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Posted: Sep 10, 2012 - 5:24pm

"Effective Evil" or Progressives’ Best Hope? Glen Ford vs. Michael Eric Dyson on Obama Presidency

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Posted: Sep 9, 2012 - 12:55pm

Tea party activist: DNC full of communist activity | The Raw Story {#Eyes}


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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 1:47pm

During their liveblog of the convention, Wonkette highlighted a clever comment by one of their commenters:

“DNC 2012 – Four days of not running away from liberal ideals.”

Here's why they got that impression from the convention (see the last graf in particular)


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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 7:54am

 Beaker wrote:


"Things are definitely better today than back in '08, but is this the summer of 87? Not a fucking chance. Back then, the skirts were short, the brews were cold, and everywhere you looked there was grade-A tang."

– Joe Biden addressing the Democratic National Convention

Full Story: http://onion.com/U0nmji



 

He's right that was a great summer but not as good as 84 and 85.
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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 7:43am

Or why it's a pact with the devil. Oh wait...

Cardinal Dolan uses DNC closing prayer to attack LGBT community
“Show us anew that happiness is found only in respecting the laws of nature and of nature’s God,” Dolan said in the benediction at the close of the final night of the Democratic National Convention. “Empower us with your grace so that we might resist the temptation to replace the moral law with idols of our own making, or to remake those institutions you have given us for the nurturing of life and community.”

Dolan’s reference to remaking “those institutions you have given us for the nurturing of life and community” was almost certainly an allusion to his opposition to equal marriage rights for LGBT people.

Earlier this year, the cardinal had accused Obama of undermining the “very cornerstone of society” by supporting same sex marriage. (...)

The Democratic Party chose not to include video of Dolan’s benediction on their official convention YouTube page.

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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 6:37am

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If I was ever going to be enticed by a Republican candidate these days it might have been Huntsman if he had survived the primaries. Normally I'd be chimming in about how your vote for Johnson is a vote for Romney by abstention, but I think the time is right for a viable 3rd party and that will only happen if enough people have the courage to cast their vote that way. Not sure I do yet.

 
A vote for the lessor of two evils is a vote cast in support of a system that provides no good choices.  We should be demanding more of our politicians. Fear of the "more bad" is unfounded. You may disagree with them, but they really don't want to destroy the country and eat the babies - regardless of which party you feel is "more bad".  Being on the winning side isn't everything. It feels pretty good to say "this is what I expect out of my government". I'd much rather declare what I want and not get it, than to vote against what I don't want and get 95% of it anyway.
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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 6:12am

R.E.M. orders Fox News to stop playing ‘Losing My Religion’ during DNC
“We have little or no respect for their puff adder brand of reportage,” lead singer Michael Stipe said. “Our music does not belong there.”
{#Mrgreen}

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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 2:26am

 justlistening wrote:

If I was ever going to be enticed by a Republican candidate these days it might have been Huntsman if he had survived the primaries. Normally I'd be chimming in about how your vote for Johnson is a vote for Romney by abstention, but I think the time is right for a viable 3rd party and that will only happen if enough people have the courage to cast their vote that way. Not sure I do yet.

  I am to the point to where I think it is our duty to vote for not a third party, but any party or person other than the megolithic duopoly.


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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 2:24am

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It's not?

 
The day that it is truly not and we are very close to that point, is the day our Republic falls. This doesn't bother you?
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Posted: Sep 7, 2012 - 12:24am

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Thank you Richard for giving sometimes opposing views in a substantive and informative manner.  Perhaps others here could learn from you how proper discourse is done.{#Cheers} 

You're welcome. Hyper-partisans are boring and utterly predictable, even if they regurgitate the all-too-common pap "in their own words".
Here's another view on the same incident from a different corner of the ideological spectrum. The essence of the message is remarkably similar to the earlier one:

Call re-write! The party scribes got busy, and the “mistake” was fixed faster than you can say “Haim Saban” — but there was the troublesome question of submitting it to the delegates. Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, chairing the platform committee, submitted the new plank to the delegates — who promptly voted it down in a voice vote. With ayes and nays about even, the amendment fell short of the two-thirds required for passage, but that didn’t phase machine politician and party hack Villaraigosa, who called for another vote — with the same results. Undeterred, he called for a third vote — and although the results were clearly with the nays, Villaraigosa ruled the plank had passed.

This was met with a loud chorus of boos.

The parallelism with the GOP committee vote on their rules change — which will put the kibosh on future Ron Paul-like insurgent candidacies — is all too telling. And what it tells us is this: the two state-privileged, state-subsidized “major” parties are private clubs, under the complete control of party bosses and unresponsive to the will even of their own activists. That Villaraigosa would pull something like this on national television is indicative of the deep contempt our political class has for ordinary Americans.

Diverse dialectic beats repetitive rhetoric. {#Cheesygrin}
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 10:03pm

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There are lots of names on my ballot, I'll be voting for who I feel is the best candidate. Currently Gary Johnson has my vote. 

 


If I was ever going to be enticed by a Republican candidate these days it might have been Huntsman if he had survived the primaries.

Normally I'd be chimming in about how your vote for Johnson is a vote for Romney by abstention, but I think the time is right for a viable 3rd party and that will only happen if enough people have the courage to cast their vote that way. Not sure I do yet.
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 9:34pm

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But you know, Beak, it mostly does.  Not always, and not perfectly.  But mostly.  And I'd rather have most of Obama's oration than even SOME of Romney's... 

 
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 9:05pm

 hippiechick wrote:

It's not?

 
There are lots of names on my ballot, I'll be voting for who I feel is the best candidate. Currently Gary Johnson has my vote. 
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 9:01pm

 islander wrote:

I'm not thrilled about many things about this administration, but I do like the tone of the rhetoric better. "We are all in this together" doesn't preclude individual success. And I just can't get behind most of the Republican rhetoric. 

I'm still not voting for him, but If it were a two horse race I probably would.  

 
It's not?
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:52pm

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But you know, Beak, it mostly does.  Not always, and not perfectly.  But mostly.  And I'd rather have most of Obama's oration than even SOME of Romney's... 

 
I'm not thrilled about many things about this administration, but I do like the tone of the rhetoric better. "We are all in this together" doesn't preclude individual success. And I just can't get behind most of the Republican rhetoric. 

I'm still not voting for him, but If it were a two horse race I probably would.  
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:34pm

 Beanie wrote:

But you know, Beak, iT mostly does.  Not always, and not perfectly.  But mostly.  And I'd rather have most of Obama's oration than even SOME of Romney's... 

 
I'd rather have Obama's oration than any of Romney's "best" ideas.
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:32pm

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Great orator.  So sad that his rhetoric doesn't match his actions.

 
But you know, Beak, it mostly does.  Not always, and not perfectly.  But mostly.  And I'd rather have most of Obama's oration than even SOME of Romney's... 


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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:30pm

 Beaker wrote:

Watch the vid.  It's Obama, in his own words.  Just Obama all by himself.

 
No one is perfect.  He's still a damn sight better than the alternative.


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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:28pm

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I believe, and not because I'm a mindless automaton. I believe. Four more years!

 
FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! 
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Posted: Sep 6, 2012 - 8:13pm

I believe, and not because I'm a mindless automaton. I believe. Four more years!
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