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Posted: Nov 2, 2017 - 9:07pm

N.J. police chief said black people are ‘like ISIS’ and he’d like to be ‘on the firing squad,’ feds say
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Posted: Oct 13, 2017 - 1:06pm

US police killings undercounted by half, study using Guardian data finds
Harvard study finds over half of deaths wrongly classified, in latest example of databases greatly undercounting police killings

(...) Feldman used data from the Guardian’s 2015 investigation into police killings, The Counted, and compared it with data from the National Vital Statistics System (NVSS). That dataset, which is kept by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), was found to have misclassified 55.2% of all police killings, with the errors occurring disproportionately in low-income jurisdictions.

“As with any public health outcome or exposure, the only way to understand the magnitude of the problem, and whether it is getting better or worse, requires that data be uniformly, validly, and reliably obtained throughout the US,” said Nancy Krieger, professor of social epidemiology at Harvard’s Chan School of Public Health and senior author of the study. “Our results show our country is falling short of accurately monitoring deaths due to law enforcement and work is needed to remedy this problem.” (...)


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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 - 9:58am

The Empire Comes Home
Counterinsurgency, Policing, and the Militarization of America’s Cities
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Posted: Oct 6, 2017 - 12:28pm

Miami Beach cops arrest man for Twitter parody of police spokesman
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Posted: Sep 2, 2017 - 3:36pm

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Some pretty convoluted logic about single payer care there, Kurt.

This has nothing to do with the government involvement with the health care except that you're country has some pretty strong *laws* about patient confidentiality and rights. The hospital was following written procedures based on the law. It wasn't like they were going to say, we aren't going to let the cops do this just because we don't like it. They would do that, in fact would be mandated to do that no matter who was paying the bill. And no, they can't trump law enforcement. They can't just say that they won't let the do something if the cops are following the law. In fact in this case, the only basis they had for refusing to allow the blood sample to be collected was that because they had the protection provided by the government - for both the patient and for the hospital.

Your paranoia worry about the government takeover of health care is misplaced and bizarre.

 
Thank you. This reads so much better than my response (which was barely intelligible after I deleted all the profanity).  
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Posted: Sep 2, 2017 - 11:21am

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Another good reason to keep politicians and bureaucrats from taking over health care.  The more government gets involved the more of this will happen.  Medical professionals are becoming more and more burdened with rules that get in between the provider and the patient.  Gone will be the ability of medical people to determine what can and cannot be done when it comes to the patient's welfare.  In the past, it has always trumped law enforcement in simple matters such as this, without question.  

And yes, she should sue the f*ck out of the PD and the cop should be fired.  He knew the law, same as she did.  No excuses.

 
Some pretty convoluted logic about single payer care there, Kurt.

This has nothing to do with the government involvement with the health care except that your country has some pretty strong *laws* about patient confidentiality and rights. The hospital was following written procedures based on the law. It wasn't like they were going to say, we aren't going to let the cops do this just because we don't like it. They would refuse, in fact would be mandated to refuse no matter who was paying the bill. And no, they can't trump law enforcement. They can't just say that they won't let the police do something if the cops are following the law. In fact in this case, the only basis they had for refusing to allow the blood sample to be collected was that because they had the protection provided by the government - for both the patient and for the hospital.

Your paranoia worry about the government takeover of health care is misplaced and bizarre.

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Posted: Sep 2, 2017 - 4:49am

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Another good reason to keep politicians and bureaucrats from taking over health care.  The more government gets involved the more of this will happen.  Medical professionals are becoming more and more burdened with rules that get in between the provider and the patient.  Gone will be the ability of medical people to determine what can and cannot be done when it comes to the patient's welfare.  In the past, it has always trumped law enforcement in simple matters such as this, without question.  

And yes, she should sue the f*ck out of the PD and the cop should be fired.  He knew the law, same as she did.  No excuses.


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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 10:28pm

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I hope she sues him and the police department to send a clear message that this is bs. 
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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 8:50pm

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You know why they wanted the blood, right? Victim was a reserve police officer. It was about protecting his reputation. Even though he was the victim. Blue wall, n'at.




