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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 - 11:10am

 Proclivities wrote:

Yes - what Jrzy said.  Even if there is a "Buy It Now" option a lot of people wait until the last few minutes before bidding.  If you have good numbers of watchers, then it's likely you will have multiple bids, but the majority seem to want to wait until the end, which is sort of illogical anyhow.  If someone will pay no more than $50. for something, then they should just make that their maximum bid - the buyer will only pay the minimum bid.

 



thanks, have just seen the last one complete at 75% of the new purchase price which is far too high but I guess I don't need to worry!
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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 - 11:04am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
not a feedback question but as an eBay novice is there anything I can or should do to move things along? After 23 hours I've got 23 / 15 / 5 watchers on my three child's bikes I am selling. I posted these items with a fair reserve but they should go for a premium price as this is the brand of choice for any keen cyclist setting his kids up with a bike. Am I in a waiting game or is there anything I can do to trigger some of the hidden automatic bids I suspect are already on the system?

 

 JrzyTmata wrote:

the name of the ebay bid game is sniping. a lot of people watch and bid the last minute.

 
Yes - what Jrzy said.  Even if there is a "Buy It Now" option a lot of people wait until the last few minutes before bidding.  If you have good numbers of watchers, then it's likely you will have multiple bids, but the majority seem to want to wait until the end, which is sort of illogical anyhow.  If someone will pay no more than $50. for something, then they should just make that their maximum bid - the buyer will only pay the minimum bid.


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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 - 11:00am

 JrzyTmata wrote:

the name of the ebay bid game is sniping. a lot of people watch and bid the last minute.

 
Thanks jrzy, I will hold my nerve
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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 - 10:50am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
not a feedback question but as an eBay novice is there anything I can or should do to move things along? After 23 hours I've got 23 / 15 / 5 watchers on my three child's bikes I am selling. I posted these items with a fair reserve but they should go for a premium price as this is the brand of choice for any keen cyclist setting his kids up with a bike. Am I in a waiting game or is there anything I can do to trigger some of the hidden automatic bids I suspect are already on the system?

 
the name of the ebay bid game is sniping. a lot of people watch and bid the last minute.
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Posted: Aug 26, 2013 - 10:46am

not a feedback question but as an eBay novice is there anything I can or should do to move things along? After 23 hours I've got 23 / 15 / 5 watchers on my three child's bikes I am selling. I posted these items with a fair reserve but they should go for a premium price as this is the brand of choice for any keen cyclist setting his kids up with a bike. Am I in a waiting game or is there anything I can do to trigger some of the hidden automatic bids I suspect are already on the system?
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:57pm

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He can't leave you a negative so you are safe. Ebay changed the rules so only buyers can leave neg's. He can't even leave a neutral. Only a pos or nothing,

 
Bingo!!! Thanks Dave!
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:55pm

 Steve wrote:

Great point. If that's the risk, I'd rather clam up. I don't want to jeopardize my 100% positive.

 
He can't leave you a negative so you are safe. Ebay changed the rules so only buyers can leave neg's. He can't even leave a neutral. Only a pos or nothing,


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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:54pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

oops, there goes that benefit of the doubt I would have given him.
Negative and soften it with a comment that he made good on it.
expect a negative in return since you threatened him

 
Great point. If that's the risk, I'd rather clam up. I don't want to jeopardize my 100% positive.
 
edit: I just looked, and the buyer on that transaction still has 100%. Hmmm...
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:51pm

 Steve wrote:

970 total
99.7% positive
1 negative in the last 6 months - apparently he advertised an electric razor as new but out of box. Buyer said it was damaged and not useable.

 
oops, there goes that benefit of the doubt I would have given him.
Negative and soften it with a comment that he made good on it.
expect a negative in return since you threatened him
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:50pm

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I'd post a neutral as he did refund quickly but this way future bidders can be warned,

 
Of the 4 choices, that's the way I was leaning.
 
edit: but the fast refund to me means "oopsie, got caught". Fugger, {#Redface}
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:49pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

what's his feedback rating? does he have any negatives?

