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Posted: Aug 20, 2017 - 6:33pm

Mnemonic that I just came up with to remember that Charlotte Bronte wrote Jane Eyre ... Charlotte and Jane both end in "E".
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Posted: Aug 19, 2017 - 8:25am

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When I was in Uni, one of the black activists gave a speech that said (wording as best I can recall), "All white people are racist. You will always be racist."

Have to say my first thought was, "Well that's one thing I don't need to worry about, since there's nothing I can do about it. Let me know if there is something you think I should be doing and I'll consider it."

But I do think there is a valuable lesson - think about what you say or do and whether there is a bias that you might not have been aware of and whether you are going to be perceived in a way that you might not have intended. Even if that perception is due to the other person's perspective or bias, communication is a two-way street.

It is almost irrelevant to me if someone says they are not a racist even if it is not followed by an offensive statement, as is often the case. And for myself, I just want to try to live as the best person I can be and let others judge if they really feel the need to.

 
well we could substitute a few words and see this type of learned ignorance across history

if i had the opportunity i would wait for the chance to speak with this person alone (confrontation in public isn't very effective)

ask them why a few times and get to the root cause/reason

people should have good reasons to believe what they believe

a little logic and reason coming from a sincere non-threatening person can go a long way to persuading someone out of such stuff


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Posted: Aug 19, 2017 - 4:39am

 haresfur wrote:

When I was in Uni, one of the black activists gave a speech that said (wording as best I can recall), "All white people are racist. You will always be racist."

Have to say my first thought was, "Well that's one thing I don't need to worry about, since there's nothing I can do about it. Let me know if there is something you think I should be doing and I'll consider it."

But I do think there is a valuable lesson - think about what you say or do and whether there is a bias that you might not have been aware of and whether you are going to be perceived in a way that you might not have intended. Even if that perception is due to the other person's perspective or bias, communication is a two-way street.

It is almost irrelevant to me if someone says they are not a racist even if it is not followed by an offensive statement, as is often the case. And for myself, I just want to try to live as the best person I can be and let others judge if they really feel the need to.

 
This is precisely how I feel.{#Yes}
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 10:23pm

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My first reaction would have been, "All white people are racist? But you're not? Try looking up the definition of racism." I have lived in a city with an African-American majority for much of my adult life. As far as I can see, racism and prejudice exist among whites, blacks, Hispanics...just about any group you'd care to name. 

 
 
I have found this to be true. I've been treated with racist behavior more than once. I was spit on by angry people in D.C., and my cousins and I were glared at several times in Italian mountain towns, by Italian locals muttering "Stranieri." (strangers) Little did they know our grandparents came from the nearby mountain town.

Anyway, both times—after the initial outrage (thinking, they don't even KNOW me)—I couldn't help but feel it was a valuable experience in knowing what other people go through all throughout their lives. It helped me feel even more compassion, understanding, and empathy for what they endure.
 
The more I lean toward Buddhist practices these days, the more I just consider the collective One.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 10:07pm

 haresfur wrote:

When I was in Uni, one of the black activists gave a speech that said (wording as best I can recall), "All white people are racist. You will always be racist."

Have to say my first thought was, "Well that's one thing I don't need to worry about, since there's nothing I can do about it. Let me know if there is something you think I should be doing and I'll consider it."

But I do think there is a valuable lesson - think about what you say or do and whether there is a bias that you might not have been aware of and whether you are going to be perceived in a way that you might not have intended. Even if that perception is due to the other person's perspective or bias, communication is a two-way street.

It is almost irrelevant to me if someone says they are not a racist even if it is not followed by an offensive statement, as is often the case. And for myself, I just want to try to live as the best person I can be and let others judge if they really feel the need to.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with you that it's fair and wise to monitor your thoughts and actions for bias and assumption. Yes, it's a good idea to take into account how others are going to perceive you and try to consider matters from their point of you. And your life goal is a good one; personally, I have to regularly work to follow your described path and reject past biases. 

About your memory from uni...I think your thought would have been my second. My first reaction would have been, "All white people are racist? But you're not? Try looking up the definition of racism." I have lived in a city with an African-American majority for much of my adult life. As far as I can see, racism and prejudice exist among whites, blacks, Hispanics...just about any group you'd care to name. I shake my head in puzzlement here when I talk to African immigrants—Nigerians, Kenyans, Ethiopians—who tell me that they regularly encounter open hostility from African-Americans. "Why are you here? Why are you taking our jobs? Go back to Africa where you belong." 

Prejudice and bigotry often flare up when people encounter hostility, danger or difficulty. I think that prejudice in America ebbs and flows, becoming stronger during economic downturns. Trump got elected in part because he voiced anger at blacks, suspicion of a black President and a desire to rid the country of immigrants who were supposedly taking jobs from Americans. 

We all have biases about other people and groups that we don't we belong to. I don't think American society will ever be rid of such biases. One of the more disheartening things to realize about the US is that bigotry towards minorities is not on an irreversible decline. We all have to check ourselves and consider the perspectives of others. We are all going to fail at that task from time to time. 
 
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 8:26pm

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I was born in Norfolk, VA in 1959. My entire family was profoundly racist. I was named - in part - after a racist. I was raised a racist. It's just the way things were; I knew no better.

