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Posted: Apr 25, 2015 - 7:49pm

 Having to sit next to a space heater while watching a baseball game is just wrong.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2015 - 3:42pm

 Sean-E-Sean wrote:
Crikey. This place is swish...
 
...but you could always make me laugh out loud...
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 8:57am

 islander wrote:

That's a little different. I'd say you need to kill this behavior ASAP. Sit her down and tell her it is part of the 90 day review process (you have that right?), and you notice she is already falling behind - You want to help her but she's got to do her part. This is the early warning, pay attention.   

If she can't get it from that, I'd consider letting her go at the 90 day (or sooner if it persists at this level).  There are things that you can't tell in an interview. You are always taking a leap in hiring. But remember the mantra - Hire slowly, fire quickly. Don't be afraid to admit a mistake, but be brave enough to correct it fast. If something isn't working give them one chance to make the correction, but if you don't see serious effort on the correction pull the plug.  It's easy to get vested in someone like that -"she does everything else great". But consider the impact her tardiness could have - what if it becomes seen as an accepted thing by others, what if they start to push other limits because "hey she gets away with being late, so why cant I take an extra 15 at lunch?".  She might be worth more as an example.  

 
Thanks for the input.  Unfortunately, this is a state job and she came here from another state agency... which means that she's past the one year probationary period.  It's VERY hard to fire someone with the state.  You've almost got to punch the CEO out.  I asked the director to intervene this morning (since he's the one that set the policy).  We'll see how she does from here going forward.  Apparently from what she's said, the other agency was REALLY lax about punctuality.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 8:54am

 sirdroseph wrote:


I tell my son to achieve success in today's business world regardless of occupation from janitor to CEO, all you have to do is show up on time everyday and that simple concept is so rare and valuable that you will climb to the top of whatever occupation you are in for just doing that one simple thing.

 
I'd say that's solid advice.  I'm on time 99% of the time.  In addition to always being available, putting in the overtime where necessary and going the extra mile, I've been promoted twice in the last two years.  There are other factors involved but my director has gone as far as to vouch for me several times.  "Oh he's never late".  I hear that alot.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:54am

 buzz wrote:

Intelligence...meh...well, maybe. I don't know. I have always been naturally good at it. Even in kindergarten, my teacher could see my extraordinary abilities. I once received a report card saying "buzz can do better. He is just lazy."
 
It started some years before kindergarten though.  I remember being in the womb and not having much to do. No lights, no internet. I couldn't even count my toes. So I learned to embrace doing nothing, since there was nothing to do. This continued even after Mom evicted me from my nice, warm, comfortable spot. Through my first couple of years, not much was expected of me. Food was delivered, my clothes were changed for me, I didn't even have to get up to go to the bathroom. I just pissed and shit myself and someone would come along and clean me up. I spent every waking hour of my young life perfecting my technique. 
 
So here it is almost 60 years later and I'm still living my dream.  
 
There is much more to this story, but I'm much too lazy to type it out. I think it's time for a nap.

 
indeed
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:44am

 kurtster wrote:

and intelligence.  One must be smart to know how to pull it off ...

 
Intelligence...meh...well, maybe. I don't know. I have always been naturally good at it. Even in kindergarten, my teacher could see my extraordinary abilities. I once received a report card saying "buzz can do better. He is just lazy."
 
It started some years before kindergarten though.  I remember being in the womb and not having much to do. No lights, no internet. I couldn't even count my toes. So I learned to embrace doing nothing, since there was nothing to do. This continued even after Mom evicted me from my nice, warm, comfortable spot. Through my first couple of years, not much was expected of me. Food was delivered, my clothes were changed for me, I didn't even have to get up to go to the bathroom. I just pissed and shit myself and someone would come along and clean me up. I spent every waking hour of my young life perfecting my technique. 
 
So here it is almost 60 years later and I'm still living my dream.  
 
There is much more to this story, but I'm much too lazy to type it out. I think it's time for a nap.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:33am

 FourFortyEight wrote:

I get what you're saying and I don't promote the whole collective mentality.  I do promote the team mentality though.  I have to enforce tardiness policies across the board.  Everyone else has made the adjustments needed to be here on time.  Once they're here, it's a pretty relaxed environment to work in and when it's necessary to be late, I don't nitpick.  I let it go.  But she's been here for nearly three weeks and she's been late every day except for two days.  Once she's here, she's eager to learn and does good work.  I feel I've been patient with her need to adapt.  My patience is wearing thin though.  Punctuality is a no-brainer for 99% of the people that I work with and the people that work with me.  Why is it so hard for her to get through her head?

 
That's a little different. I'd say you need to kill this behavior ASAP. Sit her down and tell her it is part of the 90 day review process (you have that right?), and you notice she is already falling behind - You want to help her but she's got to do her part. This is the early warning, pay attention.   

