on the island and never heard of that.  Looks like Extra Stout is brewed in Canada (and Draft still from Ireland) 
 
The last time I bought Beck's was a few decades before that, is what I was sayin'

 
...so you're right about them not brewing there anymore, but anyway yeah. This Long Island brewery was working until people became snobs.


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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 7:33am

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From 1982? I don't think so.
 
Guinness has breweries around the world... their commitment to fresh beer that hasn't been in transit for half a year led them to build breweries all over, including Long Island, NY. When their beer became more of an "I'm drinking an imported beer" and less of an "I like this beer," their sales in the US stopped cold. So now the Guinness Draft in cans is actually brewed in Dublin. Most of their other beers they sell here are made in L.I.N.Y. tho. But I don't think anyone sued Guinness because their beer wasn't spoiled on a boat.

 
No, the article said they started brewing in US in 2012. 
Guinness brewed on Long Island?  Dont think that's accurate either.  I live on the island and never heard of that.  Looks like Extra Stout is brewed in Canada (and Draft still from Ireland)

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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 7:21am

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Did you save the receipt for the last 12 pack of Becks?

The Wall Street Journal reports that Anheuser-Busch InBev has agreed to pay as much as $50 to any Beck's Beer drinker who can produce a receipt, $12 to customers without a receipt, as well as about $3.5 million in attorneys’ fees to settle a class action lawsuit. The lawsuit took issue with the company claiming that Beck's is an authentic German pilsner, even though it has been brewed in America since 2012.

According to the story, "The suit alleged that phrases featured on Beck’s packaging, such as 'German Quality' beer and 'Originated in Bremen, Germany,' gave consumers a false impression about where the beer was made, in violation of state consumer protection laws." A similar lawsuit has been filed against the company regarding its Kirin brand, which is not made in Japan anymore.

The Journal writes that "Beck’s isn’t the only brand to trade on its foreign roots. Red Stripe, owned by Diageo PLC, advertises itself as a 'Jamaican-style Lager'; Foster’s, made by MillerCoors LLC, sports a kangaroo in reference to its Australian heritage, and sister brand Killian’s Irish Red alludes to Ireland in its name. All say on their packaging that they are brewed in the U.S."

 
I'm not sure if I've bought any Beck's since it was no longer imported.  There are other German beers I prefer anyhow.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 7:15am

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Did you save the receipt for the last 12 pack of Becks?

 
From 1982? I don't think so.
 
Guinness has breweries around the world... their commitment to fresh beer that hasn't been in transit for half a year led them to build breweries all over, including Long Island, NY. When their beer became more of an "I'm drinking an imported beer" and less of an "I like this beer," their sales in the US stopped cold. So now the Guinness Draft in cans is actually brewed in Dublin. Most of their other beers they sell here are made in L.I.N.Y. tho. But I don't think anyone sued Guinness because their beer wasn't spoiled on a boat.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2015 - 6:53am

Did you save the receipt for the last 12 pack of Becks?

The Wall Street Journal reports that Anheuser-Busch InBev has agreed to pay as much as $50 to any Beck's Beer drinker who can produce a receipt, $12 to customers without a receipt, as well as about $3.5 million in attorneys’ fees to settle a class action lawsuit. The lawsuit took issue with the company claiming that Beck's is an authentic German pilsner, even though it has been brewed in America since 2012.

According to the story, "The suit alleged that phrases featured on Beck’s packaging, such as 'German Quality' beer and 'Originated in Bremen, Germany,' gave consumers a false impression about where the beer was made, in violation of state consumer protection laws." A similar lawsuit has been filed against the company regarding its Kirin brand, which is not made in Japan anymore.

The Journal writes that "Beck’s isn’t the only brand to trade on its foreign roots. Red Stripe, owned by Diageo PLC, advertises itself as a 'Jamaican-style Lager'; Foster’s, made by MillerCoors LLC, sports a kangaroo in reference to its Australian heritage, and sister brand Killian’s Irish Red alludes to Ireland in its name. All say on their packaging that they are brewed in the U.S."
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Posted: Jun 20, 2015 - 7:05pm

 n4ku wrote: 
Finally stopped by there for an hour this afternoon. Tried the Barrel Aged Velvet Elvis, which was really good. Had a couple of sips of the Belgian Quad, Good Game, which was way too sweet for me. Finished  with A Sierra Nevada Hoptimum. I really should have eaten something first.
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