I raised my son - my only child - the same way. I regret that now; horribly. I can never take that back.

Thankfully, I got beyond my upbringing. All I can do is hope that my son does the same... eventually.


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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 8:20pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 
When I was in Uni, one of the black activists gave a speech that said (wording as best I can recall), "All white people are racist. You will always be racist."

Have to say my first thought was, "Well that's one thing I don't need to worry about, since there's nothing I can do about it. Let me know if there is something you think I should be doing and I'll consider it."

But I do think there is a valuable lesson - think about what you say or do and whether there is a bias that you might not have been aware of and whether you are going to be perceived in a way that you might not have intended. Even if that perception is due to the other person's perspective or bias, communication is a two-way street.

It is almost irrelevant to me if someone says they are not a racist even if it is not followed by an offensive statement, as is often the case. And for myself, I just want to try to live as the best person I can be and let others judge if they really feel the need to.


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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 6:45pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 

That's why my cousin showed up to support in Charlottesville (where she lives). She was ten feet away from the car. Even through her residual PTSD she says she will continue to show up at the next ones, too. She said silence is not an option for her.

 

(Her interview was in the New Yorker Monday)

 



 
And I do want to be clear, though my previous post was indeed one sided with the appearance that maybe I thought there was something wrong with protesting.  Quite the contrary, I just don't like the seemingly sudden shift from having the right to protest to persecution of those that choose not to.  Kind of like going from freedom of personal expression to facist thought oppression in Will Ferrell "that escalated quickly" style. lol  Anyhoo, the point is that everyone is different and our manifestation of our contribution to the betterment of society should be allowed to be as individual as we all are. And of course if one is so irrational as to still believe the European Colonialist racial superiority brainwashing done to justify the slave trade based upon skin color,, they are probably not going to respond to anything.  However more power to those that try and may everyone first and foremost remain safe!{#Pray}

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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 1:24pm

 Alexandra wrote:

 

That's why my cousin showed up to support in Charlottesville (where she lives). She was ten feet away from the car. Even through her residual PTSD she says she will continue to show up at the next ones, too. She said silence is not an option for her.

 

(Her interview was in the New Yorker Monday)

 



 

{#Group-hug}
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 1:18pm

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You must have misheard.  The statement is *saying* one is not a racist is not enough. Words are cheap.

 
 

That's why my cousin showed up to support in Charlottesville (where she lives). She was ten feet away from the car. Even through her residual PTSD she says she will continue to show up at the next ones, too. She said silence is not an option for her.

 

(Her interview was in the New Yorker Monday)

 


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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 1:08pm


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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 12:29pm

 maryte wrote:


You must have misheard.  The statement is *saying* one is not a racist is not enough. Words are cheap.

 




Precisely, not being a racist is not something one articulates, it is how one lives. However, the context that most people have been saying it lately is not that words are cheap, but they are suggesting that people of non color who really are not racist, that not being racist is not enough, you have to be vocal and protest in the manner that is deemed appropriate by the "resistance" and if you go about your life no matter how kind and respectful you are, then you are part of the problem. My point is that being a person of good character and treating everyone with respect is actually more important than all of the protest, yelling, screaming, chanting and sitting during the national anthem will ever be. If more people were to look deep into themselves, get themselves right and show how to be a decent human being by example of how they exist then we will affect the societal change that most of us desire in a much more productive and meaningful way. There is an important caveat though, we will never reach utopia at homo sapiens current level of evolution and there is a significant amount of the worlds population who will always choose the path of fear and hate, all we can do is live by example and hope for the best.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 12:20pm

Note to self: bumping your thumb, specifically the joint that has the metal plate on it, against the sharp edge of the storm door HURTS. 
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 11:57am

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I have been hearing a lot of people say that not being a racist is not enough. I could not disagree more, not being a racist is everything.

 

You must have misheard.  The statement is *saying* one is not a racist is not enough. Words are cheap.
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Posted: Aug 18, 2017 - 11:26am

I have been hearing a lot of people say that not being a racist is not enough. I could not disagree more, not being a racist is everything.
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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 2:33pm

Having your dog attached to you by a waist leash, at all times (to keep an eye on her digestive "issues"), severely limits one's mobility.

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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 8:34am

 Coaxial wrote:

In the town where I was born lived a man who sailed the sea...Sky of blue sea of green in our yellow submarine...Or something like that.

 
Didn't he live in a squid's vineyard or something?
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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 7:14am

 islander wrote:
Yesterday actually, but I talked with some guys who literally have a yellow submarine, might do some business with them too.

proof  (look carefully, it's being towed. The tow boat is called 'Kraken'):


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In the town where I was born lived a man who sailed the sea...Sky of blue sea of green in our yellow submarine...Or something like that.
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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 7:06am

 islander wrote:
Yesterday actually, but I talked with some guys who literally have a yellow submarine, might do some business with them too.

proof  (look carefully, it's being towed. The tow boat is called 'Kraken'):


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Do they live in it? I heard somewhere we all do.
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Posted: Aug 17, 2017 - 7:02am

Yesterday actually, but I talked with some guys who literally have a yellow submarine, might do some business with them too.

proof  (look carefully, it's being towed. The tow boat is called 'Kraken'):


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