If she can't get it from that, I'd consider letting her go at the 90 day (or sooner if it persists at this level).  There are things that you can't tell in an interview. You are always taking a leap in hiring. But remember the mantra - Hire slowly, fire quickly. Don't be afraid to admit a mistake, but be brave enough to correct it fast. If something isn't working give them one chance to make the correction, but if you don't see serious effort on the correction pull the plug.  It's easy to get vested in someone like that -"she does everything else great". But consider the impact her tardiness could have - what if it becomes seen as an accepted thing by others, what if they start to push other limits because "hey she gets away with being late, so why cant I take an extra 15 at lunch?".  She might be worth more as an example.  
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:31am

 FourFortyEight wrote:

I get what you're saying and I don't promote the whole collective mentality.  I do promote the team mentality though.  I have to enforce tardiness policies across the board.  Everyone else has made the adjustments needed to be here on time.  Once they're here, it's a pretty relaxed environment to work in and when it's necessary to be late, I don't nitpick.  I let it go.  But she's been here for nearly three weeks and she's been late every day except for two days.  Once she's here, she's eager to learn and does good work.  I feel I've been patient with her need to adapt.  My patience is wearing thin though.  Punctuality is a no-brainer for 99% of the people that I work with and the people that work with me.  Why is it so hard for her to get through her head?

 

I tell my son to achieve success in today's business world regardless of occupation from janitor to CEO, all you have to do is show up on time everyday and that simple concept is so rare and valuable that you will climb to the top of whatever occupation you are in for just doing that one simple thing.


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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:30am

 FourFortyEight wrote:

I get what you're saying and I don't promote the whole collective mentality.  I do promote the team mentality though.  I have to enforce tardiness policies across the board.  Everyone else has made the adjustments needed to be here on time.  Once they're here, it's a pretty relaxed environment to work in and when it's necessary to be late, I don't nitpick.  I let it go.  But she's been here for nearly three weeks and she's been late every day except for two days.  Once she's here, she's eager to learn and does good work.  I feel I've been patient with her need to adapt.  My patience is wearing thin though.  Punctuality is a no-brainer for 99% of the people that I work with and the people that work with me.  Why is it so hard for her to get through her head?

 
 
lunch hour 
 
 
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 7:24am

 islander wrote:

Not sure if this will work for you, but we have shifts and handoff responsibilities. Making their on-time performance a condition of getting their co-workers out on time git them to adhere to start times.  If they are late their peers suffer. There is more concern for the team and how they are viewed than for their individual demerits for being late.  I feel a bit odd doing it this way because it enforces the collective vs. the individual, but it works so I go with it.

 
I get what you're saying and I don't promote the whole collective mentality.  I do promote the team mentality though.  I have to enforce tardiness policies across the board.  Everyone else has made the adjustments needed to be here on time.  Once they're here, it's a pretty relaxed environment to work in and when it's necessary to be late, I don't nitpick.  I let it go.  But she's been here for nearly three weeks and she's been late every day except for two days.  Once she's here, she's eager to learn and does good work.  I feel I've been patient with her need to adapt.  My patience is wearing thin though.  Punctuality is a no-brainer for 99% of the people that I work with and the people that work with me.  Why is it so hard for her to get through her head?
islander
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 6:46am

 FourFortyEight wrote:
WTF is it about millenials?  Will NOT come to work on time.  You talk to them nicely, you explain the expectations of the director to them.  You ask them to text or call if they're going to be more than five minutes late.  Nothing.  I just don't fucking get it.  What else is a supervisor to do other than write them up?  Will they get it then? 

*frustrated*  {#Undecided}

 
Not sure if this will work for you, but we have shifts and handoff responsibilities. Making their on-time performance a condition of getting their co-workers out on time git them to adhere to start times.  If they are late their peers suffer. There is more concern for the team and how they are viewed than for their individual demerits for being late.  I feel a bit odd doing it this way because it enforces the collective vs. the individual, but it works so I go with it.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2015 - 6:40am

WTF is it about millenials?  Will NOT come to work on time.  You talk to them nicely, you explain the expectations of the director to them.  You ask them to text or call if they're going to be more than five minutes late.  Nothing.  I just don't fucking get it.  What else is a supervisor to do other than write them up?  Will they get it then? 

*frustrated*  {#Undecided}
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 11:03am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

takes a lot of discipline.

 
and intelligence.  One must be smart to know how to pull it off ...
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 10:23am

 buzz wrote:

laziness is a necessity 

Far too few recognize this important fact. {#Cool}
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 10:20am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

takes a lot of discipline.

 
So it would seem!
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 9:47am

 triskele wrote:

I've never been able to pull it off.....

 
takes a lot of discipline.
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 9:43am

 buzz wrote:

laziness is a necessity

 
Hmmm ... never looked at it that way ...

this changes everything ... 
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 9:25am

 buzz wrote:

laziness is a necessity

 
I've never been able to pull it off.....
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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 8:58am

 kurtster wrote:

Contrary to popular consensus, it is laziness, not necessity, that is the mother of invention.

 {#Good-vibes}

 
laziness is a necessity


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Posted: Apr 21, 2015 - 4:44am

 triskele wrote:
Gonna have to try harder to be lazy.

 
Contrary to popular consensus, it is laziness, not necessity, that is the mother of invention.

 {#Good-vibes}
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