 
970 total
99.7% positive
1 negative in the last 6 months - apparently he advertised an electric razor as new but out of box. Buyer said it was damaged and not useable.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:42pm

 Steve wrote:
What should I do?

 
Here's the situation...

- I bought replacement parts for my razor, and the seller shipped used parts. He advertised it as brand new, open package. What I got were clearly used parts.
 
- I sent the seller a polite but direct message, calling BS on his claim of new parts, and requested a full refund. I threatened to flail him in my feedback and file a complaint with ebay.
 
- Within an hour the refund was posted to my PayPal.
 
 
Question - Do I...
 
A. Post negative feedback but soften it with the fact that he gave me a refund
B. Post neutral feedback and do as above
C. Post positive feedback with a simple 'Thanks'
D. No feedback at all

 
what's his feedback rating? does he have any negatives?
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:41pm

 Steve wrote:
What should I do?

 
Here's the situation...

- I bought replacement parts for my razor, and the seller shipped used parts. He advertised it as brand new, open package. What I got were clearly used parts.
 
- I sent the seller a polite but direct message, calling BS on his claim of new parts, and requested a full refund. I threatened to flail him in my feedback and file a complaint with ebay.
 
- Within an hour the refund was posted to my PayPal.
 
 
Question - Do I...
 
A. Post negative feedback but soften it with the fact that he gave me a refund
B. Post neutral feedback and do as above
C. Post positive feedback with a simple 'Thanks'
D. No feedback at all

 
I'd post a neutral as he did refund quickly but this way future bidders can be warned,
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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 6:38pm

What should I do?

 
Here's the situation...

- I bought replacement parts for my razor, and the seller shipped used parts. He advertised it as brand new, open package. What I got were clearly used parts.
 
- I sent the seller a polite but direct message, calling BS on his claim of new parts, and requested a full refund. I threatened to flail him in my feedback and file a complaint with ebay.
 
- Within an hour the refund was posted to my PayPal.
 
 
Question - Do I...
 
A. Post negative feedback but soften it with the fact that he gave me a refund
B. Post neutral feedback and do as above
C. Post positive feedback with a simple 'Thanks'
D. No feedback at all
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Posted: Feb 20, 2008 - 1:49pm

Sellers Boycott eBay, to Uncertain Effect
By BRANDI STEWART,Fortune
(Feb. 20) -- Monday marked the start of a week-long eBay boycott organized by sellers outraged at the auction site's recent fee and policy changes - an effort whose success will be hard to gauge until later in the week.

Third-party industry tracking sites, such as medved.net and PowerSellersUnite.com, show that live auction listings on eBay.com have dropped about 3% since the strike's Monday kickoff, from 14.5 million to around 14 million items.

But small swings in eBay's listings totals can be hard to interpret. The site's listings often fluctuate by several million items due to normal seasonality, and eBay further muddied the waters this week by running a one-day promotion last Wednesday offering highly discounted listing fees. That promotion immediately spiked the site's listings by more than 20 percent; since eBay auctions can run for up to 10 days, the special offer continues to inflate eBay's auction totals.

eBay spokesman Jose Mallabo declined to comment on third-party statistics, and said that the site's internal statistics show that the boycott "hasn't had an impact on our listings." eBay does not publicly release its listings totals

Some departing sellers say they won't return. eBay's management isn't speculating on whether the site's changes have alienated a material percentage of its merchants, and representatives say eBay has no plans to alter its planned policy changes, despite the outcry.
Industry experts such as David Steiner, president of a trade publication for online merchants called AuctionBytes, say that the real evidence of a boycott effect, if there is one, will be clearer later in the week, as last week's listings expire.

"If falls below 12 million we've made a pretty good impact," said Nancy Baughman, an eBay PowerSeller who deals antiques and co-authored "Buy It, Sell It, Make Money," a guide to doing business on eBay. "I'm hoping that it goes down below 10 million. If that happens, we will have made a huge impact."

Tomorrow will be a key day for testing eBay's listings strength: a host of fee changes take effect, lowering the insertion fee eBay charges for listing new items but raising the "final value fee" it levies on items that sell. Other controversial aspects of eBay's overhaul, including a change that bars sellers from leaving negative feedback on buyers, are slated for rollout in later months and will not be introduced Wednesday alongside the fee changes.