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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 6:54pm

Utah Nurse Arrested After Refusing to Allow Cop Take Blood From Unconscious Patient



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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 3:48pm

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you'd need to clarify with your local rulers

in this case it looks like a judge hadn't issued a a warrant for that blood

i don't know where we (i mean florida) are right now but there was a huge stink about using force to draw blood at dui check points

self driving cars can't get here soon enough


 

IIRC the Supreme Court last year made such warrantless blood samplings unconstitutional: 

Supreme Court Rules Cops Need A Warrant For Blood Test After Drunk-Driving Arrest


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 ‘We Only Kill Black People,’ Police Officer Says During Traffic Stop


A police department in Georgia is firing one of its officers after he was recorded on a dashboard camera trying to convince a white woman that she had nothing to worry about during a traffic stop because she was not black.

The video, obtained by WSB Channel 2 Action News in Atlanta, shows Lt. Greg Abbott of the Cobb County Police Department standing at the side of a car during a traffic stop last year. He tells the woman, a passenger, that she could use her cellphone.

“It’s in your lap right there,” he says. She replies that she does not want to move her hands, saying she has seen “way too many videos” about how the police behave at traffic stops.

“But you’re not black,” Lieutenant Abbott replies. “Remember, we only kill black people. Yeah. We only kill black people, right?”




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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 5:03am

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So allowing those guys in the special costumes to draw blood from unconscious, non-consenting citizens is okay?

 
you'd need to clarify with your local rulers

in this case it looks like a judge hadn't issued a a warrant for that blood

i don't know where we (i mean florida) are right now but there was a huge stink about using force to draw blood at dui check points

self driving cars can't get here soon enough



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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 4:43am

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classic

the way this works is that some people give some other people special rule-making power to initiate force/violence

this violence is always for the greater good

then those rule-makers hire some other people and dress them in special costumes and arm them to the teeth

then they are commanded to follow orders regardless if the command is legitimate or not (legal ≠ legitimate)

i actually feel bad for law enforcement and their victims

not only do they (law enforcement) have to deal with actual legit bad guys (which is difficult and dangerous)

they're expected to obey obviously stupid commands regarding really bad rules

i dunno

but hey in the meantime let's keep piling on those rules!

because greater good
 
So allowing those guys in the special costumes to draw blood from unconscious, non-consenting citizens is okay?
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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 4:38am

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classic

the way this works is that some people give some other people special rule-making power to initiate force/violence

this violence is always for the greater good

then those rule-makers hire some other people and dress them in special costumes and arm them to the teeth

then they are commanded to follow orders regardless if the command is legitimate or not (legal ≠ legitimate)

i actually feel bad for law enforcement and their victims

not only do they (law enforcement) have to deal with actual legit bad guys (which is difficult and dangerous)

they're expected to obey obviously stupid commands regarding really bad rules

i dunno

but hey in the meantime let's keep piling on those rules!

because greater good

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Posted: Sep 1, 2017 - 4:07am

Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim
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Posted: Mar 14, 2017 - 1:39pm

Racial bias being a huge takeaway that has come out in the news this past week, in that black people are about seven times more likely to wrongly convicted of murder, than white Americans. Of course, you know, this isn't much of a spoiler alert; I think we all have, kind of known this information to be true. That black people are more likely to be the targets of police misconduct. And police conduct is a huge driver of wrongful convictions that accounts for about half of the exonerations that we know of, with official misconducts being about 51% of cases.

But, you know, the issues facing the black community in the justice system, these are things that we've known for awhile, and the data just confirms it. Of course, there are harsher sentences given to black people than whites, for the same types of crimes. And, you know, for the third year in a row now, we have a record high of exonerations in the U.S.

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Posted: Feb 12, 2017 - 7:14pm

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NYC police officers tried to weasel their way out of similar incident back in '97 when they sodomized Abner Louima with a broken-off broom handle.  
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Posted: Feb 12, 2017 - 2:06pm

Paris riots escalate as police face investigation for alleged rape
Unrest in same district where previous violence sparked state of emergency
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