Some boycotting sellers have already declared victory, despite the debate over whether eBay's listing numbers have been impacted.

"My view on the whole thing is we've already been a success," said Valerie Lennert, a doll-clothing vendor in Anaheim, Calif., who has drawn attention to the strike through a YouTube video she posted three weeks ago. "I'm doing about 10 interviews a day. The goal of the strike is to get eBay's attention and we finally have it. Anything else is icing on the cake."

Protestors also point to one other small victory: Rising listings numbers on rival auction sites.

Carol B., a Kansas City, Mo., antique jewelry seller, is joining the effort to create more competition for eBay. (She asked that her last name not be used in this article.) Like other frustrated sellers, she is planning to move most of her inventory off of eBay and is testing out other auction sites.

"I'm going to try iOffer because it's very inexpensive," said Carol, who makes about $5,000 a month selling sterling silver charms.

Lennert plans to continue to promote about 10% of her merchandise on eBay while building traffic to storefronts she is creating on other sites - including, eventually, her own website.

"I don't think any sellers believe we can crush eBay in a week," Baughman said. "We want eBay to acknowledge that these changes may not be the best for smaller sellers. I want eBay to make money, but can we make some too? I think has a moral responsibility not to drive these people out the marketplace, especially considering the state of the economy."


I agree with the changes. I buy more than I sell, and have seen sellers withold feedback until you give them a positive review. They should be required to post feedback as soon as you pay... that's all they are really supposed to be rating you on: speed and payment. The only non-positive feedback I have ever received was a neutral from a seller who didn't like that I gave them a neutral. IRL retailers don't get to rate customers, why should eBay-ers? And if they didn't use it for blackmail, maybe they wouldn't be losing the right to do so. Just my worthless two cents.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2008 - 5:25am

Leslie wrote:
I think you did the right thing. I always research any negative feedback from sellers whose product I am considering bidding on.


I agree.
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 - 9:48pm

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I am in the doghouse right now because I bought something on ebay (MP3 player) that had a preloaded virus on it (look up uitxjwa.exe and vgguxso.exe if you are interested) and gave the seller a negative feedback score.

He returned the favor by doing the same to me with what I found is the same word-for-word retaliatory message he sends to all unsatisfied buyers.

Well, my wife's feedback score is less than perfect because of me and some creep got his rocks off bullying one of his thousands of buyers.

Did anyone else go through this?

FYI...don't buy from "Gameinfinity" if you are an ebayer!

Here's a link to some info on mutual withdrawl of feed back on Ebay http://pages.ebay.com/help/feedback/questions/mutual-withdrawal.html

and you might try getting some help from the Ebay trust & Safety boards but you must be signed in, the link is http://answercenter.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=2&anticache=1203313333708

Personally, I took a look at this guys feedback, being an Ebay seller myself (of 4 years with a nifty score), and though he's a biggie, with a powerful high score and a big Power Seller logo (I was once a Power seller myself) I WOULD NEVER have bought from him seeing that he has had 32 negative feedbacks in one month! And 24 neutrals! Wake up here......
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 - 8:15pm

FluorideFreeMN wrote:
Yes, they offer 2 different things:

1. mutually withdraw the feedback, but that leaves a very curious *asterisk* in your score

2. I can reply to the negative message (just below the original negative message) on the screen.

I opted for #2 because I had no intention of hiding the seller's shoddy product review to those willing to research it before buying. To this day, it still loads that virus onto unsuspecting computers!
I think you did the right thing. I always research any negative feedback from sellers whose product I am considering bidding on.
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 - 8:11pm

Yes, they offer 2 different things:

1. mutually withdraw the feedback, but that leaves a very curious *asterisk* in your score

2. I can reply to the negative message (just below the original negative message) on the screen.

I opted for #2 because I had no intention of hiding the seller's shoddy product review to those willing to research it before buying. To this day, it still loads that virus onto unsuspecting computers!
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Posted: Feb 17, 2008 - 7:58pm

I know that eBay offers intermediary services when two parties have a disagreement. At least they did a few years back. Maybe you should check it out.
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